Let's take this slow.Quote because the Kingdom of GOD is WITHIN and it wasn't in those people , BUT IT WAS IN JESUS AND THE SAINTS,–geneGene, are there any scriptures that say Jesus and the saints ARE the kingdom?(This is a yes or no question). Just a “yes” or “no” would be ok. Thankyou.

Quote David……..You can switch scripture around if you want to, But to me it makes perfect sense the way its written,Wrong. If it made perfect sense to you, then you could explain it, and answer my questions. 1. Is the kingdom of God in the hearts of the pharisees, those Jesus was addressing?(The answer is obviously “no” and hence, you…[Read more]

fact:  The word rendered “Adam” is the same word as “man.”  Because Adam was the first man, he was basically called “man” (adam)(The Hebrew word occurs as “man,” “mankind,” or “earthling man” over 560 times in the Scriptures and is applied to individuals and mankind in general…and to Adam.)Because the spirit creature who deceived Eve is the ar…[Read more]

Quote I do not believe that Satan is a super-natural being cast out of heaven.  I believe that you did a good job of showing this by the scriptures.94, I'm wondering who you think “the one called Devil and Satan” is, who was cast out of heaven, if not some “super-natural being” given that has enough power to mislead the entire earth?REVELATION…[Read more]

Quote In the Old Testament THERE IS NOT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT IDENTIFIES !tX (saw-tan') AS BEING A FALLEN ANGEL, OR A SUPERNATURAL BEING WHO IS JEALOUS OF GOD OR WANTS TO BE GOD.Dividing scripture off into “old” and “new” testaments isn't really scriptural for “all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial.” (2 tim 3:16,17)What do you make of this…[Read more]

Quote Hi David:Are you saying that the kingdom of God does not exist now?No. Quote The King is on his throne now, and those whom he has put in authority in the church are ruling with him here on earth now. We the church are his subjects.94, I'm simply saying that the kingdom of God does not exist in the hearts of the pharisees.Do you think it…[Read more]

Gene, you say;Quote Don't you know GOD is SPIRIT and you can't see Spirit can you< So If it's the Kingdom of GOD your talking about then you can't see it Gene, you made this folly before by saying God was a spirit and God is in us, therefore the kingdom of God is in us.It's the kingdom of God, not God we are speaking of.Here, you say God is a…[Read more]

Quote i know the JW's want and believe it all about a (Physical) kingdom , but changing text to meet that goal is really not right, Jesus, Plainly said the KINGDOM OF GOD< comes (NOT) with Observation , BUT IS WITHIN YOUGene, don't you feel icky by ignoring the question that shows your error?You keep saying (and this is your only argument) that…[Read more]

I just scrolled through the 366 uses of the word “kingdom” in the Bible. Whether referring to worldly kingdoms or God's kingdom, all uses involve a royal government or the people under the rule of a king.The word rendered “kingdom” in the Christian Greek Scriptures is ba·si·lei′a, meaning:“a kingdom, realm, the region or country governed by a ki…[Read more]

Quote For the KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOUYou keep quoting this Gene, but you do realize he said these words to the Pharisees and that a more accurate translation is “the kingdom of God is in your midst”?Or do you believe that the kingdom of God is in the hearts of the same pharisees Jesus condemned to Gehenna?Can you respond to this?Quote How do…[Read more]

Quote “the kingdom of GOD COMES NOT WITH OBSERVATION, but is within YOU”. Trying to change it to mean otherwise is not what it says.Gene, you took some words out. “The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you.”He says the kingdom of…[Read more]

Quote The physical (KINGDOM) you speak of will only become a reality for everyone when the Kingdom inside takes place.Completely wrong Gene. The Kingdom is coming. It is a certainty. It's not some philisophical metaphysical thing or whatever spin you want to put on it. In Daniel 2, we see actual real kingdoms that have existed. The Bible says…[Read more]

Tiffany, Hi.You say:Quote His countenance is so bright it would blind us all if we were to look at him. What he did he did once, lower himself, become human.I agree.  What he did, “he did once, lower himself, become human.”  He of course NEEDED to become a human to give his perfect human life as a “corresponding ransom.”  It was necessary.  B…[Read more]

Quote Hi…….the kingdom of GOD comes (NOT) with observation, but is With in You. All who have GOD's Spirit in them are in the Kingdom of GOD , because GOD rules in the heart and mind, of a person. Only the fruits can be seen not the source.Please don't attempt to mislead people by telling them the kingdom (governement) of God is “within” them.…[Read more]

Hi Gene and Nick. I'm having trouble figuring out which of you is the yin and which is the yang.Gene, now that I know you're a taoist, many of your previous comments make so much more sense.

Quote What of the dedicated Buddhist who will never hear about Jesus as long as he lives?Did he make the wrong choice?Is he living under a rock? Jesus fortold that in the conclusion of this world, the good news would be preached in all the nations. (Mat 24:14) What of the past, when this wasn't being preached?”God has overlooked the times of…[Read more]

The willful disobedience of the perfect man Adam, as the responsible head over Eve and as the male progenitor or life source of the human family, brought sin and death to all his offspring. (Ro 5:12, 19)It's true and interesting that Eve sinned first. She willfully did what God didn't want her to do. But we also know she was deceived into doing…[Read more]

Quote Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.–TiffanyTiffany, regarding your statement that you don't believe the anointed go to heaven, and your quote of this scripture in confirmation of it, I thought I would bring up this thread.There is no question that God's will for mankind is that they…[Read more]

Quote I too have something nice to say about the J.W. They started coming around right when we built this House now 14 years ago. They started to talk to us about the preexisting of Jesus. I did not want to have nothing to do with that. But God did not leave me in that unbelief and little by little precept upon precept I began to understand. Some…[Read more]

Quote Hi David,Are the JWs preaching the gospel or giving out Watchtower doctrines?–nickRecently, you said a pair of Witnesses came to you, as Jesus “ordered” us to “Go, therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, teaching…..”If there is some other group that has come to you and the rest of the world with the good news of the…[Read more]