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    Berean
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    The evidence on this subject has been done LONG AGO…
    GO BACK AND READ AND DON’T BE IN DISBELIEF.

    #947192
    Berean
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    You are just a liar

    Repent ! there is still time…

    And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
    [7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
    [8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, 👉and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. (Rev.21)

    #947190
    Berean
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    A proud and haughty man is called a scorner; he acts in the fury of arrogance(Proverbs 21:24)

    Scorn comes from the proud, but vengeance lies in wait for them like a lion.

    #947187
    Berean
    Participant

    The Gospel in Creation

    by waggoner Ellet Joseph

    THE FIRST DAY — CREATION AND REDEMPTION

    “IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” 1 In this brief sentence we have the whole of the truth of the Gospel summed up. He who reads aright may derive a world of comfort from it.

    In the first place, let us consider who it was that created the heaven and the earth. “God created.” But Christ is God, the brightness of the Father’s glory, and the express image of His person. 2 He Himself said, “I and My Father are one.” 3 He it was who, representing the Father, created the heaven and the earth. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made.” 1 And again we read of Christ, that “by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him: and He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.”

    The Father Himself addresses the Son as God and as Creator. The first chapter of Hebrews says that God has not at any time said to any of the angels, “Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee.” “But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of Thy kingdom.” And He has also said to the Son, “Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of Thine hands.” 3 So we are well assured that when we read in the first chapter of Genesis, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,” it refers to God in Christ.

    Creative power is the distinguishing mark of Divinity. The Spirit of the Lord, through the prophet Jeremiah, describes the vanity of idols, and then continues, “But the Lord is the true God, He is the living God, and an everlasting King: at His wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide His indignation. Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He hath made the earth by His power, He hath established the world by His wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by His discretion.” 1 The earth was made by His power, and established by His Wisdom. But Christ is “the power of God, and the wisdom of God.” So here again we find Christ inseparably connected with creation as the Creator. Only as we acknowledge and worship Christ as the Creator do we acknowledge His Divinity.

    Christ is Redeemer by virtue of His power as Creator. We read that “we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins,” because that “by Him were all things created.” 2 If He were not Creator, He could not be Redeemer.

    This means simply that redemptive power and creative power are the same. To redeem is to create. This is shown in the statement of the apostle that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation; which statement is immediately followed by another to the effect that the power of God is seen by means of the things that have been made. 1 When we consider the works of creation, and think of the power manifested in them, we are contemplating the power of redemption.

    There has been a great deal of idle speculation as to which is the greater, redemption or creation. Many have thought that redemption is a greater work than creation. Such speculation is idle, because only infinite power could perform either work, and infinite power cannot be measured by human minds. But while we cannot measure the power, we can easily settle the question of which is the greater, because the Scriptures give us the information. Neither is greater than the other, for both are the same. Redemption is creation. Redemption is the same power that was put forth in the beginning to create the world and all that is in it, now put forth to save men and the earth from the curse of sin.

    The Scriptures are very clear on this point. The Psalmist prayed, “Create in me a clean heart, and renew a right spirit within me.” 1 The apostle says, that “if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature,” 2 or a new creation. And again we read, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained, that we should walk in them.”

    Compared with God, man is “less than nothing, and vanity.” 4 In him “dwelleth no good thing.” 5 Now the same power that in the beginning made the earth from nothing, takes man, if he is willing, and makes of him that which is “to the praise of the glory of His grace.

    to be continued

    God bless

     

     

    #947186
    Berean
    Participant

    Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
    [9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
    [10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    👇
    [11] 👉For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and👉 rested the seventh day: wherefore 👉the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.👈

    #947184
    Berean
    Participant

    DOES THE CULT OF MARY DISHONOUR THE FATHER AND SON?

    ANSWER

    THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
    DISHONOURING TO GOD!
    THE MAIN PILLARS OF THE PAPAL SYSTEM COMES FROM PAGANISM – MARY WORSHIP CAME FROM ANCIENT BABYLON, WHERE THE VIRGIN MOTHER-gODDESS WAS WORSHIPED UNDER THE NAME OF ISHTAR! THUS SATAN, WORKING THROUGH THE PAPACY TO DECEIVE – FLEE FROM HER WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME!

    THE PAPAL DOCTRINE ABOUT MARY – Instead of teaching the people to look to God and Christ as their helpers, Catholics were told that only Mary and other dead people could intercede for them – the church leaders had erected high walls between the people and their Saviour.

    SEDUCING SPIRITS & DOCTRINES OF DEVILS!
    The apostle Paul warned us, saying, NOW the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils” 1 Timothy 4:1

    1John 2:22-26: “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.”

    Antichrist denies both the Father and the Son, but how? – He does so seductively or deceptively. John wrote, “These things have I written unto you, concerning them that seduce you.” The text does not say that antichrist does not speak about the Father and the Son. What it does say is that antichrist denies the Father and the Son in a way that seduces Christians. What then is the relationship between the Father and the Son? JESUS SAID, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6. Paul said, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” 1 Timothy 2:5.

    DOES ANTICHRIST DENY THAT THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST? – He certainly does. And if you deny that relationship between the Father and the Son, you are also denying the Son. Can antichrist deny that relationship and still claim or profess to follow Christ? – Yes, and this is what makes antichrist so deceptive.

    SPIRITUALISM – FLEE TO THE GOD OF HEAVEN & IN HIS STRENGTH, RESIST THESE EVIL POWERS.

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    #947181
    Berean
    Participant

    #947179
    Berean
    Participant

    Hi and best wishes all,

    Many are teaching today that when Jesus returns, He will establish an earthly kingdom and that the kings of this present time will submit to His rule or be destroyed. But that’s not the picture we see in these verses. All the kingdoms of this world will be destroyed at the brightness of His coming, an event seen by every living person.

    No matter where a person lives, no matter what language he speaks or what age he is, when Christ returns, he will know about it: “Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him. 
 And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him” (Revelation 1:7).

    All those who have disdained Christ’s mercy, call, and love will face what they have done. Sadly, we see that people from all walks of life—rich and poor, master and servant, worldly wise and celebrity—will choose against their Creator.

    In response, they would all rather die than embrace Him. Why? “Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded” (Proverbs 1:24). Our God did all He could so that “all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9); our Savior, when He was sacrificed on the cross, said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do” (Luke 23:34). The truth of who God is and what He did for every human being will be undeniable. And those who did not take His gift of eternal life will know what they have lost. It will be more than they can bear.

    At this very moment, Christ our Advocate is interceding for each of us; He is giving you every chance He can, down to the wire, to repent. What is left for those who have refused life from the One who holds the keys to eternal life?

    Gracious Redeemer, may I never deny, may I never reject Your offer. May I be found among those who ever desire to seek Your face.

    For Further Study: Isaiah 2:19–21; Hosea 10:8; Matthew 23:37
    KEY BIBLE TEXTS
    And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; Revelation 6:15

    God bless

     

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    #947178
    Berean
    Participant

    God bless

     

    #947177
    Berean
    Participant

    📣📣📣 SUNDAY PAGAN WORSHIP IS A CREATION FROM THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ⚠⏰‌

    “There is but one church on the face of the earth which has the power, or claims power, to make laws binding on the conscience, binding before God, binding under penalty of hell-fire. For instance, the institution of Sunday. What right has any other church to keep this day? You answer by virtue of the third commandment (the papacy did away with the 2nd regarding the worship of graven images, and called the 4th the 3rd), which says ‘Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.’ But Sunday is not the Sabbath. Any schoolboy knows that Sunday is the first day of the week. I have repeatedly offered one thousand dollars to anyone who will prove by the Bible alone that Sunday is the day we are bound to keep, and no one has called for the money. It was the holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest from Saturday, the seventh day, to Sunday, the first day of the week.” – T. Enright, C.S.S.R., in a lecture delivered in 1893.

    ”Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.” C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

    “Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.” Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157

    “The Pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine law”. The pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts a vicegerent of God upon earth” Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, art. Papa, II, Vol. VI, p. 29.”

    ““The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who “takes the place” of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity.” John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994”

    ““If we consulted the Bible only, we should still have to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is, Saturday, with the Jews, instead of Sunday; 
” — A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies, by Rev. John Laux M.A., Benzinger Brothers, 1936 edition, Part 1.

    “Sunday is a Catholic institution, and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles
. From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first.” Catholic Press, Aug. 25, 1900

    “The Sabbath was Saturday, not Sunday. The Church altered the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of Sunday. Protestants must be rather puzzled by the keeping of Sunday when God distinctly said, ‘Keep holy the Sabbath Day.’ The word Sunday does not come anywhere in the Bible, so, without knowing it they are obeying the authority of the Catholic Church.” Canon Cafferata, The Catechism Explained, p. 89.

    ”Reason and sense demand the acceptance of one or the other of these alternatives: either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday, or Catholicity and the keeping holy of Sunday. Compromise is impossible.” John Cardinal Gibbons, The Catholic Mirror, December 23, 1893.”

    📱📱📱WAKE UP CHILDREN OF GOD OPEN YOUR BIBLES 📖 AND STUDY IT SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS FACEBOOK PAGES AND GROUPS GIVE YOUR HEART ❀ TO JESUS REPENT WORSHIP GOD ALONE AND KEEP HIS HOLY LAW AND HIS HOLY SABBATH JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON 🔜 THERE IS NOT MUCH TIME đŸ”šâ°â€Œïž.

    #947176
    Berean
    Participant

    📣📣📣 SUNDAY PAGAN WORSHIP IS A CREATION FROM THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ⚠⏰‌

    “There is but one church on the face of the earth which has the power, or claims power, to make laws binding on the conscience, binding before God, binding under penalty of hell-fire. For instance, the institution of Sunday. What right has any other church to keep this day? You answer by virtue of the third commandment (the papacy did away with the 2nd regarding the worship of graven images, and called the 4th the 3rd), which says ‘Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.’ But Sunday is not the Sabbath. Any schoolboy knows that Sunday is the first day of the week. I have repeatedly offered one thousand dollars to anyone who will prove by the Bible alone that Sunday is the day we are bound to keep, and no one has called for the money. It was the holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest from Saturday, the seventh day, to Sunday, the first day of the week.” – T. Enright, C.S.S.R., in a lecture delivered in 1893.

    ”Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.” C. F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, in answer to a letter regarding the change of the Sabbath, November 11, 1895.

    “Tradition, not Scripture, is the rock on which the church of Jesus Christ is built.” Adrien Nampon, Catholic Doctrine as Defined by the Council of Trent, p. 157

    “The Pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine law”. The pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts a vicegerent of God upon earth” Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, art. Papa, II, Vol. VI, p. 29.”

    ““The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who “takes the place” of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity.” John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994”

    ““If we consulted the Bible only, we should still have to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is, Saturday, with the Jews, instead of Sunday; 
” — A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies, by Rev. John Laux M.A., Benzinger Brothers, 1936 edition, Part 1.

    “Sunday is a Catholic institution, and its claim to observance can be defended only on Catholic principles
. From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of weekly public worship from the last day of the week to the first.” Catholic Press, Aug. 25, 1900

    “The Sabbath was Saturday, not Sunday. The Church altered the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of Sunday. Protestants must be rather puzzled by the keeping of Sunday when God distinctly said, ‘Keep holy the Sabbath Day.’ The word Sunday does not come anywhere in the Bible, so, without knowing it they are obeying the authority of the Catholic Church.” Canon Cafferata, The Catechism Explained, p. 89.

    ”Reason and sense demand the acceptance of one or the other of these alternatives: either Protestantism and the keeping holy of Saturday, or Catholicity and the keeping holy of Sunday. Compromise is impossible.” John Cardinal Gibbons, The Catholic Mirror, December 23, 1893.”

    📱📱📱WAKE UP CHILDREN OF GOD OPEN YOUR BIBLES 📖 AND STUDY IT SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS FACEBOOK PAGES AND GROUPS GIVE YOUR HEART ❀ TO JESUS REPENT WORSHIP GOD ALONE AND KEEP HIS HOLY LAW AND HIS HOLY SABBATH JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON 🔜 THERE IS NOT MUCH TIME đŸ”šâ°â€Œïž.

    #947173
    Berean
    Participant

    1)Babylone, 2)Medo-persia, 3)Grecia,4)Pagan Rome, 5)Papal Rome

    These five heads have fallen
    The last one fallen (the 5th) will be being healed (papacy’s political Power):
    👉Rev.13:3 👉And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound 👉was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.👈
    v.8 8] And all that dwell upon the earth👉 shall worship him,👈 whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Do you believe that “all that dwell upon the earth👉 shall worship him” is the Ottoman Empire???
    BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IT IS ALSO WRITTEN IN CHAPTER 17
    v.8 The beast that thou sawest was(538-1798), and is not(NOW); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit(SOON), and go into perdition(AT THE END): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and 👉 YET IS.

    v.11 And the beast that was, and is not, 👉 even he is the eighth, 👉and is of the seven👈, (the 5th) and goeth into perdition.

     

     

    #947169
    Berean
    Participant

    The kings of the earth are the ten horns of the beast with which the whore prostituted herself( Rev.17:2) and it is through them that she persecuted the saints (Rev.13 and 17) for more than 1000 years.
    The papacy is the anti Christ WHICH HAS FORMED HIMSELF FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE CHURCH:
    👇
    18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
    [19] They went👉 OUT FROM US, 👈BUT YHEY WEEE NOT OF US; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.(1John 18,19)

    The Ottoman Empire did not come out of the ranks of Christianity, the papacy YES, that is why it is not the anti Christ nor a head of the beast.

     

    #947162
    Berean
    Participant

    Revelation 17 and its Kings

    With the startling news of Pope Benedict’s resignation, countless expositors of Scripture
    declared that his fall was part of the fulfillment of Revelation 17. Did Benedict’s fall have
    anything to do with that chapter? Let us examine the cryptic symbols therein to ascertain the
    truth.
    Beginning in earnest at the time of the Reformation, the identity of the great whore of
    Revelation 17 has not been in doubt. All of the Protestant Reformers agreed that the great whore
    of Revelation 17 is the system of Roman Catholicism. Some of the more blatant characteristics
    of the whore are the following:

    1. It unites with the leaders/state governments bringing the church and state together. (V.2)
    2. It commits blasphemy. (V. 3)
    a. This is claiming to be God. (John 10:30-33)
    b. This is claiming power to forgive sins. (Matthew 2:5-7)
    3. It is very wealthy. (V. 4)
    4. It has killed millions of Christ’s followers for centuries. (V. 6)
    5. Its geographical foundation is founded on 7 hills/mountains. (V. 9)
    6. Its name is found in a great city in our world. (V. 18)
    These characteristics led the reformers and honest Bible students to one obvious conclusion;
    the whore is the papacy and only the papacy!! While the identity of the great whore is clear,
    other parts of the chapter have baffled many for a long time. We will seek to understand those
    difficult passages in this paper.
    The time frame for this chapter can be deciphered by looking at Revelation 17:3. “So he
    carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured
    beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.” In order to behold the
    workings of the papacy, John had to go into the wilderness. What does the wilderness represent
    and when did the papacy go there? We know that the true church had to flee into the wilderness
    during the Dark Ages. “And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place
    prepared of God that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”
    Rev. 12:6 The place where the true church fled was into seclusion and obscurity. “Persecution
    opened upon the faithful with greater fury than ever before, and the world became a vast
    battlefield. For hundreds of years the church of Christ found refuge in seclusion and obscurity.
    Thus says the prophet: “The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of
    God that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three-score days.” Revelation
    12:6. The accession of the Roman Church to power marked the beginning of the Dark Ages.”
    Great Controversy, pgs. 54, 55

    John, in Revelation 17:3 had to behold the papacy in seclusion and obscurity. When was
    this? For over 1,000 years, the papacy wielded universal power; they surely weren’t in seclusion
    and obscurity. A change occurred in 1798 when Pope Pius the 6th was taken captive and died in
    exile. It was in 1798 that the papacy went into seclusion and obscurity. This is the time frame of
    Rev. 17. Revelation 18:1 pinpoints another key event just into the near future. Rev. 18:1 reads,
    “And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and
    the earth was lightened with his glory.” This passage highlights the falling of the Latter Rain in
    which the 3rd Person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit, will empower God’s children to:
    1. Live the character of God in their own lives.
    2. Preach the final message of warning to the world.
    3. Prepare to stand through the 7 last plagues.
    4. Enable them to stand when Jesus comes.
    The time frame for these two chapters is from 1798 to the out pouring of the latter rain power
    of the Holy Spirit. Within this time frame, we will now pick up the cryptic passages that baffle
    so many. “And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the
    mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten
    horns. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,
    and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not
    written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that
    was, and is not, and yet is.” Rev. 17:7, 8
    A beast is carrying the whore, giving her force, power, and authority. The beast is
    intriguing because he has a time when he was powerful, then has a time when he isn’t existing,
    and then he comes back to life one last time, only to go into oblivion! The beast has three
    periods of existence. Rev. 17:11 also declares that “And the beast that was, and is not, even he is
    the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” The books of Daniel and Revelation
    pinpoint several powers that impacted God’s people in dramatic ways. Rev. 17 mentions 7 of
    them and tells us that the beast is the 8th and he is also one of the 7 powers!!
    Who can this beast be? Given the characteristics, it becomes clear that the beast represents
    the political power given to the papacy by the governments of the world. Notice, the political
    powers gave the papacy their power during the Dark Ages. Then, in 1798, the papacy lost
    political power, and since then, she has been gradually regaining that power! In the light of
    Revelation’s picture of the papacy’s political power at a height, then losing it, and then regaining
    it one final time, it becomes obvious that the New World Order today is not new at all. The New
    World Order is simply the revival of the political power of Rome one last time!!
    Well, then what about those other kings? “And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and
    one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
    And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into
    perdition.” Rev. 17:10, 11 Remembering clearly that the time frame for this passage is 1798-

    to the latter rain, which kings/kingdoms had fallen by the time of 1798? Bible prophecy
    admits of none other. We behold through Revelation’s sister book, Daniel, the rise and fall of
    kingdoms. We have in prophetic order:
    1 Babylon 605-539 BC
    2. Media-Persia 539-331 BC
    3. Greece 331-168 BC
    4. Pagan Rome 168 BC- to 476 AD
    5. Papal Rome (holding political power given her by governments) 538-1798 AD
    As John discussed the seven kings, he said that 5 had fallen and the time frame was 1798.
    By 1798, the five fallen kingdoms were the ones just mentioned. From Babylon and
    Nebuchadnezzar to the deadly wound of the papacy in 1798, we have five fallen kingdoms.
    Then, John says, that there is one kingdom, and another that would come. Who might this
    kingdom be that was in existence in 1798 and would grow into a superpower in this world?
    What world power would have great weight in the effect it would have on God’s people?
    Clearly, the nation referred to here is the United States. She fulfills every specification of
    this portion of this prophecy. America was on the rise in 1798, would continue on its path to
    being a superpower in this world, and had great influence on the work of God’s people.
    Revelation 17, in finishing the discussion of the 7 kings/kingdoms, declares one other
    power would arise sometime in the future and would continue for a short space. We are
    fortunate to have the added light of 200 years of history since 1798. It seems clear that the
    power described here would be atheistic Communism as seen in Russia. No other world
    power in the last 200 years has influenced the world as has Russia. No other power has
    affected the work of God’s people as Russia. While America has made possible the
    promulgation of God’s truth throughout the world, Russia, for the greater part of this time,
    has sought to squelch the work of God’s people in this world!
    As we have already noticed, the beast is the 8th king/kingdom and is one of the original 7.
    Looking over the 7 kingdoms, it is very obvious that the one kingdom that was powerful, went
    into obscurity, and then rises again, can only be the political power of the papacy granted to them
    one last time by the governments of the world. The papacy, the governments of the world, the
    churches, and the financial elite, are warring with the Lamb, Jesus Christ today. The outcome of
    this final battle is not left to doubt for we read, “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the
    Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with
    him are called, and chosen, and faithful.” Revelation 17:14

    God bless

    #947160
    Berean
    Participant

    With Representatives from Various Churches, Pope Francis Launches 2025 Jubilee, a Project Aimed at Renewing the Catholic Faith

     

    “The wide diversity of belief in the Protestant churches is regarded by many as decisive proof that no effort to secure a forced uniformity can ever be made. But there has been for years, in churches of the Protestant faith, a strong and growing sentiment in favor of a union based upon common points of doctrine.” (Great Controversy, p. 444).
    A union between the churches is coming which will precede the Sunday law crisis and will involve the abandonment of clear biblical teachings. We were warned that Protestantism would adopt Catholic practices, leading to the development of a false universal system of worship. Today, Protestantism is truly becoming more and more like Rome every day—in terms of appearances, words, actions, characteristics, and faith. The Bible is becoming less meaningful and valuable in our day and age as Protestantism becomes more and more allied with the Catholic Church.

    The Vatican’s 2025 Jubilee, also known as a Holy Year, is a major religious event in the Catholic Church. According to the Catholic Standard, the official weekly newspaper for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Washington, 2025 Jubilee is a special year of grace, prayer, and pilgrimage, offering an opportunity to renew the Catholic faith and receive special “plenary indulgences.” These Jubilees traditionally occur every 25 years, but what makes this year’s event unique is that for the first time, members of a multi-faith delegation participated with Pope Francis in “crossing” the threshold of the “holy door” located in St. Peter’s Basilica, representing a shared and visible sign of unity that Rome wants all Christians to participate in.

    The Catholic Standard published the following on December 24, 2024:

    ‱ “In the quiet of Christmas Eve, Pope Francis opened the Holy Door of St. Peter’s Basilica, launching what he called a ‘Jubilee of Hope’.” [1]

    ‱ “The steps we now take are the steps of the whole church, a pilgrim in the world and a witness of peace,” the pope told the assembled cardinals, bishops, ecumenical guests and lay faithful in the atrium of the basilica.” [1]

    ‱ “Pope Francis prayed that the Holy Spirit would soften hardened hearts so that enemies may speak to each other again, adversaries may join hands and people seek to meet together.” [1]

    ‱ “Neither the Vatican press office nor the Jubilee press office released the names of the pilgrims or explained how they were chosen.” [1]

    ‱ “Also among the first to cross the threshold were representatives of other Christian churches.” [1]

    The fact that many churches have joined Pope Francis in crossing the threshold into a new era of common witness in which adversaries have come together as friends is a necessary fulfillment of biblical prophecy that is needed for the implementation of the mark of the beast. The churches will not influence the state to impose the mark until all are united in one:

    “The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.” (Great Controversy, p. 588).

    “When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.” (The Great Controversy, p. 445)
    We were warned that the time would come when Protestants, forgetting the principles of the Reformation, would seek common ground with the Roman Catholic Church. This is described as “reaching across the gulf” to clasp hands with Catholicism, motivated by a desire for unity and a consolidation of religious power. This act would be a betrayal of the Protestant history and heritage because the Reformation was founded on the principles that the Holy Scriptures are the ultimate authority in matters of faith and practice, which are in direct opposition to the principles of the 2025 Jubilee in Rome.

    We are seeing the final chapter of the Reformation as strange events, both in the religious and secular worlds, unfold before our eyes. The religious stage is being set. Almost all the churches have united. The Roman Catholic Church has apparently had the most to gain from the atmosphere of ecumenism. The entire world is being wooed to join the great apostate fellowship found in Revelation 13, 17, and 18.

    The 500 years of rich Protestant history have been rejected, cast down, and “trodden under foot” (Daniel 8:14) as more and more Reformation churches line up to embrace their mother, Rome. Protestants used to reject the Pope’s claims of infallibility and supremacy as blasphemous during the Reformation era. They broke away from Rome because of her false doctrines. And what doctrines have changed in Catholicism since then? None.

    Pope Francis has done more than any previous pope to unite Protestants and Catholics. One must grasp the magnitude of what is happening before our eyes: the complete surrender of the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century.

    Sources

    [1] https://www.cathstan.org/faith/pope-opens-holy-door-of-st-peters-basilica-launching-jubilee-of-hope

    With Representatives from Various Churches, Pope Francis Launches 2025 Jubilee, a Project Aimed at Renewing the Catholic Faith

     

    God bless

     

    🙏

     

     

    #947155
    Berean
    Participant

    Proclaimer

    When the beast” IS “, il means the woman and beast ARE ONE.

    IN REV.17 WE SEE THE JUDGMENT OF THE ROMAN RELIGIOUS POWER, THE WHORE, NOT THE BEAST.

    IN REVELATION 13, THE SYMBOL OF THE WHORE IS NOT SHOWN, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME POLITICO/RELIGIOUS POWER AGAINST THE SAINTS OF GOD.

    👇

    And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
    [6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
    [7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    🙏

     

     

    #947150
    Berean
    Participant

    The Prostitute Woman symbolizes RELIGIOUS power WHILE THE BEAST SYMBOLIZES CIVIL/POLITICAL POWER.

    THE PROSTITUTE WOMAN INFLUENCED POLITICAL POWER AND USED IT FOR HER OWN USE AND TO IMPOSE HER DOGMAS AND “CORRECT THE HERITICS”

    #947148
    Berean
    Participant

    Excuse me I wrote in French

     

    Hi Proclaim

    This is what is said of the judgment of the woman who prostituted herself with the kings of the earth for 1260 years. (538-1798)see Rev.13]

    Rev.17
    [1] And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee 👉the judgment of 👉the great whore that sits upon many waters:
    [2] With whom 👉the kings of the earth have committed fornication,👈 and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    
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    6] And I saw👉 the woman drunken with 👉the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:👈 and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    How could this whore become “drunken with 👉the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:👈 that is the question.

    Because a church normally does not have an army to wage war, nor a police force to pursue delinquents.

     

    The only way the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) in the past has been able to persecute the saints of Jesus is that it has used the secular power of the kings and princes of the earth after converting them to its cause. (The 10 HORNS crowned in Rev.13:1)

    In the book of Daniel it says in chapter 11

    31] And👉 arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily (sacrifice), and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

    These “arms” are the arms of the kings who ruled over the territory of the defeated/fallen Roman Empire of the West and who came to the aid of the papacy. The first to come to the aid of the papacy was the king of France Clovis around the beginning of the sixth century.

    But the papacy received a mortal wound in 1798 as announced in Revelation 13

    V.3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;

    And also his healing

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    and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    And this is WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WITTING, but coming gradually.

    HIS TOTAL HEALING WILL BE WHEN THE KINGS OF THE EARTH (THE 10 HORNS) SUBJECT TO THE INJUNCTIONS OF THE SECOND BEAST OF REVELATION 13:11-18)

    will give 👉their power and strength unto the beast.👈

    Rev.17:12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; BUT receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
    [13] These have one mind, and shall give👉 their power and strength unto the beast.👈

    14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

    To be continued if God wants

    🙏

    #947147
    Berean
    Participant

    @proclaimer

    You :Nothing you have ever said about the Vatican has ever convinced me that it is the Beast.

    The Beasts are the Empires around the Mediterranean Sea.

    The Woman that rides the Beast on the other hand are the false religions of Babylon that have evolved into the false religions of the present era. The Vatican and Pope qualify here IMO.

     

    Me

    Hi Proclamer

    Voici ce qu’il est dit du jugement de la femme  qui s’est prostituĂ© avec les rois de la terre durant 1260 ans. ( 538-1798)see Rev.13]

    Rev.17
    [1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee 👉the judgment of 👉the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
    [2] With whom 👉the kings of the earth have committed fornication,👈 and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 

    ….

    6] And I saw👉 the woman drunken with 👉the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:👈 and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Comment cette whore a t elle pu devenir “drunken with 👉the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:👈  c’est la la question.

    Car une Ă©glise normalement n’a pas d’armĂ©e pour faire la guerre, ni de police pour poursuivre les dĂ©linquants.

    La seule façon pour l’Ă©glise catholique romaine ( RCC) dans le passĂ© pour se permettre de persĂ©cuter les saints de JĂ©sus est qu’elle a utilisĂ© le pouvoir sĂ©culier des rois et des princes de la terre aprĂšs les avoir converti Ă  sa cause.( Les 10 CORNES crowned in Rev.13:1)

    Dans le livre de Daniel il est dit au chapitre 11

    31] And👉 arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily (sacrifice), and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

    Ces “arms” sont les arms des rois qui ont dominĂ©s sur le territoire de l’Empire Romain dĂ©fait/tombĂ© d’occident et qui sont venus en aide a la papautĂ©. Le premier a venir en aide Ă  la papautĂ© est le roi de France Clovis vers le dĂ©but du sixiĂšme siĂšcle.

    Mais la papauté a reçu une blessure mortelle en 1798 comme annoncé en Révélation 13

    V.3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;

    Et aussi sa guérison

    👇

    and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

    Et c’est CE A QUOI NOUS ASSISTONS ACTUELLEMENT , mais venu progressivement.

     

    SA GUÉRISON TOTALE SERA QUAND LES ROIS DE LA TERRE ( LES 10 CORNES) SOUMIS AUX INJONCTIONS DE LA LA DEUXIÈME BÊTE D’APOCALYPSE 13:11-18 )

    donneront 👉their power and strength unto the beast.👈

    Rev.17 :12And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; BUT receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
    [13] These have one mind, and shall give👉 their power and strength unto the beast.👈

    14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

    To be contined if God want

    🙏

     

    #947108
    Berean
    Participant

     

    Pope Francis Invites Joe Biden to the Vatican Before He Leaves the White House

    On December 19, 2024, Pope Francis and outgoing US President Joe Biden held a telephone conversation yesterday in which they discussed social global issues, with particular attention to efforts to promote peace in the world. The call comes just weeks before Biden’s term ends, which will give way once again to Donald Trump, who swept the presidential elections held in November.

    According to the White House, the US president expressed his gratitude to the Pope, which reflects Biden’s admiration for Pope Francis. The White House released the following statement:

    ‱ “Today, President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. spoke with His Holiness Pope Francis to discuss efforts to advance peace around the world during the holiday season. The President thanked the Pope for his continued advocacy to alleviate global suffering, including his work to advance human rights and protect religious freedoms. President Biden also graciously accepted His Holiness Pope Francis’s invitation to visit the Vatican next month.” [1]
    This meeting will mark the symbolic end of the current US presidential term and underlines the importance of the relationship between the United States and the Holy See. This type of collaboration between the two beasts of Revelation 13 will continue to grow and will ultimately be seen as a necessary alliance for bringing permanent religious, social, and political change. Rome is taking a more active role in facilitating global policy, and politicians and governments are coming together to implement these so-called reforms. This trend towards political and religious unity is the foundation for the final crisis.

    Let us beware of such a union. Prophecy declares that such a framework will be used to implement the mark of the beast through the establishment of Sunday observance by law:

    “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Revelation 13:8.

    “And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.” Revelation 13:12.
    The above verses describe a religious requirement imposed by the state. The seed of this development will come as a result of the close cooperation between Rome and the United States. And although the whole world may be in favor of this cooperation, God is against it. The beast power of Revelation 13 will eventually pronounce a death penalty on those who refuse to worship the beast and receive his mark, but God will pronounce the penalty of everlasting death upon those who do (Revelation 14:9).

    The stage for this final conflict is unfolding before our eyes. Governments must be very careful not to participate in any attempt to impose religious propaganda on their people by law. That is not part of the state’s business, and religion is always in a much healthier spiritual condition when its doctrines are confined to its own legitimate sphere and away from politics. Establishing a religious test in these last days is something that God never authorized or commanded, and it will only bring persecution to minorities.

     

    Sources

    [1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/12/19/readout-of-president-bidens-call-with-his-holiness-pope-francis-2/

    Pope Francis Invites Joe Biden to the Vatican Before He Leaves the White House

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