Berean: Before creating the heaven and the earth on which we live, God WAS IN HIS HEAVEN, WITH HIS SON AND HIS HOLY ANGELS.

AND THEREFORE THE RAQIYA WHICH HE MADE MUCH LATER WHICH IS BETWEEN THE TWO WATERS CANNOT BE THE PLACE OF GOD’S PERSONAL DWELLING.

That’s a very good point.

Mike: Yes. When God created the raqia and named it heaven, it was the ONLY heaven. As time went by, God’s people started differentiating between the place where the clouds are (the first heaven), the raqia where the luminaries are (the second heaven – second in height, but still first in existence), and the dwelling place of God (the third and hig…

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@t8 @genebalthrop

Yes, God called the raqia heaven. But there are three heavens. (2 Corinthians 12:2)
I agree with Mike and Berean that the raqia is not the highest heaven.

@mikeboll64

Hi Mike,

Don’t waste your time and energy on Proclaimer.
It’s no use debating with a deceiver.

@t8

Proclaimer, you said to Berean: “Mike is trying to deceive you…”

Mike said:
“That right there is a very deceptive statement…”

I totally agree with Mike.

@t8

proClaimer, you are a deCeiver.
It’s not hard to C…

@t8 @genebalthrop

Hi Proclaimer and Gene,

This image will explain everything accurate:

@mikeboll64

Translation: Danny, you need to believe the laughable claims of Scientism over the Bible, your God-given common sense, and your own eyes!

And if you DON’T do that, you are childish, foolish, a simpleton, and have intellectual shortcomings.

Thanks, Mike. You hit the nail on the head.
I’m glad that you are here.

@t8

Proclaimer, it’s sad that you can’t understand simple basic things like “up” and “down”.
It beats me how you managed to pass elementary school.
If this offends you, then know this when truth offends, you need to change.

@t8

A big ball has definitely an up, down and side.
Look at these kids, they know better than most of scientists:

@t8 @genebalthrop

Hi Proclaimer and Gene,

I will give you the argument which totally destroys the globe lie.
I said it many times. Let me repeat it one last time:
The idea that people are standing, ships are sailing and planes are flying upside down on certain parts of Earth while others tilted at 90 degrees and all other impossible angles is…[Read more]

@mikeboll64

Yes sir! Eric Dubay took many of his 200 proofs from this book and another one that I can’t remember the name of right now.

The other book is “Earth Not a Globe!” by Samuel Rowbotham

Did you know they were still teaching flat earth in public schools in the 1900’s – and some countries still do? This spinning ball story has only take…

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Proclaimer, Mike and Gene,

There is a book from a guy named William Carpenter.
Title: One Hundred Proofs that the Earth is Not a Globe
From the year 1885!!

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/55387

@t8

Hi Proclaimer,

You asked Mike: So what is your view on Eric Dubay?

I only accept Eric’s ebook about the flat earth.
I distance myself from what Eric had to say about Hitler, Holocaust and
from Eric’s esoteric world view as well.

@t8

This simple meme will settle the debate.

Trust your God given common sense.