And, as SF alludes, GOD (Would be) the FATHER to Son (That would be).So Trinity is again broken…:God is the FatherThe Son is the Son of the father God (The Father) ———The Holy Spirit | | The SonNothing more.But wait, there is More…see next post.

It is as SF says in the last line in his last post above.

Kathi – NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…(Ah, so that's why your were trying to FORCE the issue of the MOTHER – ah, I see, nice try – NO, Kathi, it doesn't work…)

Moreover, it is TRINITY CREED we are fighting…God is the FatherGod is the SonGod is the Holy SpiritBut WHO was the one who BECAME THE FATHER – BEFORE – there was a SON for him to be a FATHER to?And, if there was no SON, and therefore NO FATHER, then how was there a TRINITY?

Kathi,why are you fighting extreme basic scripture…?

Kathi,ONLY GOD has existed from ETERNITY….And GOD CREATED a SON….and When he created a SON, he also became a FATHER…. simple as…!

kathi, is it really that easy to get side tracked.What has a woman being a mother got to do with God being a Father…?I indulged the Mother thing to put a point that “A Mother is a mother when she has a child” I conceded because it is a mute point and distraction.a HUMAN WOMAN (Is there any other sort) has nothing to do with A SPIRIT SON being…[Read more]

That's pretty Mikeboll64, and a happy new year to you, too.

Poor Mikeboll64,has anyone else felt his tears….maybe someone can help to dry them for him…oh, I found an old bucket you can weep into…Why are you defending yourself Mikeboll64 – is it because everything I said was TRUE?

kathi, tip: Never use WIKIPEDIA to try and prove anything…

Back to the foreplay.What of what else i asked?

Kathi,I concede the point. not the issue, side tracked this is all to easy to do…God is not a woman.

Kathi, did you only look in ONE Dictionary?(p.s. – You know that this is what Irene did in “Do Spirits have bodies” she searched and searched until she found ONE SINGLE definition of what she wanted to say in an thesis on a UNIVERSITY Website and then REFUSED to look at the THOUSAND others that spoke against her!)

Kathi, I just looked up MOTHER in about 10 dictionaries and ONLY ONE (An American dictionary) said what you said.ALL the rest said “A who has given birth to a child”But, again, don't wanna push the issue (sorry)…cos that ain't the issue (sorry!) – just a point of order during the discussion.

Kathi,Like i say, this is SENTIMENTAL yearning because women are sensitive… A mother Nurses her child – She is not nursing her child until it after it is born.Are you a MOTHER simply from being Pregnant?But nonetheless I stray into sentimental territory by arguing this point so i will leave off it.

Kathi, Kathi, IMPOSSIBLE “The Son that ALWAYS EXISTED AS A SON and the Father that ALWAYS EXISTED as A FATHER” – come one!!!To what purpose would there be an EVEREXISTING SON?How in HEAVENS CAN there be an EVEREXISTING SON.What would be the POINT of a Subordinate person eminating from the Superior ONE FROM EVERLASTING?No, Kathi, the SON PROCEEDS…[Read more]

Kathi, see I ask WJ two simple questions and it took two pages or ramblings and accusationa and counteraccusations to even get him to look at the questions – and then he asnswered some questions he devised of his own – nothing to do with what I asked him.So I wrote them out plain again – answering his question to me first – but even as yet he…[Read more]

No Kathi,The WOMAN is NOT a MOTHER until she 'drops' the Child.The woman is a 'Potential Mother' – said as “To be WITH CHILD”. It is SENTIMENT that makes us say “She is a Mother”…we are not dealing with human SENTIMENT here…The Man is not a Father until the child is born – See, we say “How is the FATHER-TO-BE” because men aren't fussy but to a…[Read more]

Mikeboll64,nice pleasantries….so you CAN BE NICE when you want something then…very good, very good.You are the most outrageous poster after WorshippingJesus but here you try to pass yourself off as an Angel.I'm sure t8 has taken note of your posts so this last post, pious as it sounds, has to be measured against the REAL MIKEBOLL64 as shown…[Read more]

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