Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
To all,Revelation 20 speaks of the two resurrections.Revelation 14:1-5 speaks of the 144,000.Revelation 7 speaks of the 144,000.Please notice that Revelation should not be read beginning to end directly but is split backwards and forwards across it's chapters with parts repeated in greater or lesser degrees.Also, Revelations contains many many…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Terra, Gene,Thank you for your support.Terra, to answer your question:- The Spirit of An entity… IS 'The motivating force eminating FROM or WITHIN that (Entity)'The Motivating, actuating, enabling FORCE (Spirit) FROM/OF the Father IS a Holy Spirit – the ONLY precisely HOLY SPIRIT – also known as the SPIRIT OF TRUTH.Spirit of Truth: what Truth…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Guys,All believe what you will here.There are two resurrections:The first will be for those whose names are written into the book of life. They will be in heaven with Christ as his brothers and as heirs, princes to God the father.The second for those who do not attain to the first but are still believers who will be TESTED again under Satan's…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Jesus is the Son of GodJesus is the Son of the FatherIs Jesus the Son of two persons? No, just one!So, God AND the Father MUST BE that same personThe Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT of GODThe Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the FatherIs the Holy Spirit the Spirit of two persons? No, just one!So, God and the Father are that ONE person!There is GOD THE…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Addition to Terra's post:Why do we say 'God' and Jesus separately but never never never call Jesus 'God' not even Trinitarians call Jesus 'God' except when confronted by antiTrinitarians.And they, for sure, never call the Holy Spirit 'God' likewise.Why might that be? Because EVEN THEY know that it is wrong!Notice also that they NEVER WORSHIP the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Irene,It is true that Jesus, while in the flesh, could not be everywhere.That is why he had to go away so that the Spirit of Truth could come – sent by the Father!More precisely, given by the Father and sent by Son.(Sounds like Rev 1:1…)Now, the SPIRIT can beEverywhere… All at the same time… andIn All – All at the same time…
Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin and all,Please do not include yourselves in the 'WE' nor the 'US' as described in the Scriptures…Say instead 'They' and 'Them'.For the 'they, them, we and us' of the Scriptures are the Apostles, Saints, Elders and such as are called by God through Jesus whose names have been written in the book of life from the beginning…Including…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Those who attain the heavenly place will no need of a 'marriage' relationship as their whole direction of union will be upwads towards GOD and downward toward mankind.There will be no personal 'Love' – their love will be to ALL in equal measure.Those in Paradise may still be in union with their partner – but -….What if they were LAWFULLY…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Terra,Nothing you just said means anything agsinst what I said.You are simply fishing using metaphor. You cannot measure the weight of truth or lie on a physical measuring scale… That is called METAHPHOR… look it up!I have heard this argument before concerning 'God being in the wicked'… What are you asking to prove?Without God nothing can…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic When does the bio. father become the bio. father? in the forum View Points 13 years, 7 months ago
The problem with some is that they take analogy as a factual thing:Did Jesus mean that the kingdom of heaven really was a Mustard Seed?Can I suggest that analogies are kept as analogies and made to reality.Human birth is due to restriction of the flesh. Spirits do not have flesh so there is no restriction on their creation ( Note: Creation – not…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin,I wouldnt stress the 'Like the Angels' part too much.It's just a metaphor for saying 'A class of being that does not procreate'Mankind is made in the image of God – so constant reference to 'being like Angels' is to bring down the image of God to a level of blind servitude. This can hardly glorify God.The class of being that does not…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic For those of you who believe some will be on Earth in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
God made the earth to be occupied.The word went out of his mouth and will not return until it has been accomplished.Jesus came to redeem mankind and to finish the work that he gave to the first Man, Adam.Jesus, as Man in the flesh, fulfilled that word that God gave to Adam and his reward was to be taken up as TRUE SON OF GOD, as a Spiritual Son, a…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 7 months ago
And Jesus is NOW (After his resurrection from the dead) the “Eternal Son”…What type of Son was he before then?What 'Son' was he then 'from Eternity' or even 'From the Beginning'?
Istari replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 7 months ago
To add:One can say, 'You have been saying that same thing from forever'Clearly, the speaker did not mean to imply that the sayer has been living 'Forever' but just that (Sloppily) that the sayer has been saying what they are saying from such a time that no one can remember them saying anything different…'Was there a time (!) when you ever said…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 7 months ago
The term 'Beginning' means 'From when it began'.The term 'Eternity' means 'For ever'.Eternity can be 'from the beginning … Until For everMORE'So one can say, 'I will serve the Lord for eternity' but that does not imply that that service WAS from Eternity, from past, but from THAT MOMENT that the service began.'Beginning' naturally implies a…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic The Hypostatic union. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 7 months ago
Terra,This is true that you say.The Spirit of Christ is the radiance of the spirit of the father.What Jesus was on Earth was what Jesus was trying to get humanity to become.Therefore, if Jesus IS God, then those that attain the Spirit of Christ – will be also God!!This is an end point that is never broached because it would cause a backwash…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic When does the bio. father become the bio. father? in the forum View Points 13 years, 7 months ago
Kathi,Sorry to hear about the problems you are experiencing.May God have mercy on all and bring a speedy calm to the area.
Istari replied to the topic When does the bio. father become the bio. father? in the forum View Points 13 years, 7 months ago
WJ,Only a point of order:Why say someone was WORSHIPPED… then say 'He is worthy of Honor and Praise'Is not 'to be worshipped' greater than 'To be honoured and praised' – for we Honor and Praise even of our own – but we (are not to) Worship of our own?John won the Gold prize in many of his races. Yes, he even won the bronze in one race!Besides,…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic When does the bio. father become the bio. father? in the forum View Points 13 years, 7 months ago
I, too, agree with what Mike wrote (But it should be understood that He who brought all into existence was not Himself subject to that being brought into existence)Good post, Mike!
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 7 months ago
Terra,You well know that 'God IS Spirit'And His Angels are SpiritsSo the two answers are ONESpirits are a CLASS of BeingsAnd God Almighty, YHVH, is ONE Being from that ClassA single answer of 'Spirit' would not have sufficed as an answer as it would only have led to extended questions. This way the was therefore a short-circuit.
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