Gene

The beast(first beast) is not Satan;

Satan is symbolized by the great read Dragon ( Revelation 12)
9] And
the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Edj,
You have to prove it by the bible
You will see in the near future that what I am saying about the USA is true ….
PREPARE TO SEE IT

Gene

Daniel chapter 2 is not sufficient to understand Revelation 17
This is why you put a lot of elements of your own that do not fit with the prophecy, nor with the story. Too bad you refuse to study more closely the whole book of Daniel and compare with Revelation.

Proclaimer

You don’t answer my questions, I don’t answer your questions …. I’m annoyed and I’m running out of time too. This subject: the beast, anti-Christ, the false prophet is of phenomenal importance … let us pray that God really leads our exchanges

“Proclaimer,  we are in the time of the fifth Babylonian kingdom  nations made up of mixed races of people, like we are this day,   “mingled” with the seed of men, different nationalites. Nearly all the powerful nations of this present age are.”

Gene

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; a…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer

It says:

After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.

‘After this’ could be anytime after that would you agree? It doesn’t have to be immediate and there is room for other going ons before this happens.

me

Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth…[Read more]

Gene

ONE PROPHETIC TIME = ONE PROPHETIC YEAR (360 PROPHETIC DAYS)
AND ONE PROPHECY DAY = ONE LITERAL YEAR OF 360 LITERAL DAYS

SO A PROPHETIC TIME. = 360 LITERAL YEARS

TIMES = 360X2 = 720 LITERALS YEARS

HALF TIME = 360: 2 = 180 LITERAL YEARS

SO …. 360+ 720 + 180 = 1260 littérals years

We find these 1260 years in Daniel 7:25
Daniel 12:…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer

Do you agree that the horn (which comes after the 10 horns of the fourth animal in Daniel 7: 23-27) is the same power described in Revelation 13: 1-10.
Both reign 1260 years.

the little horn of chap. 7 of Daniel
is the power described in chapter 13 of Revelation

Daniel 7
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. ( 1260 years)

Rev.13
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@ Proclaimer

“Did the Roman Empire conquer China?”

It’s happening, because the prophetic word cannot lie
reference Daniel 2; 7; 8; 11 and Revelation 12; 13; 14; 17. among others.
The fourth animal of Daniel 7 has an extension until the present day.

Thank you Gene, but I wasn’t asking to give me a topo of your views but just what you were referring to when you talk about the last one World gouvernment.

Proclaimer. ….this whole world is part of the BABYLOIAN KINGDOMS,   IT ALL FUNCTIONS THROUGH TRADE AND POWERFUL NATIONS all over this world , who trade with eachother but are not single minded as a single world rulling government as the past world rulling government were.
Hi Gene…Which world government are you referring to?

From the book: the great conflict (the origin of Evil)

“Before the entrance of evil there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the Only Begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,–one in nature, in…[Read more]

Is a tempter required?

Lucifer didn’t have anyone tempting him, as far as I know from the Bible.

It is not known if Eve would have taken any fruit from the tree without Satan’s temptation ….

That I wrote

At this precise moment, evil existed, Satan came to earth and succeeded in bringing down our first parents … the tree was a test of fidelity to God for Adam and Eve.

I did not write that it was Satan who planted the tree ….

At this precise moment, evil existed, Satan came to earth and succeeded in bringing down our first parents … the tree was a test of fidelity to God for Adam and Eve.

PLEASE Read THIS link

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(White)/The_Origin_of_Evil

Gene

You

God did not ask us to choose good or bad, because it has always existed, he ordered us to choose good, and even went further and explained what was good and bad.

Me

No, there was a time when peace reigned in the universe and there was no evil. It was Lucifer who started to doubt the validity of God’s law, and he went to war with…[Read more]