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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 20:33:25 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p>&#8220;AndrewAD. …So to you truth dosen’t have to make any sense?&#8221;  And just where did I say or insinuate that? I think it was Nick who said logic is uselessness not I.</p>
<p>So Satan,virgin birth and preexisting sons of God are all illogical to you so you just dismiss them from your theology and then say those who believe these things from the bibl&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443264"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/129/#post-831975" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:18:21 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So according to you being spiritual is not logical?</p>
<p>or the bible is only logical when it makes sense to you?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:10:23 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,</p>
<p>&#8220;God is the Father of Adam.<br />
Jesus is a son of Adam.&#8221;</p>
<p>So all people are by creation sons of God even as Paul said in quoting a Greek poet &#8221; For we are also his offspring&#8221; Acts17:28</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:02:42 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should Scripture always be according to logic?</p>
<p>Is Scripture logical?</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic  in the forum Preexistence</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 18:50:48 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What anointing was Jesus speaking by when<br />
Jesus was 12 and teaching in the Temple?</p>
<p>Good point Ed, Jesus must have been a little presumptuous when he said &#8221; I must be about my Father&#8217;s business&#8221; since he hadn&#8217;t been baptized yet.</p>
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				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/128/#post-831957</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 18:02:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>” How is it that a human in the FLESH can be a Son of God? ”</p>
<p>How is it that preexisting Sons of God can copulate with mortal women and produce giants? Does anyone think they&#8217;ve figured that out? this sounds rather &#8220;Greek and pagan&#8221; too.</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/128/#post-831954</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:34:05 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve drawn a line in the sand so to speak declaring all who disagree with your interpretations as fallen huh? Are you the second or third coming of Elijah maybe? or Muhammed declaring &#8220;say not trinity&#8221;!?  Will Babylon fall today and Armageddon begin here on this internet site?</p>
<p>Perhaps just you and Jodi and maybe Nick can enjoy a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443243"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/128/#post-831954" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/128/#post-831951</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:07:24 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jodi,</p>
<p>You ask &#8221; How is it that a human in the FLESH can be a Son of God? &#8221; The verses in Lk 1:34,35 that we were discussing answer this plainly as I pointed out to you.  35 And the angel answered and said unto her, <strong>The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee</strong>, and the <strong>power of the Highest</strong> shall <strong>overshadow thee</strong>:<strong> therefore</strong> also that <strong>holy thing which shall&hellip;</strong><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443240"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/128/#post-831951" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2018 16:45:45 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edj,</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you claiming the bible is in error since the lineages are different?&#8221; it&#8217;s quite clear from what is written that both lineages claim to be of Joseph and yes as LU pointed out Luke&#8217;s version is supposedly of David&#8217;s son Nathan,but the promise of the throne was specifically through Soloman- 2 Sam7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443100"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/126/#post-831791" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2018 16:20:57 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jodi,</p>
<p>You quote Lk1:27-33 and you say&#8221;<em> He SHALL BE called the Son of the Highest because he will on a certain DAY be BORN of God,</em>&#8221; But why don&#8217;t you go on to vs 34,35 to see what your bible says?  &#8220;Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443099"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/126/#post-831790" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2018 16:30:36 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ed,</p>
<p><span>Lk 3:23 <strong>And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli</strong></span></p>
<p>The term (as was supposed),the son of Joseph makes clear that Luke&#8217;s lineage of Jesus is also through Joseph just as Matthew&#8217;s version. There&#8217;s nothing there to suggest that Joseph is the father of Mary&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-443027"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/125/#post-831702" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2018 05:04:39 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodi,</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Jesus had the DNA of Joseph that is precisely what Matthew tells us</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is precisely <strong>not</strong> what the author of Matthew tells us for if Jesus were Josephs biological child-from his own loins so to speak,then why did he contemplate &#8220;putting her away privately&#8221;? An angel had to come to him in a dream and tell him that the child conceived&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-442992"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/125/#post-831667" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Mikeboll&#039;s belief in a flat world in the forum View Points</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/85/#post-830563</link>
				<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:13:17 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p><em>What would you think is the reason, for this waste of time?</em></p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s interesting, it&#8217;s something to think and talk about if one so desires. It shows that there are a lot of unanswered questions about our universe and planet. And we shouldn&#8217;t always just assume we know things that we may not. Even if the world is round/ a globe there&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441709"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/85/#post-830563" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:58:22 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jodi,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;He does NOT acknowledge that he has a kingdom,&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Jesus uses the word IF, this is NOT showing that he acknowledges that Beezlebub is real&#8221;<br />
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<p>When Jesus asks Matt 12 &#8220;26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?<br />
27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441708"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/giving-heed-to-doctrines-of-demons/page/10/#post-830562" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The last generation will only hear things that “tickle their ears&#034; in the forum View Points</title>
				<link>http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-last-generation-will-only-hear-things-that-tickle-their-ears/page/4/#post-830449</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:24:38 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I just saw the next page. So you think I am in support of the money grubbers huh? Did I ever say I was? I asked you pertinent questions on faith and you give the exact same speil as they do which is why I brought it up.</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The last generation will only hear things that “tickle their ears&#034; in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:13:59 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p>Had you sent your money to one of the televangelists and then sent them your testimony they may have used it to boost their ministry and then you&#8217;d really be convinced they were of God. That&#8217;s how the propaganda works but the majority of people who send their money can&#8217;t even afford to pay their bills. They know this and prey upon them with&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441598"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-last-generation-will-only-hear-things-that-tickle-their-ears/page/4/#post-830448" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 10:57:36 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beelzebub as used in the gospels is just another name for Satan or the devil, and Jesus certainly acknowledges him by saying he has a kingdom. Why was Jesus anointed by God to heal those oppressed of the devil if the devil is only doing God&#8217;s will? Jesus makes it plain that the devil has a kingdom that is in opposition to God&#8217;s by saying if Satan&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441597"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/giving-heed-to-doctrines-of-demons/page/6/#post-830447" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Mikeboll&#039;s belief in a flat world in the forum View Points</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/85/#post-830446</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:28:27 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Satan is trying to get us to focus endless hours of our time on this smoke and mirrors, garbage, we have undeniable proof, ton of proof, that proves the earth is indeed round.</em> &#8221;</p>
<p>But Gene according to your theology Satan is only doing God&#8217;s will  to show forth his righteousness correct? Don&#8217;t blame the devil! 🙂</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 17:21:05 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jodi,</p>
<p>Mark 1: 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: 11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.  In Mark&#8217;s account of the Baptism the voice declares Thou art my son, and in the other synoptics it&#8217;s similar&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441272"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/104/#post-830061" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:02:08 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodi,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point about Mark 1- it being after the forty days where Jesus was in the wilderness being tempted by Satan,and John&#8217;s preaching about a greater one coming-although Jesus isn&#8217;t specified. So it makes sense if the demons met him in the wilderness. And I was thinking &#8220;right after&#8221; in terms of in Mark chapter 1. I freely admit&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441267"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/104/#post-830056" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 08:24:59 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the preexistence of Jesus Christ makes no sense if he became the Son of God or Christ at his baptism, so it stands to reason that his baptism was only  his inauguration into his public ministry. If Jesus were sinless what need had he to be born again or baptized? and it&#8217;s right after his baptism in <strong>Mark 1:24</strong> the demons cry out- &#8220;Saying, Let&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441261"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/104/#post-830050" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Mikeboll&#039;s belief in a flat world in the forum View Points</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/75/#post-830049</link>
				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 06:15:41 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AndrewAD. …Now you say Paul walked by blindness which he calls faith? My are you ever out on a limb. You mean Paul, the man that was blinded by the light on the way to Demasus, and heard the voice of Jesus spezking to him, the one who saw one mirical after another,&#8221;</p>
<p>But Gene you know there is no proof that any of the miracles in the bible h&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441260"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/75/#post-830049" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The last generation will only hear things that “tickle their ears&#034; in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2018 05:49:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So called Christanity loves to get their ears tickled, that is why those lying televangelist are making billions of dollars, tickling their folowers ears, while the decieved give buckets of money to them&#8221;</p>
<p>But what is the favorite verse of the televangelists you speak of?  <strong>Mal 3:10</strong> Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441259"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-last-generation-will-only-hear-things-that-tickle-their-ears/page/3/#post-830048" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Mikeboll&#039;s belief in a flat world in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 22:27:53 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Gene, I wasn&#8217;t necessarily backing up the flat earthers but simply commenting on your qualifiers for interpreting scripture or&#8221; scriptural truth&#8221;.  I do believe the earth is round but if it is flat it really doesn&#8217;t effect my life or thoughts, or faith too much.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 22:11:15 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace and love to you and yours. …gene</p>
<p>Thanks for the peace and love Gene! 🙂</p>
<p>So yes let&#8217;s look at what those verses in Heb 11 say. Now faith is the assurance of the things hoped for, the conviction(evidence) of things not seen.</p>
<p>Faith is conviction,that is the evidence of things not seen. You think you have evidence the world is round because y&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-441238"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/74/#post-830023" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2018 16:33:33 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;tons of evidence available, why should we think you are capable of any scriptural truth? &#8221;</p>
<p>Since when does scriptural truth require any evidence, isn&#8217;t it about faith?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 02:29:05 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind response as well and the vids concerning satellites. I take it you agree with many of the conspiracy theories out there. Do you listen to Alex Jones? I used to quite a bit but he&#8217;s on while I&#8217;m working now. I don&#8217;t buy into a lot of the theories but enjoy listening to him when I can. And I&#8217;ve got a program I just&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439979"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/67/#post-826494" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 01:31:16 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t making any argument for or against gravity T8 but if gravity is a law then Jesus certainly broke it if he physically flew away above the clouds.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 01:27:00 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psalm 104:5-9 He established the earth upon its foundations, So that it will not totter forever and ever.</p>
<p>Isaiah 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.<br />
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439975"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/66/#post-826489" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2018 01:00:11 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many preachers like to say the&#8221; laws of nature&#8221; and various &#8220;spiritual laws&#8221; are God&#8217;s laws when no such things are found in the bible and these same people claim to be sticklers for the Word. Some even say God doesn&#8217;t break these laws yet if these are laws and the bible is to be believed then certainly he does. Did God break the law of gravity by&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439968"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/66/#post-826482" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2018 02:56:05 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T8-<em>Could be a fly on the lense?</em></p>
<p>Lol !  or a demonic space booger</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2018 02:33:29 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike I just saw your answer to David about the space station but what of the people who say they can see it with a telescope? Just what is it they are really seeing if it&#8217;s not that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2018 02:25:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read on the net that the ISS can be seen with a telescope and the astronaut with Ham in the vid I do believe to be sincere. I don&#8217;t doubt that men have been to space/earth&#8217;s orbit or that the earth is round, but for various reasons I do have doubts about the moon landing. If the video you put up with the man from NASA is for real,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439675"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/52/#post-826143" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2018 14:23:39 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodi,</p>
<p>1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to <strong>seducing spirits</strong>, and <strong>doctrines of devils</strong>;     Why use this language if spirits/devils are not able to seduce or teach? To seduce is to be allured, tempted, enticed, charmed, ensnared etc.All of which the devil t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439613"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/giving-heed-to-doctrines-of-demons/page/3/#post-826078" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2018 15:51:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for the video on those Christian astronauts. Interesting thing is, you never really hear about Christian Evolutionists, although knowing how crazy this world is there are probably a few.<br />
Mike, why are there Christian astronauts who concur with the current scientific view? They have a testimony and it is not very polite to write them all&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439502"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/43/#post-825966" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Giving Heed to Doctrines of Devils in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2018 02:33:22 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodi,</p>
<p>The doctrines of devils ITim refers to are stated in the passage as forbidding to marry and abstaining from certain foods. Various sects throughout Christian history have advocated such rules even partly based on teachings of Jesus and Paul themselves concerning marriage. It&#8217;s claimed here that these are doctrines of, from or by devils&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-439297"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/giving-heed-to-doctrines-of-demons/#post-825737" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2018 00:26:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been several years ago that I looked into geocentric theories and it talked about the experiments you&#8217;ve brought up along with a debunking of Einstein,though they didn&#8217;t hold to a flat earth theory many of the things you&#8217;ve brought up are the same in that they don&#8217;t believe the earth is spinning.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also watched some of the moon&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438813"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/17/#post-822903" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:57:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we live on a Flat Earth, then it seems preposterous that all these people are keeping the conspiracy against it alive and for what. Imagine the resources needed to keep people from the Flat Earth theory. You would need the Antarctic Department, Math Department, Science Department, The Sky Police, the Propaganda Police, the Telescope Iron Dome&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438721"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/13/#post-822807" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The last generation will only hear things that “tickle their ears&#034; in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2018 11:30:48 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus was often specific about a certain generation with descriptions that are pretty close to these days more than any other.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes Jesus was specific about a certain generation but in the context of those descriptions is the destruction of the Jerusalem of his own time. The descriptions are closer to his own time than any other. And Jesus was&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438720"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-last-generation-will-only-hear-things-that-tickle-their-ears/page/3/#post-822806" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:00:03 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;That’s a misleading translation. First of all, we can’t be sure that YHWH even means “I am”</em>&#8221; Right and I wasn&#8217;t making any point to Nick about Jesus saying I AM or being Jehovah but rather that Jesus was the one who of himself said it. I just usually quote the KJV since it&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve used the most.</p>
<p>Some translations say Before Abraham&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438436"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/78/#post-822495" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:11:57 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike I much agree with you about the bible acknowledging the existence of other gods especially in the OT; in the NT these are all referred to as demons.</p>
<p>The story of the exodus is about Yahweh defeating the gods of Egypt and Pharaoh&#8217;s magicians perform miracles like Moses and Aaron even.</p>
<p>Exodus12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438422"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/78/#post-822479" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:07:42 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes when Jesus says &#8220;verily,verily I say unto you before Abraham was I am&#8221; it&#8217;s very clear it&#8217;s Jesus not the Father saying it. &#8220;I say unto you&#8221;, if he were speaking as a prophet he would say God says unto you or thus saith the Lord.</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Mikeboll&#039;s belief in a flat world in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2018 23:30:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes people used to be forced to recant, tortured, or put to death for not believing such things. Thank God neither the church nor the bible are so infallible anymore.</p>
<p>If Satan is behind the heliocentric theory I wonder what kind of game God and Satan were playing back then? Which one said&#8221; hey I bet you I can get that fellow to recant&#8221;, or &#8221; I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438377"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/flat-earth/page/3/#post-822443" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The last generation will only hear things that “tickle their ears&#034; in the forum View Points</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:45:46 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8221;tickles the ears&#8221; of many Christians is hearing they are the last generation, but every generation including Jesus&#8217;s has been.</p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:11:00 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to wonder how God can be said in the OT to make the blind and deaf and mute and curse people with all manner of sickness and disease yet in the NT these things appear in most instances to be the work of the devil. And how can the earth be the Lord&#8217;s and the fullness thereof yet the devil has been given the kingdoms of this world and can&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-438253"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-serpent-in-the-garden-of-eden/page/38/#post-822327" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2017 10:34:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jodi,</p>
<p>I read a few of your posts and I understand and agree that if God can&#8217;t keep his heavenly sons then he can&#8217;t keep mere men either.I even heard a sermon years ago by a preacher harping against the&#8221;once saved always saved&#8221;doctrine which he based on this very subject of fallen angels.He was saying that one could go to heaven and because of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-435516"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/are-the-sons-of-god-the-angels/page/9/#post-819474" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>AndrewAD replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News &#038; Eschatology</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2017 09:54:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds to me like they are still trying to pin a conspiracy with Russia on him. Tbh I don&#8217;t pay that much attention but I&#8217;m glad we got him over Hillary.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2017 09:27:32 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Jude 1:6 when it speaks of the angels who left their first estate,is not the meaning clear that they left their heavenly/spiritual state for a fleshly one so they could cohabitate with women. So either these beings were spirits who of their own will could become flesh or they were flesh from the beginning and just descended from above the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-435514"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/are-the-sons-of-god-the-angels/page/9/#post-819472" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2017 06:55:23 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard there is a betting line in Las Vegas on whether Trump will be impeached within his first year as president and they have the odds at over 50%. If he were to be impeached would that mean he wasn&#8217;t chosen by God? or perhaps like Saul he was chosen by God then rejected?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2017 00:48:35 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like to say the sons of God in Gen 6 were angels instead of  acknowledging them as gods.These were the sons of El or his counsel of gods-the&#8221;us&#8221;who made man in their image. And they must have been very manlike indeed to have sex with women just like the Greek gods from Olympus and the book of Enoch even says they taught men arts and crafts&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-435392"><a href="http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/are-the-sons-of-god-the-angels/page/5/#post-819269" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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