Mike,I thought the thread topic was 'Is Jesus God the Father?'Has it changed?2:50am…Goodnight…

I think what I said about the one explicit question that must be answered and that answer must be accepted ideally supposedly meant that only the two debaters were involved.It has become a feature that I do not support where threads get off topic and that was what Moderators were supposed to manage (Amongst other duties)At one time a gentle word…[Read more]

Could you or Mike or anyone reading this thread give me a credible response anyway.The battery on my mobile is running out so please hurry…!

Hi SF,I didn't post to anybody in particular – it was an open question to everyone?Thanks.

Please can everyone see Mikeboll's post above with his BOLDED TEXT stating that he has asked the same question for 200 pages and never received an answer.Please let it be known that this is called 'being disingenuous' on Mikes part.!!Indeed, the question is not a question at all seeing that SPIRITS ARE IMMATERIAL.Immaterial matter do not need…[Read more]

Oh, and Mike, Angels are not Separated from God, God is IN THEM by his Holy Spirit.Demon Angels do not have GOD IN THEM by virtue of NOT HAVING THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM.Everything is WITHIN GOD but God is not IN EVERYTHING if that thing does not have HIS HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM.This means they that are without the Holy Spirit are condemned as mankind…[Read more]

Ooh, I don't have editing rights back yet so apologys…Angels Spirits have the 'Form' of SPIRIT as does God and Jesus for only Spirits inhabit the Spirit realm of Heaven.And SPIRIT is IMMATERIAL as any dictionary will tell you!And IMMATERIAL, as any dictionary will tell you, means 'Not composed of Material matter'…Seemples…[Read more]

Mike,You should run for Politician of the year!!Step backwards by step backwards until you step out the door – didn't you give in before …. ?And tell me that what you are really doing is conceding on ALL POINTS after giving one last futile punt claiming everyone in this forum believes Angels have 'Some sort of Form'.Mike, not one single person…[Read more]

Are God and Jesus different persons as the Apostles saw them such that they write:E.g. 1 Peter 1:3 'Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…'And 2 Peter 1:2 'Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of GOD AND OF Jesus our Lord'

Please can someone explain what is meant in Colossians 1:3 whereit is written:'We give thanks to the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ..'And also in verse 2 where it is written: 'Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ'.I mean, does it not state clearly:1) the Father as God2) Jesus as Lord3) God as Father to 'Us'…[Read more]

Irene,Please can you explain what 'By him all things consist' means.

Irene and all,Can you explain what it means that God 'Has appointed heir of all things'?Here are some leaders:1) Jesus was appointed … As Heir. When was he appointed heir?2) If Jesus was appointed as Heir because he overcame sin – the Sin of Adam – And Jesus did what Adam should have done (Jesus IS the Second Adam) What if Adam had not…[Read more]

Wispring,Read Mike's post. Like SF says, Mike cherrypicks as he pleases but accuses others of not answering HIM. Then, when he can't do anything more he does what he learnt from WJ and accuses me of 'Ad Hominem' towards him as a prelude to giving me a tile (He weeps like a small girl and gets the headmaster to give me a beating … Ps they never…[Read more]

Wispring,I forgot to answer your initial question.It is not necessary at all to know whether Spirits have bodies or not (and no one else but Mikeboll thinks that Spirits do as even the very word 'Spirit' means 'Immaterial').This thread, as you may gather from page 1, is due to Mike's misunderstanding which increased the more he tried to understand…[Read more]

Mike,The boundary of a physical object is not called 'a body' – it is called 'a Skin'.Can you define the boundary of the Wind?(p.s. If you bind the Wind does it not cease to be wind?)Does Water of itself have boundaries(Think carefully please)When Angels appear to mankind, in what Form and shape do they represent themselves?Do you believe they are…[Read more]

Wispring,Nice try… Not quite homogeneous in context and sounds too earthy and bound in physics.The latest scientific thinking dismisses GRAVITY in place of THE BENDING OF SPACE.Also, Angels ARE Spirits … The use of certain words used in certain languages adopted by today's common language needs to be taken into proper context.Angel is simply a…[Read more]

Hmmm… This thread is labelled 'Test' why?Seems to be getting 'TestY'!!!

Quote And thanks for bringing up another point.  If Jesus was EXALTED to a higher glory than the glory he left, how can that even be?  How can God Almighty be EXALTED higher than God Almighty?This is an interesting point…Can one of you, Mikeboll, WJ or KJ, expand on this? (How, if Jesus is God (even by Trinitarian claim: while in the flesh as M…[Read more]

Do not Judge:Do not judge to CONDEMNATION.That judgement is for God alone at the end if time through Jesus Christ.Please be reminded that we judge all the time – judgement is POSITIVE as well as NEGATIVE, so making a positive judgement or a negative judgement cannot alone be what was implied.The Godly judgement by man is one that leaves the other…[Read more]

Hi Kar,Exactly… Is that not WHY you only read certain posts??Wispring … My contribution to a personal testiment is visible from the coloured tiles under my name… The scars of my battle with the forces of darkness!