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[Berean]

I gave you the biblical meaning of the expression “great sea,” “sea,” “many waters,”

which is found in Revelation chapter 17.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s the Mediterranean Sea or not. The Bible, in Daniel and Revelation, speaks to us through symbols:

sea, beasts, horns, crowns, woman, whore, winds, stars, etc.
Why try to add explanations we don’t need to know, when the essential meaning is already given to us?

The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.(Rev.17:15)

The whore sits upon “many waters”
which is said to be: “drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus”

The Bible tells us in the last verse of chapter 17:
“And the woman whom thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.”

This great City is the capital of the Papal Roman Empire;
Likewise the Holy City, THE NEW JERUSALEM
is the capital of the coming KINGDOM OF GOD.

[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev. 21 [2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
….
9] And there came one to me one of the seven angels who had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me
that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
[11] Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a most precious stone, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

You say
The phrase “coming up out of the earth” contrasts with the earlier beast from the sea and suggests a different origin or type of power. The second beast appears righteous like a lamb but actually speaks with the authority of the dragon, indicating deceptive religious influence that supports the first beast’s rule.

Me
Coming up from the earth
is a symbolic expression
as well as the expression: arise from the great sea.

Since “waters” means: peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues
Many waters therefore means MANY peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues

Coming up from the earth suggests something else that I have already pointed out to you;
And we also have an additional clue in Revelation12
And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth(AT THE CROSS), he persecuted the woman(church) which brought forth the man child.
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
[15] And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away from the flood.
[16] And THE EARTH HELPED THE WOMAN, and THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Small comment on this passage:
Here we see more details, and another of the 1260 year
prophecies. It shows how the True Church had to hide in
the wilderness, while the false power ruled the world from
Rome. The ‘serpent’, this wicked power, cast out water
like a flood to destroy the woman. Time after time huge
armies were sent to attack the true believers where they hid
in the little-known places of the world, in mountains, and
wilderness areas. The ‘floods’ that came out of the serpent’s
‘mouth’ also refer to laws and decrees, poured out from the
Roman powers against these true Bible believers.
This is how the ‘earth helped’ her by swallowing up
the floods of water; it meant that the wilderness areas allowed at least some of the true people of God to manage to
survive the persecution. Also it refers to the opening up of
the mostly unpopulated Americas at that time, where many
persecuted people were able to flee away from the Roman
power, and be safe to practice their true Bible faith. How
thrilling to see all this history written down before any of
it had happened.

[Berean]

@ proclaimer

Whether Daniel saw the Mediterranean or not changes nothing in the prophecy.
The great sea, also in Revelation 13
] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And also in Revelation 17 expressed in a different way

And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that 👉sitth upon many waters:

And of course, the great sea, the sea, many waters are the symbol of something, and this is revealed to us at the end of Chapter 17

15] And he saith unto me, 👉The waters which thou sawest, 👉where the whore sitth👈
👉, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.👈

a beast rise up out of the sea,
means that the extent of its territory is a very populated territory.

This was the case when Papal Rome arose in nascent Europe, after the fall of the Roman Empire.

Now, if you look at Revelation 13:11-18,
the beast that arose after the beast from the sea,
it is written: LET IT RISE FROM THE EARTH:

11] And I beheld another beast coming up 👉out of the earth👈; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke like a dragon.

Unlike the beast that rose from the sea, THE BEAST THAT RISE FROM THE EARTH ARISED IN A SPARELY POPULATED TERRITORY.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE CASE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 1776.

[Berean]

A Uniform Day of Rest: Will resting on Sunday save the nation?
by Greg Hamilton

 

A Uniform Day of Rest: Will resting on Sunday save the nation?

 

[Berean]

Catholic Journalist Says the Top Three Contenders for the 2028 Republican Presidential Ticket are Roman Catholic

Sachin Jose is a journalist for Eternal Word Television Network—a major Catholic media organization and broadcasting network. [1] On February 14, 2026, he published a post titled, “The top three contenders for the 2028 Republican presidential ticket are Catholics—J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Ron DeSantis,” [2] suggesting that, from a Catholic media perspective, these three figures represent leading possibilities for future Republican presidential leadership and could, if political trends aligned in their favor, potentially serve consecutively. If each of them were elected and served two full terms, it could mean the possibility of having a Catholic president in office for the next 20 or more years.

What Sachin Jose is pointing to is more than just a passing political statistic—it carries major prophetic significance. The fact that the leading Republican candidates are Roman Catholic is not just a coincidence; it is a preplanned trajectory. According to prophecy, the United States will ultimately form an image of the beast—understood to imitate Rome. America started out as “lamb-like”—meaning it was founded on civil and religious liberty. But God’s word says that one day it will “speak like a dragon.” That means it will use government power and legislation to enforce religious practices, including Sunday laws, thus moving away from the religious liberty it was originally built on.

In this work of transformation, America’s leading political figures, especially U.S. presidents, play a significant role. For most of our history, this nation was Protestant. Suspicion towards Catholic political power once ran deep. During the election of John F. Kennedy, the nation openly debated whether a Catholic president could act independently of papal influence. That era is gone. Today, Catholic leadership in American politics is not controversial—it has become mainstream, normalized, and even celebrated.

This demonstrates that Protestant America no longer protests. Rome is, by its very nature, a religious-political system that claims to have changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. And since the final crisis will center on mandatory worship and Sunday legislation, Rome’s growing intrusion into American political power should be considered prophetically significant. This isn’t about individuals like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, or Ron DeSantis. The problem has to do with the “healing of the deadly wound”—a restoration of global and political influence to the Papal system after its loss of temporal power in 1798. The steady rise of Catholic influence in global affairs, combined with increasing Catholic presence at the pinnacle of American political leadership, appears consistent with that healing process.

Equally concerning is the convergence between evangelical Protestantism and Catholicism within conservative politics. Once divided by major theological differences, these groups now stand shoulder to shoulder on just about every political issue. America’s religious identity is shifting and, from this perspective, will continue to do so until Washington, D.C., ultimately aligns itself with the Vatican by enforcing policies consistent with its decrees. What begins as influence moves to alignment, alignment to cooperation, and cooperation to control.

Catholic Journalist Says the Top Three Contenders for the 2028 Republican Presidential Ticket are Roman Catholic
February 17, 2026 by Andy Roman Leave a Comment
 

Sachin Jose is a journalist for Eternal Word Television Network—a major Catholic media organization and broadcasting network. [1] On February 14, 2026, he published a post titled, “The top three contenders for the 2028 Republican presidential ticket are Catholics—J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Ron DeSantis,” [2] suggesting that, from a Catholic media perspective, these three figures represent leading possibilities for future Republican presidential leadership and could, if political trends aligned in their favor, potentially serve consecutively. If each of them were elected and served two full terms, it could mean the possibility of having a Catholic president in office for the next 20 or more years.

What Sachin Jose is pointing to is more than just a passing political statistic—it carries major prophetic significance. The fact that the leading Republican candidates are Roman Catholic is not just a coincidence; it is a preplanned trajectory. According to prophecy, the United States will ultimately form an image of the beast—understood to imitate Rome. America started out as “lamb-like”—meaning it was founded on civil and religious liberty. But God’s word says that one day it will “speak like a dragon.” That means it will use government power and legislation to enforce religious practices, including Sunday laws, thus moving away from the religious liberty it was originally built on.

 

In this work of transformation, America’s leading political figures, especially U.S. presidents, play a significant role. For most of our history, this nation was Protestant. Suspicion towards Catholic political power once ran deep. During the election of John F. Kennedy, the nation openly debated whether a Catholic president could act independently of papal influence. That era is gone. Today, Catholic leadership in American politics is not controversial—it has become mainstream, normalized, and even celebrated.

This demonstrates that Protestant America no longer protests. Rome is, by its very nature, a religious-political system that claims to have changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. And since the final crisis will center on mandatory worship and Sunday legislation, Rome’s growing intrusion into American political power should be considered prophetically significant. This isn’t about individuals like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, or Ron DeSantis. The problem has to do with the “healing of the deadly wound”—a restoration of global and political influence to the Papal system after its loss of temporal power in 1798. The steady rise of Catholic influence in global affairs, combined with increasing Catholic presence at the pinnacle of American political leadership, appears consistent with that healing process.

Equally concerning is the convergence between evangelical Protestantism and Catholicism within conservative politics. Once divided by major theological differences, these groups now stand shoulder to shoulder on just about every political issue. America’s religious identity is shifting and, from this perspective, will continue to do so until Washington, D.C., ultimately aligns itself with the Vatican by enforcing policies consistent with its decrees. What begins as influence moves to alignment, alignment to cooperation, and cooperation to control.

“God’s Word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. Her doctrines are exerting their influence in legislative halls, in the churches, and in the hearts of men. She is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions will be repeated. Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage-ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the Word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution” (Great Controversy, p. 581).

 

Sources

[1] https://www.ewtnnews.com/author/sachin-jose

[2] https://x.com/sachinettiyil/status/2022820741230555456

 

 

 

[Berean]

Fox News Claims that Turning Point USA’s Halftime Show Glorified Jesus and Promoted the Gospel and Christian Culture

Turning Point USA has become one of the largest and most influential religious organizations in the United States. It is deeply embedded in politics, shaping the Republican Party’s message while expanding its faith-oriented grassroots network across the country. On Sunday, February 8, 2026, Turning Point USA hosted the “All-American Halftime Show” as an alternative to the NFL’s Super Bowl LX halftime performance.

Turning Point USA presents itself as a conservative Christian organization, and its halftime show was promoted as a faith-centered alternative to the Super Bowl spectacle—something that was supposed to be morally elevated, spiritually uplifting, and distinctly Christian. Yet in practice, much of the production resembled the very atmosphere it claimed to be contrasting. The blaring music, the high-energy theatrics, and the concert-style intensity felt strikingly similar to the NFL’s halftime show, raising questions about whether it truly offered a different vision or simply repackaged the same formula under a religious label.

However, Fox News enthusiastically covered the event and promoted it across its network. During a live broadcast, commentator Evita Duffy-Alfonso stated that Kid Rock was “spreading the gospel” during TPUSA’s halftime show. Fox News also interviewed Turning Point USA spokesperson Andrew Kolvet, who said on air that the halftime show “glorified Jesus.”

Unfortunately, the scenes from Turning Point USA’s event reflected less the spirit of revival or deep spiritual conviction and more the atmosphere of high-energy sports entertainment. Instead of conveying a distinctly reverent tone, the production resembled a rock concert-style venue, complete with lasers, flame throwers, and pyrotechnics. Tragically, this trend is changing religion—where performance-driven culture with its party-like energy is being repackaged as gospel ministry. What is presented as spiritual renewal can, at times, feel indistinguishable from the same kind of noise and intensity you see in drunken bars or concerts.

A spirit of counterfeit faith has increasingly taken root in churches, as well as in so-called political-religious events. It is shaping the conservative movement to embrace a form of godliness that replaces the power of faith in God with flashy, emotional performances (2 Timothy 3:5). Loud demonstrations, shouting, theatrical displays, elaborate light shows, dancing, and jumping are often presented as evidence of spiritual revival, but these types of behaviors do not glorify Christ or reflect the still, small voice of the Holy Spirit. Instead, this atmosphere trains people to confuse emotional excitement with genuine spiritual faithfulness, gradually preparing the modern church to focus on feelings and worldly stimulation rather than on reverent, biblical worship.

 

[Berean]

I have never disagreed with your stance of when the Sabbath is; I’ve have countered your claim of “Sunday only worship” and that it will never happen as the entire world would have to enact it and not just the United States, which is the nation you continually point out.

Stop and verify everything!!!

 

👇

The day you begin to understand what is written in Revelation 13( 11-18), then maybe you will change your mind.

 

Rev.13:11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[Berean]

I don’t subscribe to the Trinity.
As for the day of God, the Bible teaches us in both the New and Old Testaments that it is the Sabbath, not Sunday.

 

[Berean]

Coined The Ecumenical Trinity in the past: Councel of Nicea 325 AD, and present. Sunday Sacredness is dedicated to the Sun god of Rome! They want a One World Religion that unites them all, that is full of compromise and paganism… this is not of God! They have changed times and laws!

In ancient Roman culture, Sunday was the day of the sun god.
-Wikipedia

Note the following two quotes from the Catholic Church who state that neither is based on the Bible…

“Most Christians assume that Sunday is the biblically approved day of worship. The Catholic Church protests that it transferred Christian worship from the biblical SABBATH (SATURDAY) TO SUNDAY, and that to try to argue that the change was made in the Bible is both dishonest and a denial of Catholic authority. If Protestantism wants to base its teachings only on the Bible, it should worship on Saturday.” — (Rome’s
Challenge,
immaculateheart
com/maryonline, Dec 2003)

“Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture … But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, AS THE TRINITY, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels,” — (Assumption of Mary, Life magazine, Oct 30, 1950, p. 51)

Is This Important to them?

“The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the catholic church. Upon it are based all the teachings of the church” [Handbook for todays Catholic Page 1]

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It’s not the geographical setting that matters here, but rather 👉the interpretation of a symbol 👈

In prophetic language, the sea, great waters symbolizes “peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages” (Revelation 17:15). In the Bible, a beast is a symbol of a nation or power. Sometimes it represents only civil power, or ecclesiastical power united with civil power. 👉Whenever a beast is seen emerging from the sea, it signifies that this power is rising from a densely populated territory. 👉If the winds blow across the sea, as in Daniel 7:2-3, this indicates political unrest, civil strife, and revolutions.

🙏

[Berean]

President Trump Welcomes Archbishop Coakley, President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, to the White House

 

On January 12, 2026, Archbishop Paul S. Coakley, president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), met privately with President Donald J. Trump at the White House. The meeting was closed to the press, and no official details were released regarding the substance of the discussion. The USCCB—the national governing body of Catholic bishops in the United States that provides guidance to American Catholics and engages policymakers on public issues—later acknowledged the meeting in a brief statement, releasing the following.

• “Archbishop Coakley, had the opportunity for introductory meetings with President Trump, Vice President Vance, and other Administration officials, in which they discussed areas of mutual concern, as well as areas for further dialogue. Archbishop Coakley is grateful for the engagement and looks forward to ongoing discussions.” [1]

When Archbishop Paul Coakley met with Donald Trump, Vice President Vance, and other White House officials to talk about shared concerns and future cooperation, it may have seemed like a normal government matter. However, history shows that moments like this deserve careful attention. More than 1,600 years ago, Constantine the Great faced a divided and crisis-plagued Roman Empire. Instead of keeping politics out of religion, he aligned himself with the church and used it to help restore order and national unity to the empire. That decision gave the government moral legitimacy and the church political power, but it also eliminated the line between church and state, paving the way for the establishment of Sunday laws.

The current political situation feels all too familiar. When political leaders seek the support of powerful religious institutions, and when church leaders gain access to and influence within the government, both sides appear to benefit, but it is the public that ultimately pays the price when freedom and conscience are compromised. History teaches us that what begins as “dialogue” and a search for “common ground” with Rome gradually transforms into political favoritism and religious influence on public policy. That is why this meeting between the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the White House serve as an important reminder of why the separation of church and state has always been a fundamental safeguard of religious liberty.

“When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the State to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.” (Great Controversy, p. 445).

 

Sources

[1] https://x.com/usccb/status/2011172537443459411

[Berean]

Operation Absolute Resolve and the Rise of America as the Enforcer of Revelation 13

 

Hi all

In the early hours of January 3, 2026, U.S. forces carried out a large-scale military operation in Venezuela that resulted in the capture and detention of President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores. The operation, known as Operation Absolute Resolve, began shortly after 2:00 a.m. local time with coordinated airstrikes from more than 150 U.S. military aircraft.

 

 

According to top US officials, only the United States could carry out an operation of this scale and complexity because it uniquely combined global intelligence reach, stealth aviation, carrier strike groups, aerial refueling networks, space-based surveillance, and joint-force integration across all military branches—capabilities that no other nation possesses at the same depth, speed, and global readiness.

• In the video above, President Donald Trump stated, “No nation in the world could achieve what America achieved.”

• Pete Hegseth, United States Secretary of War, said, “No other country on planet earth, and it’s not even close, can pull this kind of operation off.”

• General ‘Razin’ Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, serving as the nation’s highest-ranking military officer and advisor to the President, expressed the following: “This was an operation that frankly only the United States military could undertake.”

Operation Absolute Resolve is one of the indications that the United States is the world’s premier and unmatched military power because it shows a unique combination of global reach, technological superiority, intelligence integration and implementation, and decisive execution that no other nation can replicate. The ability of the United States to project overwhelming force thousands of miles from its borders and achieve regime-change-level outcomes in hours rather than weeks sets it apart from every other power on earth.

“And he (USA) exerciseth all the power of the first beast (Rome) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.” Revelation 13:12 

This unparalleled military might and superiority help explain why the United States is identified as the Second Beast of Revelation 13. Only a nation with unmatched economic influence, global military presence, and political authority could “exercise all the power of the first beast,” give enforcement power to an end-time universal religious system, and compel a worldwide enforcement upon all nations.

“And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.” Revelation 13:15.
According to this prophetic picture, the same political and military strength that allows the United States to impose sanctions, control commerce, shape global agendas, and enforce international order makes it the only political power capable of fulfilling the prophetic realities of Revelation 13:12–17—mandating worship, setting up an “image of the beast,” and restricting buying and selling on a global scale. America’s extraordinary strength and reach are essential prerequisites for the final, worldwide crisis described in the book of Revelation.

“And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16, 17.

 

Donald Trump and his administration—working alongside Christian nationalist advisors—have been implementing policies designed to restore American dominance through military expansion, economic strength, and the deliberate re-branding of Christianity in public life. These efforts are all necessary steps to make the United States the strongest, wealthiest, and most influential power on earth, ultimately positioning it as the leading global authority capable of enforcing worldwide submission—setting the stage, prophetically, for the enforcement of Rome’s Sunday law.

 

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[Berean]

Abel placed his trust in God and in the merits of the promised Savior of the world.
Cain did not place his trust in God and in the merits of the promised Savior.
The promised Savior is the one who “was to crush the head of the serpent (Satan)” (Genesis 3:15). This took place at the cross, when Satan was exposed, he, the father of lies, a murderer from the beginning.

 

[14] Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
[15] And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.(Heb.2)

[Berean]

And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
[4] And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. 👉And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
[5] 👉But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

 

If God accepted Abel’s offering, it means that somewhere, 👉an instruction was given to those involved.
It didn’t just happen by itself.

[Berean]

The question isn’t about “sacrifices and offerings” (the Church knows perfectly well how to misuse them); the question is:

What is the meaning and purpose of Cain and Abel’s offering to God?

That’s YOUR original question!!!

me
It comes down to the same thing. It’s the same subject.

[Berean]

You can’t find anything on the internet?

I don’t believe you.

Besides, a Christian church that doesn’t have any ideas about sacrifices and offerings doesn’t exist, or it’s not a Christian church.

[Berean]

I won’t explain the subject of sacrifices and offerings to you, you already know about it, you simply NEED to believe in it, to delve deeper.

[Berean]

What did you understand before abandoning what you believed to be true?

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If you refuse to try to understand the two offerings (to Cain and Abel), one of which was accepted by God, that’s truly sad.

Yes, God abhors offerings made without enlightened faith and a sincere heart.This doesn’t prove that He doesn’t approve of those made according to God’s will.

[Berean]

I’m not convinced you really want to know anything about sacrifices and offerings.

If you did, I think you would have done it a long time ago.

[Berean]

I think it’s you who doesn’t understand things, and you’ve been on the wrong track since the very first chapters of Genesis.

“Stand at the crossroads and look, and inquire of the ancient paths, where is the good way; and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls” (Jeremiah 6:16).

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