I agree with most of what you say here and do not necessarily disagree with any of it, exempt that I do not fully know what you might believe about some of the more brief things you touched on.

Its really simple. God is the Father and the Father made Jesus both Lord and Christ. Today he is at God’s right hand and God has put all things into his…[Read more]

..of course it’s not “LOGICAL” that both Father and Son can be God, if there is only ONE God..but we sometimes need to be reminded of Who we are trying to be logical about – we are trying to make sense to our human understanding something and Someone that cannot fit into that finite space..(like trying to get our head around how God never had a b…

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This just shows that you do not understand what I am saying. I take the scripture for what it says and I see no contradiction. But you have contradiction. Jesus says that the only true God sent him. Yet you say that he is the only true God. Contradiction right there. I don’t have that problem.

Further, I know that el, elohim, and theos, have…[Read more]

How could a being be separate and exist in the form of God? That is not hard. Adam had a son called Abel. Abel existed in the form of Adam which in Hebrew is adam which in English is man. Adam means THE man.

Likewise Jesus is the son of God. He exists in God’s form because he came from God and nothing else. All creation came from God through…[Read more]

David, I do not believe as the JWs believe. I don’t think their translation is accurate because it is exactly the same as the Trinitarian translations in that both add in an article. One adds in a definite and the other indefinite. I don’t think either is better or worse.

And no I do not believe that Jesus is Michael because Michael is under…[Read more]

It also says the Everlasting Father. Is he the Father? A person who adheres to Oneness Doctrine says so. Yet we both know that Jesus is not the Father right? Thus you need to do more than read this at face value. You need to look at the words that are being used.

Also remember that ‘theos’ and ‘elohim’ has legitimate use for those who are part…[Read more]

Further:

If John meant to say “only god” he would have simply used monos or “only” with the word “god” (as he does in JOHN 17:3)
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”

Even worse, if Jesus is the ‘one and only god’ then the Father cannot also be God.

So of the two…[Read more]

John 1:18 is renderd in two different ways. One uses the word son, the other God.
Translations render these differently because ancient manuscripts use either.

This in the least proves that textual corruption has taken place with some manuscripts because both cannot be correct. It has to be one or the other. (Or neither). And this proves my…[Read more]

But haven’t you read – “No one has ever seen God – BUT THE ONE AND ONLY SON, WHO IS HIMSELF GOD and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known.” – John 1:18 NIV
(Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. – John 3:11)

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It speaks of one God who is the Father.
The other is the Word which is Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus came from God. He is the first. He is the image of God.

David. I give you scripture. Read it.
They are not my words.

1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; ….
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1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.
Amen.
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1 Timothy 6:15-16
15 which God will bring about in his own time, God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King o…[Read more]

Peter said that Jesus is the son of the living God and the messiah, so I am not going to budge on that one. Unless you can prove that this verse is a corruption of the text.

Further, the Book of John which you hinge your extra-biblical doctrine on doesn’t even add up with John’s own conclusion for his book.

John 20:31.
But these are…[Read more]

David, I have a choice here.
And what should I choose?
Your interpretation of the rock or what Jesus said the rock was which he also said was revealed to Peter by the Father.

1) David L: Jesus is God
2) Peter: Jesus is the son of God, & messiah.

I have to go with Peter. I trust the scripture. Sorry, I don’t accept your alternative. But…[Read more]

You are not paying attention.

I do not believe in the JW translation just as I do not believe the way that most Trinitarian translations write it.

John 1:1c neither says that “THE Word was THE God”, or “THE Word was A God”.

Many men have been led astray by both Athanasius and Arius who are considered the fathers of the Catholics and JWs…[Read more]

You said:

first you condemn me for believing the Scriptural revelation of Jesus as God (a revelation every born again believer has), saying I should check out all things using scripture to see if they are so – then when I quote Peter’s revelation of Jesus, and how Jesus never rebuked Peter for this – you suddenly claim this revelation as proof…

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You said:

so I guess you’re saying that when Jesus said to Peter, “Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but My Father which is in heaven,” – really Jesus should of told Peter off for not running away and examining a whole bunch of Scriptures first..??

What I am saying is that Jesus built his Chu…[Read more]

You said:

The difference between you and other Christians is that we’re not looking for proof because – it’s not an issue..!!! we’ve already accepted the truth that Jesus is God

Well you are the one who said it.

I believe that we should check out all things using scripture to see if they are so. You have just told me that you do not. I belie…[Read more]

In answer to your question above.

He existed in the FORM of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, was obedient to God as a servant, died for our sins, rose from the dead, then ascended into Heaven at the right-hand of God in the glory that he had with him before the world began.

Note that he existed in God’s form and is seated at the…[Read more]

If Jesus own words and the rest of scripture is not enough, then I have nothing else to offer.
It is up to you to believe it and let it renew your mind.
But you are free to not accept too in which case there is not much more to discuss.
“This is eternal life, that you may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent.”

I don’t think anyone is saying that Israel is a nation after God. But that God hasn’t given up on the Jews and after WWII and the holocaust, he brought them back from the four corners of the globe to dwell in the land once more and to possess Jerusalem just as he said he would. This small desert region has become a garden in the sense of the…[Read more]