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Hi t8,
As some questions do in fact seem obvious to all that only a simple yes or no answer is warranted, this is not the case to all yes or no questions.
THUS the below is TRUE,
It is of the opinion and perception of the person who asks a yes or no question, if that question should be answered strictly with just a yes or a no.
The person answering that question in their opinion and perception may not agree that particular question deserves just a simple yes or no answer, and so in all sincerity they feel the need to add an explanation.
It is ONLY IN YOUR MIND based on your OWN OPINION that the question should just be answered with a yes or a no, and when they don’t answer according to how YOU see fit, you turn to all sorts of slander against the person, no matter what the actual CONTENT and scriptural support is given in their answer. You turn and assume and then accuse that the person must be dishonest, scared, a deceiver, just because they didn’t answer a question as to how YOU in YOUR OWN MIND saw fit that it should be answered.
I say this because you did in fact treat me in this manner, the CONTENT and scriptural support was ignored and you accused me of being deceitful because in YOUR OWN MIND by YOUR PERCEPTION I should have given just a yes or a no, and because I didn’t I was accused by you as being a deceiver.
The LORD thankfully is MY WITNESS to my heart and to the SINCERITY of my answer, and at the end that is ALL that MATTERS.
t8, when someone doesn’t answer a question with a simple yes or no when you believe that is all that is needed, it is WRONG, totally UNCHRISTIAN for you to decide based on that alone that the person must be scared and dishonest, or a deceiver. The CONTENT of the explanation can tell you in fact if the person is sincere and being transparent, or if they are just trying to hide. You should reply to that CONTENT accordinly, and not just turn and say, “well you didn’t give just a yes or a no, so your just a dishonest and scared person”.
As some questions do in fact seem obvious to all that only a simple yes or no answer is warranted, this is not the case to all yes or no questions.
Already been discussed at length. This is why we ask that the question has to be fair. It seems you guys are either not paying attention, or you have the desire to not be completely forthcoming and so are using every delay tactic in the book.
I believe that an honest person has no problem answering a yes no question and they can tell a fair or non-fair question immediately. It is not rocket science.
But it is funny how you guys will discuss the merits or non-merits on yes no questions at length, but are unable to just say yes or no to a fair question.
My view is people prefer darkness or anything that they can hide in regarding the light.
And I put my money where my mouth is. I have no problem answering yes or no questions. I am not afraid to be tested and not afraid to tell people what I really believe. And if I am wrong in the process, then I have the chance to be corrected and thus I have made progress. A win win for me.
But for people who do not want to change, well they will consciously or unconsciously do everything to remain in denial.
t8,
When a person provides explanation to their yes or no answer they are being ALL THE MORE TRANSPARENT with you, by such you can decide all the more if they are full of bull, or if they actually have merit to their answer.
It is EASY, pathetic even in some cases, to just give a SIMPLE YES OR NO. For those who have the ability and take the time to explain in detail as to the WHY of their YES OR NO, such just equates to them being all the more authentic and legitimate in their yes or no answer.
Most assuredly you CAN EASILY HIDE behind a simple yes or no answer. But you can be assured that once you have given an explanation to your yes or no, there is no hiding behind that.
Gene said:
Did Jesus come in the flesh?, yes, he certanily did he came into his, only existence, as a flesh being and still is a flesh being.
According to scriptures Gene you are wrong.
He came down from heaven and then returned to where he came from.
And how could he be still a flesh being when he is spirit?
How could he be here and there at the same time if he was still a flesh being?
Is Jesus the King and saviour and Lord in your life leading and guiding You? Is he not also here with me and somewhere else in the world (in millions of places) healing and saving?
T8……well then, did Jesus say, he was “alive” before Abraham, yes, no, please. Lets see how “honest” you are.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Miia…..Jesus came down from heaven , “IN THIS SENSE”, he was GOD’S PROPHETIC WORD “FULFILLED” IN HUMAN FLESH, THE MAN JESUS, who never existed before he came into his “only” existence as a human being, and is the “root and OFFSPRING” of King David, that is if you “truly believe”what he himself said.
MIIA…..God is spirit and he is holy and he can and does exist “in” flesh humans. Via his spirit, but none of that makes the man God is in, a God himself. Don’t fall for the “lie” , preached by false christanity. Doesn’t scripture say, your bodies are the temple of the Living God. Jesus said over and over that The Father was “in” him, he never said he was a God of anykind.
It saddens me Miia, I thought you knew better.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Miia……Jesus said he was not a spirit, even after he was resurrected. Luk 24:32
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
Hi Miia,
I agree with Gene as well.
The LORD said that He didn’t make earth and man in vein, He made earth to be inhabited.
He also said that He created man in His image, and Jesus IS the Son of Man, called a New Man, a Last Adam (HUMAN).
Jesus IS the Son of Man that sits at the LORD’S right hand.
Jesus IS the Son of Man returning among the clouds in glory.
Jesus says himself after he was raised from the dead that he IS the root and offspring of David in the book of Revelation.
The LORD did promise that He would make David’s son into His own Son, and that he of the tribe of Judah would sit on an eternal throne.
Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
I will just leave it at this for now, though there are many many more scriptures and points I could make.
T8……well then, did Jesus say, he was “alive” before Abraham, yes, no, please. Lets see how “honest” you are.
Before Abraham, I am is one such place.
Gene and Jodi,
It is clearly obvious that Jesus was not the Father and I don’t think most Trinitarians are saying that. Jesus prayed to the Father in heaven, Jesus said the Father was greater than him. The Father was in the son through the spirit of the Father. But together they were one – the Father in heaven, the son on earth and the holy spirit of the Father. We also may be one with them though it is hard because unlike Jesus we can sin badly and sin seperates us from God. Do you understand this?
Secondly, have you felt the presence of the son in your life? I have, and his presence has been felt by probably millions, and more. At the time he was not a flesh being or a ghost – he was spirit (1 Cor 15:45, 2 Cor 3:17). He is active in the world and is the word of God who was with God and was God because when you experience the son you have experienced the Father. The son said ‘if you have seen me you have seen the Father’.
>>So please tell me – have you experienced the presence of the son?<<
Father son and Holy Spirit are one it all makes sense to me now.
One in unity. The Father and the Son are one. Believers should also be one and one with both the Father and son. All one in God’s Spirit.
Trinity is misleading because it stipulates only 3 as one but then also confusingly states but each is 100 percent God. It is a made up doctrine.
“I and the Father are one.” needs to be understood in its true context like any other verse is.
I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message, that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me. I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one…
The Father is the one true God and Jesus Christ is his Son and the one whom God sent into the world to save souls.
Hi t8,
Here is a Yes or No question for you, and I don’t mind if you want to EXPLAIN your answer so that you can be as transparent as possible as to the REASON behind your answer.
Yes or NO
Was the promise in the below verse of God before the world was?
Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. 23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
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T8…..Jodi gave you a good question, yes, no, please , and she will except an explanation also, how can you lose?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Miia…..there is only one God, and he is spirit, and being “spirit” he can indwell any human he so chosen to. REMEMBER WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS, “THERE IS “ONE” GOD, AND “ONE” MEDEATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN “THE MAN” JESUS CHRIST (the anointing ted one) . There is no “trinity”, as GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, GOD THE SPIRIT . There is only one true Spirt of God, and he in us and we in him have our being, the exact same thing applies to Jesus. We are his brothers and sisters in the LORD, OUR GOD.
I believe what you felt was the spirit of “God, the Father” giving you peace, remember what Jesus said “my peach I give you”, the peace Jesus had was from the Father, “not from himself”.
You are very blessed to experience that Miia.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
I see the question.
Was the promise in the below verse of God before the world was?
Not sure. Could be. Certainly God had a plan of salvation before the world, that is what I think.
It seems inevitable that there was always a plan given free will and eternity.
As for the specifics, these could be more recent rather than before the world. So a plan of salvation and then specifics later to enact the plan late.
Like anything. In WWII, there was a plan to stop the NAZIS, then details were decided later on.
T8……if Jesus was before the foundations of the earth as scripture says, then the answer has to be, yes. But you have cleverly found a way out. So the saying is true “it’s hard to catch a rabbit in a byire path”. You simple refuse to see that JESUS CAME INTO HIS (only real) “EXISTENCE” THROUGH THE SEED OF KING DAVID. as CLEARLY WRITTEN. Bad form brother. You still are half way out, but fail to come all they out. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
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