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- April 14, 2012 at 7:04 am#292181Ed JParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:14) Hi ED,
You say
“Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!”
Why do you ADD TO the Word of God by inserting your opinion about the KJV?
Hi Nick,For purposes of clarification through illustration.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 14, 2012 at 7:05 am#292182Ed JParticipantQuote (kerwin @ April 14 2012,11:21) Quote (Ed J @ April 13 2012,20:39) Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2012,16:11) Ed, You are correct about the Septuagint. The 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs' are older than the Textus Receptus by 10 centuries or so, and therefore more likely to be more reliable. Never the less your quote came from the later Textus Receptus. Is it also in one of those earlier codexes?
Hi Kerwin, (Link)The 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs' do not agree with each other, and as
a matter of FACT both are closer in agreement to the “Textus Receptus” than to each other.
The Nestle Text was a blending of these two texts into one altered Greek version by the Catholics.
It was done in an attempt to compete with the “Textus Receptus” as an alternate version of God's truth.The “Textus Receptus” (also called the received text) was a compilation of all the Greek texts that were being
circulated in the churches into one a master copy. The “AKJV Bible” was translated from this Greek “Majority Text”.Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
God bless
Ed J
Ed,It sounds like you are claiming that the AKJV is more accurate than The 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs'; from which it descends. That is quite a claim.
Hi Kerwin,The Nestle Text was a Greek blended text of 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs', from which the N.I.V descends.
The “AKJV Bible” was translated from the “Textus Receptus”; which was a master copy of the Greek Majority texts.
Both the N.I.V. and N.A.S.B. are good translations, but of the wrong Greek text, as the Nestle Text is corrupt.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 14, 2012 at 7:32 am#292187NickHassanParticipantQuote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,18:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:14) Hi ED,
You say
“Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!”
Why do you ADD TO the Word of God by inserting your opinion about the KJV?
Hi Nick,For purposes of clarification through illustration.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi ED,
Addition is not clarification.April 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm#292220mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,20:30) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2012,13:15) Why is that, Nick? Did Jesus get such a huge dose of “the word” that it up and changed from a guiding spirit into a human being?
Hi MB,
He was given the Spirit without measure.
That changed a weak man into EMMANUEL
So the other prophets, to whom the word of God came, remained men while the word remained spirit. But the most recent prophet was filled WITH so much of that spirit that the spirit actually BECAME a man and was no longer a spirit of God?Is that what you're telling me?
April 14, 2012 at 3:57 pm#292226terrariccaParticipantQuote (terraricca @ April 14 2012,13:49) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,13:20) Quote (terraricca @ April 14 2012,05:28) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,12:11) Quote (terraricca @ April 14 2012,03:55) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:39) Quote (kerwin @ April 13 2012,16:11) Ed, You are correct about the Septuagint. The 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs' are older than the Textus Receptus by 10 centuries or so, and therefore more likely to be more reliable. Never the less your quote came from the later Textus Receptus. Is it also in one of those earlier codexes?
Hi Kerwin, (Link)The 'Codex Sinaiticvs' and the 'Codex Vaticanvs' do not agree with each other, and as
a matter of FACT both are closer in agreement to the “Textus Receptus” than to each other.
The Nestle Text was a blending of these two texts into one altered Greek version by the Catholics.
It was done in an attempt to compete with the “Textus Receptus” as an alternate version of God's truth.The “Textus Receptus” (also called the received text) was a compilation of all the Greek texts that were being
circulated in the churches into one a master copy. The “AKJV Bible” was translated from this Greek “Majority Text”.Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
eddyQuote Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.WHY WOULD IT NOT BE GREEK ???
PIERRE,One does not preclude the other.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edso would French,English,German,and,,,,,and ,,,,, and ,,,,
PIERREYes the “AKJV Bible” was indeed translated into all those languages!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjand what would THE FRENCH VERSION WOULD BE CALLED ??
edju are full of old air ??
April 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm#292248Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,18:32) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,18:04) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:14) Hi ED,
You say
“Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!”
Why do you ADD TO the Word of God by inserting your opinion about the KJV?
Hi Nick,For purposes of clarification through illustration.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi ED,
Addition is not clarification.
(5=2+3)Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five
in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.April 14, 2012 at 7:24 pm#292283NickHassanParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2012,02:09) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,20:30) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2012,13:15) Why is that, Nick? Did Jesus get such a huge dose of “the word” that it up and changed from a guiding spirit into a human being?
Hi MB,
He was given the Spirit without measure.
That changed a weak man into EMMANUEL
So the other prophets, to whom the word of God came, remained men while the word remained spirit. But the most recent prophet was filled WITH so much of that spirit that the spirit actually BECAME a man and was no longer a spirit of God?Is that what you're telling me?
Hi MB,
Thank you acknowledging that the same Spirit of Christ, the WORD came to the prophets.No it is just a matter of Spirit baptism with the Son of God. He was filled with the Spirit and given the fulness. No previous prophet had been so blessed. The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.
The prophets sought from the Word in them to know things but were unable to[1peter 1] but with Jesus full knowledge and every aspect of God and all power at God's disposal was given to a man transforming him – such that theJews said
“God has visited His people”
That same baptism in the Spirit is shown to be promised to us in Lk 24. All remain men. God from His mercy, chooses human vessels so He can share eternity with them.
April 14, 2012 at 7:48 pm#292296terrariccaParticipantN
Quote That same baptism in the Spirit is shown to be promised to us in Lk 24. All remain men. God from His mercy, chooses human vessels so He can share eternity with them. sins when do God need men for anything ?
April 14, 2012 at 7:54 pm#292299mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,13:24) No previous prophet had been so blessed. The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. That same baptism in the Spirit is shown to be promised to us in Lk 24. All remain men.
The question is not whether the recipients of this spirit remain men, Nick. The question is whether or not the spirit BECAME a man in any other case but Jesus'.And if this spirit IS now a man (since it BECAME one according to you), then how is this spirit still around to fill others with God's word?
April 14, 2012 at 8:20 pm#292312NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Again you are confused.
1 Tim
“…the man Jesus Christ..”
Jesus never stopped being a man just because he was anointed as the Christ at the Jordan.Do you not grasp that Jesus told his brothers that he would return to them?
He came to them as the Spirit at Pentecost.
The man is still in heaven.April 14, 2012 at 8:24 pm#292316terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,14:20) Hi MB,
Again you are confused.
1 Tim
“…the man Jesus Christ..”
Jesus never stopped being a man just because he was anointed as the Christ at the Jordan.Do you not grasp that Jesus told his brothers that he would return to them?
He came to them as the Spirit at Pentecost.
The man is still in heaven.
Nshow scriptures??,if you can not ask EDJ
April 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm#292336Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ April 15 2012,07:24) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,14:20) Hi MB,
Again you are confused.
1 Tim
“…the man Jesus Christ..”
Jesus never stopped being a man just because he was anointed as the Christ at the Jordan.Do you not grasp that Jesus told his brothers that he would return to them?
He came to them as the Spirit at Pentecost.
The man is still in heaven.
Nshow scriptures??,if you can not ask EDJ
April 14, 2012 at 9:57 pm#292341mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,14:20) Hi MB,
Again you are confused.
1 Tim
“…the man Jesus Christ..”
Jesus never stopped being a man just because he was anointed as the Christ at the Jordan.
Rather, once again it is YOU who is confused, Nick.1 Tim
“……the man who DIED…” – past tense. Jesus was indeed a man when he died on the tree.1 Cor
“……the last Adam became a life-giving SPIRIT”April 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm#292346NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Yes Jesus died but the Spirit gave him life again.
Now that Spirit gives eternal life to his brothersApril 15, 2012 at 1:19 am#292408mikeboll64BlockedAnd those of his brothers who will dwell with him in heaven will have new, glorious, spiritual bodies. They will no longer be human beings, as human beings consist of flesh and blood.
April 15, 2012 at 3:27 am#292436terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,16:09) Hi MB,
Yes Jesus died but the Spirit gave him life again.
Now that Spirit gives eternal life to his brothers
Nwas it not God his father that resurrected him ?
April 15, 2012 at 4:57 am#292446NickHassanParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2012,12:19) And those of his brothers who will dwell with him in heaven will have new, glorious, spiritual bodies. They will no longer be human beings, as human beings consist of flesh and blood.
Hi MB,
Will they dwell in heaven?
Is it written?April 15, 2012 at 3:11 pm#292482terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,22:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2012,12:19) And those of his brothers who will dwell with him in heaven will have new, glorious, spiritual bodies. They will no longer be human beings, as human beings consist of flesh and blood.
Hi MB,
Will they dwell in heaven?
Is it written?
N144k go to heaven
April 15, 2012 at 3:55 pm#292495mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,22:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2012,12:19) And those of his brothers who will dwell with him in heaven will have new, glorious, spiritual bodies. They will no longer be human beings, as human beings consist of flesh and blood.
Hi MB,
Will they dwell in heaven?
Is it written?
Yes Nick,This is why the dead will be raised in spiritual bodies. This is why Paul yearned for his lowly, earthly body to be transformed into a new, glorious body like the one Jesus now has in heaven. It is because the citizenship of the elect will be in heaven.
Do you think that none of the resurrected will dwell in heaven?
April 15, 2012 at 4:15 pm#292502GeneBalthropParticipantTo all………..”For the meek shall inherit the EARTH”. God shall make his tabernacle among MEN on the EARTH. know you not that your “BODIES” (ARE) the Temples of the “LIVING GOD” Many do not know that IMO
peace and love…………………………………………………………gene
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