Who Is The Remnant Church

[GeneBalthrop]

Carmel…….Go back and read what you wrote then, see if even one scripture anywhere in our scriptures says , that “Jesus had ever “Seen” God.   Please don’t leave out the word “SEEN” ,  AS YOU HAVE DONE IN YOU LAST POST.  Trying to work scripture to fit your personal beliefs is a deception and a twisting of our scriptures which you see to do every time you post them.
scripture says that “NO MAN’, has seen God” . I believe that includes the “MAN” Jesus also.

YOU SEE, I don’t have to change anything to push my views,  I simply just believe what it says.

peace and love to you and yours Carmel……….gene

[Berean]

Gene

For once, show goodwill. The Holy Bible tells us that Jesus was with the Father BEFORE THE WORLD WAS. WE ARE NOT THE INVENTING.

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which👉 I HAD WITH THEE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.👈(John 17:5) 

In the name OF Jesus , Amen!

[carmel]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel…….Go back and read what you wrote then, see if even one scripture anywhere in our scriptures says , that “Jesus had ever “Seen” God.   Please don’t leave out the word “SEEN” ,  AS YOU HAVE DONE IN YOU LAST POST.  Trying to work scripture to fit your personal beliefs is a deception and a twisting of our scriptures which you see to do every time you post them.

Gene, WHY DIDN’T YOU CUT AND PASTE IN ORDER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.

Here is all my last post:

So please be specific, as I don’t know what you’re talking about:

 

Continue from my last post

John5:36 But I have a greater testimony than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to perfect; the works themselves, which I do, give testimony of me,

that the Father hath sent me.
37And the Father himself who hath sent me, hath given testimony of me:
neither have you heard his voice at any time,

nor seen his shape. 
OBVIOUS JESUS DID! NO?

ANSWER MR. Gene: ACCORDING TO YOUR CARNAL MENATLITY,

DID JESUS SEE GOD THE FATHER IN RESPECT OF THE ABOVE?

38And you have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him you believe not.

39Search the scriptures, for you think in them to have life everlasting; and the same are they that give testimony of me. 40And you will not come to me that you may have life.

41I receive glory not from men. 42But I know you, that you have not the love of God in you.

43I am come in the name of my Father, and you receive me not:
YOU: if no man ever saw God the Father, then that would include,  “the Man”, Jesus too. 

WITH THE SAME ARGUMENT AND YOUR SIMPLE LOGIC, THERE ARE OTHER MEN WHO CAME IN THE NAME OF GOD THE FATHER, SINCE JESUS IS A MAN LIKE ALL MEN! NO? 

CAN YOU FROM SCRIPTURE  NAME ANY PLEASE?

if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. 44How can you believe, who receive glory one from another:

and the glory which is from God alone, you do not seek?
Gene, ANSWER: HOW CAN JESUS NEVER SAW HIS FATHER,

IF JESUS HIMSELF IS THE GLORY FROM GOD ALONE?

YOU: YOU SEE, I don’t have to change anything to push my views,  

I simply just believe what it says.

ME: NOWHERE IN SCRIPTURE Gene, SIMPLY SAYS THAT JESUS NEVER SAW GOD!

SO HOW ON EARTH DO YOU CONCLUDE THAT JESUS NEVER DID SEE GOD?

 

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

 

 

[GeneBalthrop]

Carmel… again us show a single scripture that says the “MAN” Jesus, himself said he has “SEEN”  God?  

Jesus has “disclosed” him through  his words to us,  just as all the prophets have,  but none have seen him and that includes , the “man” Jesus,  God is a Spirit, And Spirits can’t be seen, that is if you “truly ” believe Jesus Christ, like you say you do. The Father is a Spirit and was abiding in Jesus Christ, Just as he does “in” all his children .  But I doubt that you can really understand that.

peace and love to you and yours…….gene

 

[carmel]

Hi Gene,

You: Jesus has “disclosed” him through  his words to us,

ME: NO Gene, YOU ARE SIMPLY A HARD HEADED PERSON WITH A HEART OF STONE

AND SIMPLY BLIND I’M AFRAID, WITH EVERY RESPECT!

JESUS REVEALED THE FATHER THROUGH HIS UNIQUE PERSON!

John14:9 Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? Philip,

he that seeth me seeth the Father also.

How sayest thou, Shew us the Father? 10Do you not believe,

that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

 just as all the prophets have,  but none have seen him and that includes, the “man” Jesus,

Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Phanuel, saying:

I have seen God face to face,

and my soul has been saved.

You: YOU SEE, I don’t have to change anything to push my views,  

I simply just believe what it says.

ME: WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY ABOVE?

God is a Spirit, And Spirits can’t be seen,

1Samuel 28:13 And the king said to her: Fear not: what hast thou seen? And the woman said to Saul:

I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

14And he said to her: What form is he of? And she said: An old man cometh up, and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul understood that it was Samuel, and he bowed himself with his face to the ground, and adored.

2Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder: for Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

that is if you “truly ” believe Jesus Christ, like you say you do

Me: YES, I DO BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST!

Luke 24:37 But they being troubled and frightened,

supposed that they saw a spirit.

SPIRITS CAN BE VISIBLE Gene, BUT

NOT LIKE JESUS!!!

THEY ARE WITHOUT FLESH AND BONES!

38And he said to them: Why are you troubled, and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39See my hands and feet, that it is I myself; handle, and see:

for A (NORMAL) SPIRIT hath not flesh and bones,

as you see me have.

NOW BACK TO THE TRUTH Gene, 

John1:18 No one has seen God at any time.

The only begotten Son,

who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

 

Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father,

and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son,

and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

 

John8:55 And you have not known him,

but I know him.

And if I shall say that I know him not, I shall be like to you, a liar.

But I do know him,

and do keep his word.

John 17:25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You,

but I have known You;

and these have known that You sent Me.

YOU: simple logic should tell you that,  if no man ever saw God the Father, then that would include,  “the Man”, Jesus too.

Answer Gene,

IN VIEW OF THE ABOVE,

WHAT DOES SIMPLE LOGIC TELL YOU?

 

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

 

[sonofGod]

Basically, those who continue to believe

[Proclaimer]

Simple and true sonofGod.

[Nick]

Jas 2

“whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.”

Berean boasts that the SDA is the remnant church. This group espouses the trinity falsehood.!

How unwise to expect that human groupings can be part of the plan of God.

[Nick]

What does simple logic tell you Carmel?

Why would you rely on the mere useless wisdom of men?

 

 

[Nick]

Of course the SDA baptises in the name of the trinity just like Catholicism does.
When they heard this they were baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid hands upon them the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying. Acts 19.6f

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