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Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 10 months ago
carmel,
You said:
JESUS, SCRIPTURAL, LEFT THIS WORLD AFTER FORTY DAYS!
Jesus went to the Father in heaven on the third day and came back that day. After forty days, He went to heaven and stayed.
This is clear in John 20
…16Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher”). 17“Do not cling to Me…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 10 months ago
Procleimer,
You said:
Jesus is not God, he is His Son. We are not God, we are his sons.
Believers will have the relationship as a son to God the Father as Jesus does, I agree. Believers will have a glorious body like Jesus’ glorious body, I agree. However, believers do not become sons in the same way that Jesus originally became a son, therefore,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 10 months ago
Berean,
You asked:
AS YOU CAN READ ABOVE, A SON OF MAN ROSE ON THE THIRD DAY, WHILE ANOTHER SON OF MAN REMAINED THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH/HELL!
Answer please:
IS THE SON OF MAN MENTIONED IN MARK THE SAME SON OF MAN MENTIONED IN MATTHEW?
It is the same person.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 year, 10 months ago
Hi Jodi,
It’s been a while. I hope you are doing well considering your recent loss.
I would like to know your understanding of what the One who existed in the form of God emptied himself of as spoken of in Philippians 2:
5Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Carmel,
Jesus rose on the third day. Jesus was always perfect. Jesus is not the Father. Jesus did not inherit the nations until he returned to the Father on the the day Psalms 2 refers to, the day of his resurrection.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Berean
You said:
A point where I agree with you IS THAT YES JESUS ON THE THIRD DAY OR THE FOLLOWING DAY WENT TO THE FATHER.
Great! I believe that the ascension to the Father in the active sense by the Son was in-between when Jesus had risen and appeared to Mary and meeting with the men on the road to Emmaus. I believe that because Psalms 2…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Carmel,
The Son of Man IS Jesus who before He became Jesus, the Son of Man (aka Son of David) was the only begotten Son of God, begotten before the ages, who was anointed to become flesh and suffer on the cross as the promised Messiah to take away our sins and then inherit the nations.
Your turn 🙂
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
Read this:
John 8:21Then He said again to them, “I go away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin; where I am going, you cannot come.” 22So the Jews were saying, “Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?” 23And He was saying to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Proclaimer,
Please address this post that was posted about 11 days ago:
Proclaimer:
You said:
If you agree that the first Adam was a prototype, then why not the final Adam?
LU: The second Adam was a life giving spirit. Is there another person that is a life giving spirit modeled after the second Adam? I don’t know of any.
Jesus is the f…
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Carmel,
Are you clear that the Son of Man did not inherit the nations before His crucifixion but instead after?
Just yes or no Carmel, please don’t make it complicated.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
LUK 24
And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.This verse shows us that Jesus is not the author of the action to go to HEAVEN.
“he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.”
It’s the “passive voice.”
That’s great Berean, you are getting the idea of the pass…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
You said:
In the case of Jesus “Resurrection” means physically passing from death to life.
And “ascension” to “rise” from earth to HEAVEN.Can you show me a verse that Jesus was resurrected before He met Mary in the garden where the verse actually has the Greek word for “resurrected” and not just “raised up?”
I believe that the ra…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Carmel,
Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.
Psalms 2:7
“I will declare the decree:
The Lord has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
8Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations f…Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Berean,
You forgot this
RESURRECTION
Strong’s #386 anastasis: a standing up, i.e. a resurrection, a raising up, rising.
Jesus raised up His “temple” on the third day by ascending to the Father.
Both words you listed can mean rise/raise up.
God raised Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit, from the dead and showed Him to Mary. Then Jesus…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
I choose to make Jesus Lord of my life or not, no one can force me. My God is much bigger than a god that forces his will on others.
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Berean,
Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant. He took it up again when He ascended back to His Father and received all authority in heaven and on earth. His ascension to the Father on day three after He was talking to Mary is the part of the resurrection that Jesus did by His…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Berean,
LU: Can you show me a verse that is about Jesus’s resurrection that the grammar shows Jesus doing the action in an active voice as opposed to a passive voice?
Berean:
… in an active voice …!!!???
Sorry, that is confusing if you do not know Greek grammar. You see, the verbs in Greek have specific endings that tell many things about the v…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene,
If our will was not greater than God’s will, we wouldn’t be asked to surrender our will. God can make us do things against our will if He needs to but that would be merciful, not obligatory. God wants us to lay down our life and take up our cross, He doesn’t force us to however. We have a choice. When we lay down our life and take up our…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was the Tower of Babel a real building? in the forum Archaeology & Biblical History 1 year, 11 months ago
Interesting Proclaimer, thanks for posting. Another example of the rocks crying out!
Lightenup replied to the topic Interdependence of Father and Son in the forum View Points 1 year, 11 months ago
Gene, if the Holy Spirit possesses us and forces us to speak and act and obey, when we receive the Holy Spirit, then the fruit of the Spirit would not be “self-control” it would be other controlled.
Galatians 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness, and self-control.
The fruit…[Read more]
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