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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
@Proclaimer
You said:
Yet you think the Father came from an earlier entity which spawned both the Father and the Son.
No, that’s not what I think. I think the eternal entity gave of himself in order to beget a son through the process of asexual reproduction.. Therefore the essence within the Son was within the Father beforehand. The Son and the F…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
Keras,
Please show us the facts in the Bible that prove that Kim C speaks rubbish designed to gain him fame and money.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Carmel,
Where is Jesus’ body now, that was born of Mary?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Thanks, I am having a great day. We are seeing some signs of spring here finally.
You said:
…why isn’t their creation mentioned then in the account thereof in Genesis?
Gen 2:1 says: Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished.
It is there that the angels are mentioned. The host of the heavens were the a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Carmel,
Where is Jesus’ body right now according to you?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Thanks for the link, Berean.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Proclaimer,
you said:
It says that he is the Father of all spirits.
When did He become the Father of the Son? What was He before He became the Father of the Son?
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
Keras,
You said:
I did look at some of Kim’s pronouncements. Typically America centered rubbish, designed to gain him fame and money; much money!
All I see are your opinions, please give us facts to back up your opinions.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Lu…..The word Christ, simply means the anointing of anyone who has the Spirit of God on them, that includes all the true prophets, of God , including Jesus. Has nothing to do with any person’s “preexistence” at all.
Did you mean to address this to me?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You said:
Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together,…
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Carmel,
You neglect this verse that tells when Jesus will raise himself up…
John 2
19Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and yet You will raise it up in three days?” 21But He was speaking about the temple of His body. 22So wh…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Carmel,
I certainly do not agree with you in that post, sorry.
For instance:
The “giving” of his body was figurative, not literal. No one really ate Jesus’ flesh or drank his blood. He uses bread and wine as objects to remind us of his bodily sacrifice for our sins. Also, his body did not undergo decay because it was resurrected on the third…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Keras,
You said:
So Kim C, was not from God and to even listen to him is a mistake, as we DO have all the information about Gods Plans for our future in our Bibles.
And you also said this:
I do not have the time or inclination to find out what Kim C prophesied.
Why would I, or anyone? The Bible prophets have said it all, our future is all…
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I have several thoughts towards your post to me, so to keep it short, for starters:
You stated:
The celestial messengers of God are God’s Sons. They are eternally led by the Spirit of God, so thus they are eternal Sons of God. They existed prior to the creation we read in Genesis.
I would love to know why you think the “celestial me…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Thanks Berean, that’s beautiful and so calming.
Enjoy your weekend,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Mary being the only women God had sex with that brought forth the “only begotten of God”, by God himself in the womb of a women.
Gene, did you really mean to claim that God had sex with Mary?
A begetting is not always sexual Gene. It can be asexual, it can also be figurative. It can also mean “brought forth” from one place…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I hope you are well 🙂
Regarding 1 John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
From what I understand of your beliefs, you deny that there is/was a Son of God that existed in a living way in the image of his father, before creation.
It seems that you believe that the Son…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
keras,
What “end time events” do you claim that Kim C. prophesied about? From what I have heard from him, he was prophesying about events in the future but not distant end time events. Also, what do you think he said that was false?
Regarding Daniel 12:4,9…that is about the end times and I do not deny that.
Kim C did not give end time…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Lu….I know what you are trying to say, but , no matter what you say, a Father always premises his Son, God told Abraham he would be the Father of many nations, “would be”, not that he already was.
I think what you are trying to say is that the person who will be a father to his future son, will have already existed as a person b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 3 years, 10 months ago
Keras,
Read this:
Acts 11:27-30
27Now at this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28One of them, named Agabus, stood up and indicated by the Spirit that there would definitely be a severe famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. 29And to the extent that any of the disciples had means, each of…[Read more]
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