Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2011,11:51)Quote (Baker @ April 02 2011,17:48)Pierre!  yes, He is the Father….. But that really don't belong here, does it?Peace IreneIreneso according to you ;if the doctor fertilize you with the sperm of your husband ,the doctor is the father of your child is that what you are telling me   answer this and i will s…[Read more]

Pierre! yes, He is the Father….. But that really don't belong here, does it?Peace Irene

Gnostic then and now….taken from the internet.  There are several Article on this.  I looked for one that explained what they believed what Jesus was to them….here is what they believe…. Christ: The role of the redeemer in Gnostic belief is heavily debated at this time. Gnostics seem to have looked upon Christ as a revealer or liberator, r…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Mar. 25 2011,18:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,04:54)Irene………..You do not believe Jesus came into existence as a Human being , you believe he was a there as a disguised Past existing being just as the Gnostic's did, the only difference is that you think he was “Morphed” into a human being from a past existence, While…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2011,15:26)Irene,Providing my memory is correct, if Gene is sticking to the teaching from John then he is labeling the doctrinal tenet you believe in to be from the Anti Christ.  He also included the Trinity tenet in that label.I do not believe he is calling you an anti Christ.I also believe you understand the scripture…[Read more]

1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam a quickening spirit.…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 01 2011,14:42)Woah! Is this an expression of a dose of the Holy Spirit manifesting in this thread? A little understanding, a little love, a little compassion, a little mercy? I sure like to believe it is. May all of Jesus Christ dwell in your heart and mind. May all of God's love be made manifest in your life. God willing.…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 01 2011,07:06)To all posters on the thread – Can we take a break here, to recoup our souls?I perceive there is a certain modicum of hostility rearing its head, mostly because of doctrinal differences, which should not have the power we give it.I am working on my responses to several posters, so bear with me for a little…[Read more]

HALLELUJAH PRAISE GOD1 Sing unto the Eternal, sing your Praises to Him, Put your trust not in mortals, for in tghem is no help. CHORUS Hallelujah praise God, The Eternal shall reign, He shall reign for all ages, our King and our God.2 Sing unto the Eternal, give your praises to Him, He it was, who made…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 31 2011,04:17)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 31 2011,03:13)Jhn 8:58   Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.  When you take verse 57 makes it clear, when the Jews asked Jesus. I know that I am is somewhat vague, but because of verse 57 I can understand it…..Our German Bible explains it b…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 29 2011,12:32)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 29 2011,19:10)Not all will be the elect.  And the Jewish people always were Gods People.  The 144 thousand will be the Elect whether you like it or not.  Pierre you are right as far as Romans is concerned.  We had a good Bible Study some time ago and they will be grafted in.  Also the mult…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Mar. 28 2011,21:24)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 26 2011,17:26)For one thing, the 144000 are all Israelite's.Rev 7:4   And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.  And, what do you thing it means to have the Father's name w…[Read more]

Paladin! Then John 1:14 is wrong according to you/ Psalm 138 was written before they had the Bible. I do wonder if it could be talking about Jesus, because He is The Word of God. There are just to many Scriptures for me to ignore that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation. Col. 1:15 and Rev. 3:14 tells us so. I find to just reason it away…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2011,16:10)Irene:You wrote:Quote Kerwin!  Gene always disagrees with the preexisting of Jesus, but never gives Scriptures why he thinks so.  And I also ask you to give Scriptures of why YOU don;t believe so.  Anybody can say I don't believe.  But they have no credibility if they give no Scriptures what soever.  Peace Irene I…[Read more]

TO GOD BE THE GLORYTo God be there glory great things He had done.So loved He the world that He gave us His Son, Who yielded His life an atonement for sin,And opened the lifegate, so all may walk in. RefrainhPraise the LORD, praise the LORD. let the earth hear His voice,Praise the LORD, praise the LORD, let the people…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 29 2011,15:44)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 28 2011,02:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 26 2011,09:26)Irene………What i said is the belief of Preexistences, is the SPIRIT of ANTICHRIST and if the shoe fit wear it. Do you believe Jesus came into “EXISTENCE AS A HUMAN BEING” no you do not believe he did COME INTO (EXISTENCE) AS A HUMAN…[Read more]

kerwin! You give 1Cr 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear . When a person gets tempted we are not tempted to the point that we cannot get out of a…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 29 2011,21:07)Hi Irene.Regarding Sheppard of Hermas,You quoted;Quote Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 29 2011,23:00)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 29 2011,12:49)Hi Paladin,   Quote Jesus is not the personification of the logos.So, more precisely, the logos is personified in Jesus. When a saint relenquishes his/her life pattern to Jesus's life pattern this makes:Quote Mark 8:35 (King James Version) 35For whosoever will save his life…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 29 2011,12:12)Hi Paladin,   Quote Jesus is not the personification of the logos.So, more precisely, the logos is personified in Jesus. When a saint relenquishes his/her life pattern to Jesus's life pattern this makes:Quote Mark 8:35 (King James Version) 35For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall…[Read more]