It is simple DavidL.

The angel of YHWH is the ANGEL of YHWH. YHWH is not an angel.

And because the angel is sent by God, then it is God that the person is dealing with because God sent that angel.

Remember God is invisible and is eternal and not confined to a body. Thus dealing with God will always be through an agent. The primary agency…[Read more]

It is simple DavidL.

The angel of YHWH is the ANGEL of YHWH. YHWH is not an angel.

And because the angel is sent by God, then it is God that the person is dealing with because God sent him.

Remember God is invisible and is eternal and not confined to a body. Thus dealing with God will always be through an agent. The primary agency of God…[Read more]

The Spirit of God does not contradict scripture or change its meaning. I don’t accept your argument that the Spirit changes the words of scripture.

Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

Being born-again does not change this for “the only true God, The Father, Son, and Holy…[Read more]

DavidL, you make statements, but they do not match scripture. And you never explain why this is. I cannot take you at your word. Show me scripture and show me how the scriptures we quote are not saying what they say. Then I will consider that. But statements like this are meaningless. The Bereans checked out what Paul said using scripture and Paul…[Read more]

@ DavidL
echad means both unity and one in number. So if there is a choice, then let scripture point you to which is correct.

Jesus said, “eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

Thus according to Jesus, God is one and is composed of the Father who is one. There you have it. Jesus clears this up…[Read more]

BTW, elohim is used of angels too and even an earthquake. In the case of the latter, is it a plural of earthquakes?

@ DavidL
We understand why you believe the Trinity, but it is obscure and contradicts half the New Testament. Any hypothesis you come up with has to embrace all scripture, not just a few.

We know that God created all things through his Word and the Word was with him, and the Word is Jesus who is the image of God. Thus do you think it possible…[Read more]

I know you will reject anything I have said in the above 2 posts, so I will beat you to the punch. Your misunderstanding of John 1:1 renders the rest of scripture regarding who God is as obsolete. Thus you should question your understanding of it because it needs to be in harmony with the fact that Jesus explicitly states that there is one true…[Read more]

@ DavidL
In short, your understanding of John 1:1c would be like saying that Judas was the Devil in John 6:70 even though there is no definite article, while I am arguing that Jesus was classifying him as being like the Devil with a devilish nature, meaning he was of his father the devil.

So, the Word was God as you see it implies that the…[Read more]

John 1:1c is using theos qualitatively.

Use this simple example to understand what qualitative means. When Jesus called Judas a devil, he did not use the definite article and hence translators do not capitalize devil to Devil in English. To your English mind even you understand the difference between Devil and devil. Thus there is one Devil,…[Read more]

@ DavidL
Being equal in anyway to anything is the same as saying you are not that thing.

Being equal to God means you are not God. A team that is equal to the All Blacks means they are not the All Blacks by reason of them being equal. If females are equal to males, then would that make females male? If Jesus is equal to God, then he is not…[Read more]

@ DavidL
Unless you forgot what I said or didn’t read what I said, I have taught all along that theos in John 1:1c has no article neither definite or indefinite. Thus I have taught that it is qualtitaive in meaning and is not identifying him as God. I have even pointed out that Trinitarian scholars admit this too.

So either your words are…[Read more]

Jesus said, “eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

Scripture takes precedent over your opinions. Especially the words of Jesus Christ.

Further, hecklers draw the crowds. Thank you.

I think that those who are saved can have an assurance of that salvation. But it is equally true that those who are not, can believe they are saved. This is evident as you say from all these diverse groups with diverse gospels and doctrines that believe they are saved.

I think the difference between the two is that one knows in their spirit…[Read more]

In many circumstances it is better to ignore them. But this site is managed by myself and it is my duty to refute anyone who comes here and preaches false doctrine or traditions of men. That is the actual purpose of the site too. To test all things to see if they are so.

Hence why we are strong on scripture. All that other stuff about Jesus…[Read more]

It is those who preach false doctrine that are being defined.
Paul, Peter, and John warned us a number of times that many would come and deceive many, even from among us. They also singled out certain people among us and warned us about their doctrine.

1 Timothy 4:1-2,6
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith…[Read more]

BB, yes we should not abandon our first love. But that doesn’t mean that we do not refute false doctrine. Paul and the other Apostles preached and guarded the message as it was handed down. If we neglect that, then we give license to all manner of false doctrine with no opposition, thereby leaving people to not see why some doctrines are wrong.…[Read more]

DavidL said: “(like the rest of your anti-trinity belief)…”.

BTW, I also have an anti-Easter Bunny belief too. lol.

DavidL. you defend making an icon or image with your own hands or mind of God. And this is what I believe the Trinity is and you don’t seem to be concerned about that. This icon/image of the Trinity is made by man and for man. It is God subject to man’s mind, or man explaining God using his own spirit.

But that which is of God comes from the…[Read more]

I wonder if Paul and Titus repented of that?

Titus 1:9: He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.