DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 months, 4 weeks ago
The mental gymnastics performed to keep the lineage of Jesus from falling apart is amazing. Except Zerubbabel didn’t sit on David’s throne, he was the governor of Judah. Next!
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 months, 4 weeks ago
Me: God didn’t create laws that man wasn’t able to do, man chose not to do them and has paid the consequence for that disobedience. Read Deuteronomy Chapter 30.
You: Your above statement contradicts scripture of the OT and it preaches self-righteousness which then you make us into our own gods.
Me: There is nothing in what I said that con…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
@Danny,
You keep throwing Jesus at me like he is someone needed to get to God, what did God say? I have been told to repent, but no one can tell me of what.
Jechoniah is listed in the lineage of Jesus (Matt 1:11), a name that God said “Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, s…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
@Gene,
You: Paul say that, “LOVE” “FULFILLS ” ALL THE LAW.
Me: Gal 5:14 “For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Don’t know about you, but when I read this it says by loving your neighbor the whole law is fulfilled. As much as you want, you can’t ignore the pesky word “neighbor…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
What’s wrong with Paul? Here are a few verses of Paul and tell me you’re okay with what he says:
II Cor 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them that I might minister unto you; Paul tells the Corinthians he isn’t charging them for his “ministry” to them; he is being so gracious to the wealthier church in Corinth, but took paym…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
@Gene,
Thank you for your none answer to my questions. It was God who said Abraham obeyed HIS commands, statutes, and laws. Your failure to answer what Abraham obeyed tells me you don’t have a clue. I guess I shouldn’t expect an answer to where it states in the Tanakh following the “law” “justified” anyone either? Deut 6:24,25 “Yahweh commanded u…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
@Gene,
You: The actual word there means Gods precepts, translators inserted the word law in error.
Me: Are you saying your infallible King James (along with every other translation) has an error?!?!? Except it’s not an error (KJV has plenty of others to worry about); if you would have looked up the Hebrew of the passage the word you would have f…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months ago
@Gene,
Focus like a laser beam, when I quoted Gen 26:5 God said it was HIS “laws” Abraham obeyed. What “laws” was God saying Abraham obeyed? What commandments? What statutes? Why do you keep deflecting away from this question?
Your last few responses to my comments are a clear indicator that what you believe, you cannot fully support; as I have…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Gene,
You: show me the scripture where it say Abraham keep (kept) Gods “laws”.
Me: Gen 26:5 Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. Or is this not good enough or where you looking for Abraham to be following the Mosaic Law that was given to the people hundreds of years later? Are you saying peo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Danny,
The truth is what the truth is; the fact you are unable to accept the truth, means you are the one who hates truth. I showed you Paul is a liar and asked you to explain his words…you couldn’t, but do accept Paul’s lies as truth.
Jesus cannot be the messiah as he is NOT from the seed of David, he was conceived of the spirit.
If Deu…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Danny,
It wasn’t I didn’t understand what was written; the point was really for Gene, if he’s still paying attention, where the unknown author of Hebrews says the punishment for violating the law of Moses is severe; meaning there must still be a punishment for violating God’s laws. That’s all.
I presume you still haven’t read the link I posted…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Danny,
You obviously didn’t read this link.
Read it, verify what I said, and get back to me…should you dare.
What is precious in your quoting of Heb 10:28 is what it says concerning the “law”; “A man who disregards Moses’ law dies without compassion…” Your welcome Gene!
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Gene,
You ignored where in the Tanakh the “laws” “justified” anyone.
You ignored what made Abraham righteous as he kept God’s commandments, statutes, and laws all before they were given to the Israelite’s at Mt. Sinai. Something tells me these commands, statutes, and laws are really written on everyone’s hearts.
You ignored how the few command…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Danny,
Response to post 946037
You: Those sacrifices you are talking about were for false gods.
Me: Of course they were and God said they were detestable.
You: Shame on you for making no distinction at all.
Me: What distinction am I suppose to make? God said human sacrifice is detestable and Jesus is said to be the sacrificial lamb, the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
But pointy fingers don’t explain anything do they!
Judging by your lack of answers to the questions asked, you really don’t know what you believe or why, which is sad. How are you bringing anyone to the Jesus if you can’t answer questions asked and explain the why? You seem like the typical uneducated christian who parrots all they h…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
You’re excused!
The holy spirit was a brief section, then I moved onto the great liar of the NT because you quoted him, and the part you were suppose to focus on was after that – Isa 53:1-5. If you would have read what I wrote in its entirety you would have picked up on this portion where I painstakingly dissected verses 1-5 and asked a…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Berean,
You: It doesn’t matter if the Holy Spirit is a person or not…
Me: It does if you are looking for truth. Apparently the truth isn’t a concern for you.Thank you for your perfect none response, proving you have know idea why you believe what you believe. Remain in your slumber of religion and continue to ignore the obvious.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
@Gene,
Response to post 946034
If you have been reading my comments to others, you would know my stance on Paul. I have given references/passages showing how Paul is deceptive; yet, not a word to the contrary.
You keep bringing up the “law doesn’t justify”, where in the Tanakh does it state anyone is justified by the Law given to Moses; God s…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 1 week ago
Response to post 946020
Is the “holy spirit” a separate person of God like trinitarians believe or is “holy” just a description of God’s spirit? After all in the Tanakh “holy Spirit” is said three times and every time it’s said, “holy” is an adjective describing God’s “Spirit.” You say you don’t believe in the trinity, yet you use th…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 2 weeks ago
You: WHEN WILL YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND, THAT THE OT. IS OBSOLETE?
Me: Never!! God says his law is forever.
If the OT is obsolete, why do you continually reference it; it makes no sense. If it’s obsolete, why are you quoting Jer 31 in this diatribe of nonsense you are spewing? You quote starting in verse 31 and still have no idea w…[Read more]
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