Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
Kathi,Then what value are you bringing to us – for ALL mainstream CHURCHES proclaim to be serving God thtough Christ – and so they should – what exactly are you telling us?It's like saying that sunshine is warming – or that water is wet!
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,Question answered?The problem IS YOURS, my man.Your question is also STUPID… why would anyone seeking the glory that he was shown by his master not also want to partake of that which his master also partook?Having understood, by divine revelation of Christ, what the Spiritual Body of Christ was, why would Paul not be anxious to partake of…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
The Spiritual BodyBy David PylesIt is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. – 1Cor 15:44Unfortunately, there are some who misuse this scripture in argument against a bodily resurrection, and some will say that, even if there is a bodily resurrection, this scripture does not…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Spirit (Spir”it) (?), n.1. Air set in motion by breathing; breath; hence, sometimes, life itself. “All of spirit would deprive.” Spenser. “The mild air, with season moderate, Gently attempered, and disposed eo well, That still it breathed foorth sweet spirit.” Spenser.2. A rough breathing; an aspirate, as the letter h; also, a mark to denote…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,I don't get you at all.Why are you so stubborn over understanding such a simple thing?You are playing a silly game with yourself trying to oppose me (and yet NOT ME – but Truth) just for the sake of it.The more you rant on in this silly dispute of deliberate misrepresentation the more you devise divisive fallacies… Be careful!!!Spirits are…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,Now we know what BODY is – what then do you make of 'BODY: As opposed to Spirit'?If a Body is that which is bounded in three dimensions and is composed of material matter – then what is Spirit?Mike, give me definition of SPIRIT and BODY…
Istari replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 5 months ago
Mike,I have explained and explained – it is your way of saying 'Ok, I have lost but cannot admit it'In fact, nothing of what you say makes sense.You know and admit that a body cannot exist in heaven.Yet you try to say that it is so – that a Spirit HAS A BODY – even hands, feet, eyes, wings, carry swords and there are chariots and horses in heaven?…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
The Holy Spirit is the active force of God…It is given by God to Jesus to use as he wills, to give unto whom he desires, yeah, unto those chosen out of the world by God before the world began and given to Jesus.And it does not speak of itself but only takes of that which is of Jesus (Given to him by God).So the AUTHORITY of the Spirit is only…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 04 2011,07:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2011,13:34)Quote (Istari @ June 01 2011,12:48)Oh, WJ, we have been through this – why do you keep bringing up what has already been laid to rest!'In the NAME OF' means 'In the Authority Of/by the authority of'!JASo what is the difference? The point is Jesus assigns the…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Justaskin vrs worshippingjesus in the forum Debates 13 years, 5 months ago
WJ,What IS THE NAME of the Holy Spirit?
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
Keith,You defend what you do not know!You are an expert at creating diversion!Kathi is making claims of godliness by stating what OTHERS have done.You state that being in the assembly of such makes Kathi one such also.I state that just being in the assembly DOES NOT automatically make her 'as of' the assembly as shown by the two examples.ThAT WAS…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
…error: last line -:'Kathi DOESN'T SAY THAT SHE DOES THOSE THINGS – just that OTHERS did!'
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
And Keith,Judas also assembled himself in the twelve with Jesus!And Satan also assembled himself with the Sons of God!Kathi does say that SHE did any of those things – just that OTHERS did!
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
If Jesus is God then how is his Name glorified by God – and then Glorified again?That would mean that Jesus is GREATER THAN GOD – but wait… He IS GOD… aarrggghhh…..it does not compute!!!!!Jesus was raised to a greater position than being GOD!!!Jesus becomes the HIGH PRIEST of God – but he IS GOD!!!Jesus becomes the Mediator between God and…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
T8,Kathi has jumped off the cliff of wisdom – and as such I have given up discussing the matter with her.It is clear she has entrenched herself so far from truth and reality that nothing anyone (of mankind) says to her will move her – only God can move her!She must cry and weep every time she makes a post knowing she is wrong but being forced by…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
When Jesus said 'You have neither heard His voice nor seen His form' he was speaking to the hard-nosed people.'Heard His voice' means 'to receive His Godliness' 'For everyone who hears the word of God does the works of God'! ('My sheep hear my Voice' John 10:27, literally – so would that mean that the people Jesus was speaking to couldn't hear…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
Also, Kathi, what kind of nonsense are you writing by saying God could not be God without the Son?The Father could not be the father without the Son.It is evident in itself that there is no father without the Son!Not one single person argues against that – your point is twisted to create your own delusion.Before the Son was there was ALWAYS…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 5 months ago
SF,I said I didn't understand what you said because I didn't understand what you said…As you have now explained then it makes some kinda sense.Also, I said 'Yes, the father is not a father until he has a Son'Kathi is so far off the scale of delusion and misunderstanding that it is unreal and she is scary!I agree that God was not always a father…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
SF,Before there was a Son there was no Father!Yes, for there to be a Son there must be a fatherYes, for there to be a father there must be a SonA Son comes from a Father – for the Son to come from the Father there first must be HE WHO IS NOT YET A FATHER…Who WAS HE from Whom the Son came?If Jesus is the SON OF GOD, then the one from who the Son…[Read more]
Istari replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 13 years, 6 months ago
1) Jesus is the Son of God, YHVH, The One True God2) Jesus is the Son of the Father, YHVH, the One True God.: The Father is the One True God
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