@Jodi,

(From post #946686)

Did you put the Jesus on the cross; if so, what did you do that put him there?

ME: Why does your response not speak to what we were directly debating about?

If the prophesy of Isaiah 53 is the words of the apostles giving the report of Jesus as savior to the people then the “our” and “we” most assuredly include the…[Read more]

@Admin,

You: Mankind has a sin problem.
Me: Explain. I would assert it’s more of an obedience problem.

You: It needed a unique solution besides letting our souls die.
Me: So repenting, turning from wickedness, and God forgetting the sin isn’t good enough? What other possible “solution” could be required?

You: God loved us, and didn’t want us…[Read more]

@Jodi,

In reference to post #946652

Did you put the Jesus on the cross; if so, what did you do that put him there?

@Proclaimer,

You: God is not a man. He is also not an angel. He doesn’t have a body. He is an eternal spirit.

Me: Can I say DUH!! I have never once stated the contrary. What I have said is God loves HIS creation; why doesn’t christianity understand that? I have never claimed to know or understand why good and bad things happen in the world, t…[Read more]

@Admin,

You: You lack understanding, God doesn’t put his full plan in the Old Testament. Rather, he reveals parts of his plan at the right time / season.

Me: It isn’t me who “lacks understanding”; it’s the entirety of the christian faith that lacks understanding, as they are focused only on the NT and in general disregard the Tanakh, calling…[Read more]

@Carmel,

Didn’t read a word since you don’t know how to write in paragraph format…either learn how to properly communicate in the written format, and I will respond OR don’t, and I won’t. It’s that simple!

P.S. All capital letters means you’re yelling and is poor writing etiquette, and is extremely rude; you’re not a rude person are you?

@Jodi

@Gene,

Jodi, you accuse me of “not acknowledging that Isaiah 53 is clearly speaking of one individual”; but, you can’t tell me who is speaking where in this chapter, haven’t explained why the singular used here is any different than anywhere else in the Tanakh when God refers to Israel (the nation) as “a son”, AND you haven’t explained how…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Still waiting for an answer to where else in the Tanakh it states the Messiah was to be “born of a virgin.” If it’s important, God repeats HIMSELF. The Isaiah 7 passage isn’t Messianic, the sign IS the child being old enough to reject evil and choose good, not the birth as the writer of Matthew wants to claim. Then to say it’s dual prop…[Read more]

@Gene,

In none of what you said did you give a single passage where God said the Messiah was to be a go between so man can get to God. All you said was the Tanakh was “full of mediators.” Then said Noah, Moses, and all the prophets were “mediators.” Really!! A mediator is one who brings two parties together to settle a disagreement or varianc…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You once told me the faith you’re apart of, I looked up what the core beliefs are and looking at the “Doctrines to be Rejected” I found this; “We reject the doctrine – that Joseph was the actual father of Jesus.” Yet, you say the Jesus was artificially inseminated making Joseph the actual father of the Jesus; which is it? Please explain,…[Read more]

@Gene,

Interesting response, I mentioned nothing about “worship”; apparently you have questioned whether or nor not you should be worshiping the Jesus since it was your immediate response to my idolatry statement. I was referring to the Jesus being a “mediator” between God and man (did you catch the “between”) and the “only way to the Father is…[Read more]

@Gene,

You are free to believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me; but, can you prove the Jesus is the “root and offspring” of David and Solomon with the Tanakh? Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah (link 946290 when and how will the Jesus accomplish what is listed)?

Again, Luke traces the Jesus’ lineage thru David’s son Nat…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Me: Are you saying the spirit took sperm from Joseph and planted it into Mary thru artificial insemination? Can you back that up with evidence? It sounds more like speculation and justification than a truth; in all my years in the church I have never heard this scenario.

You: I can understand that this is something you’ve not heard of…[Read more]

@Jodi,

I know I have posted the Jeremiah passage before, but let’s do it again and see if we can clear up some confusion.

30 Thus says Yahweh: “Record this man as childless, a man who will not succeed in his days, for no man from his offspring will succeed him, sitting on the throne of David and ruling again in Judah.”

No where in the passa…[Read more]

@Jodi

You: It is NOT the Spirit that Fathered Jesus, it is the Spirit by it’s power that impregnated Mary with a biological son of Joseph.

Me: Are you saying the spirit took sperm from Joseph and planted it into Mary thru artificial insemination? Can you back that up with evidence? It sounds more like speculation and justification than a truth;…[Read more]

@Jodi,

In your post #946585 you make an unprovable claim the spirit used “in vivo” fertilization to impregnate Mary. Is there any evidence, other than speculation, to support what you said?

You also mentioned “‘almah’ is to be a virgin period”, I think you need to go back and research that again because you appear to have missed something.…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Please quote the passage where the curse from Jeremiah was lifted from Jeconiah. To use Zerubbabel as your “proof” the curse was lifted is utterly false because he never served as KING, he was appointed governor and thus was under the ruling king. God never said Jeconiah’s descendants would never succeed for HIS purpose; HE said they would…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You say in post #946575 that you “believe” God planned dual fulfillment’s; BUT, when did God say any prophecy had a “dual purpose”? I’ve never read that anywhere in the Tanakh; sounds like it was created by man to justify their religion.

@Jodi,

You: Read Matthew 1 carefully! He is specifically stating that he is giving us the genetic lineage of Jesus for the purpose to show how he is biologically a son of Abraham and David.

Me: Except Matthew states “18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came t…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Quickly covering your Luke citation, that is one BIG nope! You quote I Chron 17:11 as proof and all you’ve proven is you believe what you were told to believe. There are three passages you need to look up as they parallel each other and reveal who the “son” God is speaking of; sorry to break it to you, it’s not your Jesus – it’s Solomon.…[Read more]