Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Kathi,When you trap yourself in the web – don't struggle – it only traps you more…You know well that what I said was truth…You well see your error – that what you said was what I said you said even though you didn't realise that was what you were saying… But now you do know!What does t8's footer say:'He who learns of his error but continues…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
WJ,'Everyone has a right to their opinion' – yes – if 'opinion' is what it is!
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
WJ,'Everyone has a right to their opinion' – yes – if 'opinion' is what it is!
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Mediator, in this context, is not concerning two equal warring parties who cannot reach a satisfactory outcome over an issue.No, this is one who, like a language expert, hears one thing from one source and translates it to another for the ears of the other of higher rank.Like a lawyer speaks the common words of the defendant in the eluquent…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Mediator, in this context, is not concerning two equal warring parties who cannot reach a satisfactory outcome over an issue.No, this is one who, like a language expert, hears one thing from one source and translates it to another for the ears of the other of higher rank.Like a lawyer speaks the common words of the defendant in the eluquent…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Even Jesus in Heaven – we are to Pray to the Father Through Jesus, the Son.Always, TO the Father…And where has ANYONE WRITTEN A PRAYER To The Holy Spirit?Why not? Because even staunch Trinitarians know NOT TO DO THAT…They know it is a Sin – so even while pretending to, or even claiming to, they NEVER ACTUALLY DO So…WJ, I have asked you…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Even Jesus in Heaven – we are to Pray to the Father Through Jesus, the Son.Always, TO the Father…And where has ANYONE WRITTEN A PRAYER To The Holy Spirit?Why not? Because even staunch Trinitarians know NOT TO DO THAT…They know it is a Sin – so even while pretending to, or even claiming to, they NEVER ACTUALLY DO So…WJ, I have asked you…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
WJ,Why does Scriptures say that we should worship the Father Only?And where does it say that we should worship Jesus?And where does it say we should worship the Holy Spirit?And where in Scriptures does Anyone worship the Holy Spirit?And where in Scriptures is Jesus Worshipped?Come to think of it – What IS WORSHIP?Jesus on earth was a Man – wasn't…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
WJ,Why does Scriptures say that we should worship the Father Only?And where does it say that we should worship Jesus?And where does it say we should worship the Holy Spirit?And where in Scriptures does Anyone worship the Holy Spirit?And where in Scriptures is Jesus Worshipped?Come to think of it – What IS WORSHIP?Jesus on earth was a Man – wasn't…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Keith,Excellent Trinitarian diatribe – I have a similar book – it might even be the same one.I underlined several errors on EVERY PAGE where the author had twisted Scriptures to get round clear references.Everything written in your quote has been refuted over and over – so bringing it to the table counts for nothing. It was false from the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago
Keith,Excellent Trinitarian diatribe – I have a similar book – it might even be the same one.I underlined several errors on EVERY PAGE where the author had twisted Scriptures to get round clear references.Everything written in your quote has been refuted over and over – so bringing it to the table counts for nothing. It was false from the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Kathi,As has already been said to you: 'Everything came from God', so then, in your words, 'Everything was BEGOTTEN from God!This includes all Angels who are also SONS OF GOD.And Man is the Image of God – and SON OF GOD (If they have the HOLY SPIRIT)So Jesus then is NOT the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD for God BEGOT ALL LIVING SENTIENT…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
IS,I don't confuse anything with anything – however and whatever title you give it the outcome is the same: There is ONE GOD (YHVH) and One Lord (Jesus).The Holy Spirit is 'of the Father' (who is God, YHVH) and does not come into the equation.Check the greetings from the Apostles – do they mention the Holy Spirit? Why not if it is part of the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,What you have done is to so over analysed the word and term 'God' that it has taken on a secondary meaning all of it's own.In the beginning there was only one who was GOD.He did not have a name – per se – for there was no need.If there is only one of a thing then it's title will suffice ( The Boss – the King – The God… Boss, King, God)Then…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,NO – I do not agree…Simple word substitution does not work here in context.Your tenet is that 'God' or 'Mighty One' are equivalent to 'Almighty God'.The 'Gods' that are Angels – where does Scriptures say Angels are Gods? – of which only SATAN is spoken of – and WHY? because he is one of the Angelic PRINCES of Heaven – of which he is the One…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,You – even you, gave an example of the HOLY SPIRIT that came in BODILY FORM down onto Jesus.If the Holy Spirit ALWAYS HAD a BODY why would it particularly worthy to say say so.Do you say 'I went in bodily form to my workplace'If I influence a large number of people to do something do I not say 'My HAND a far reach!' but was it my physical…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,It seems that you are continually making up things and then claiming them as offerings from others.Neither Shimmer nor I has said that Jesus has a body in Heaven. You are just saying that to try to cause ridicule. I have repeatedly stated that the body is materialised when the Spirit comes into the physical world – either you have a…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 13 years, 6 months ago
Mike,'God in the Flesh' has two connotations:1) God Almighty transformed himself into a flesh body2) The 'Glory' of God was in a flesh bodyTrinitarians try to use (1) as 'proof' that Jesus IS GOD… but can easily and simply be shown to be wrong seeing that Jesus said that no one has seen God.(Oh, please, don't bring up Philip and Thomas… The…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Should members be tiled for avoidance? in the forum About Believers Place 13 years, 6 months ago
SF,Thanks but thought we all knew that – is Mike saying that there were Almighty Gods in Pharoah's court under the orders of Pharoah who played silly magic games?These people were MAGICIANS – says so in my NKJV Bible and so does EVERYONE else that has ever written about that i know of!Yep – clearly says 'Magicians' …
Istari replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
Point of order: 'As God'
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