When Jesus became the Anointed of God

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,00:13)

Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,16:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:20) Hi T, There is no division in Christ 1 cor 12. You can be like him if you are led by his Spirit. N are you part of the called ones ,or more the elect ones ? Hi T, There is no division in Christ.

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no division in the truth but all are not called to heaven ,only 144k go to heaven ,do you not read scriptures

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,18:06)

Hi ED, Yes the work of the sanctifying Spirit in the sons of God makes them perfect in the eyes of God and they join His whole family. That pure church comes back to the renewed earth with the Lord [inseperable from his God] from their place with them and they will be forever here.

Nick and Ed j………I concur with that brothers.

peace and love to you both……………………………………gene

[terraricca]

Quote (terraricca @ April 12 2012,10:30)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,00:13) Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,16:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:20) Hi T, There is no division in Christ 1 cor 12. You can be like him if you are led by his Spirit. N are you part of the called ones ,or more the elect ones ? Hi T, There is no division in Christ. N no division in the truth but all are not called to heaven ,only 144k go to heaven ,do you not read scriptures

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Jn 16:5 “Now I am going to him who sent me, yet none of you asks me, ‘Where are you going?’
Jn 16:6 Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief.
Jn 16:7 But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
Jn 16:8 When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
Jn 16:9 in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me;
Jn 16:10 in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer;
Jn 16:11 and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
Jn 16:12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.
Jn 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

is this for you

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You say
“only 144k go to heaven ,do you not read scriptures”
Yes I do and I have not found that yet.
Show me,

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,22:30)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 12 2012,00:13) Quote (terraricca @ April 11 2012,16:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,23:20) Hi T, There is no division in Christ 1 cor 12. You can be like him if you are led by his Spirit. N are you part of the called ones ,or more the elect ones ? Hi T, There is no division in Christ. N no division in the truth but all are not called to heaven ,only 144k go to heaven ,do you not read scriptures

Pierre,

Have you looked into numeric symbolism yet?

[kerwin]

Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,09:14)

Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2012,09:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,12:48) Hi Kerwin Like what? God bless Ed J Ed, 1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV) 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. There is no “the Lord” in the Greek Hi Kerwin, 1Cor.15:47 ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γῆς χοϊκός, ὁ δεύτερος ἄνθρωπος ἐξ οὐρανοῦ 1Cor.15:47 The first man on earth, earthen, the second man from heaven Please explain how specifically you believe that the meaning or intent has been changed to mean something different; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   PS. Do you have anything else?

Ed j.

The first Adam is the flesh man while the second Adam is the spirit that gives life to the flesh.

Adam is treated as two men in order that his creation be used as a teaching tool.

Some point at the passage to justify their doctrine that Jesus is made of spirit, even though Jesus is not mentioned in it. The KJV erred by putting him in it.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
Yes the second man [adam] the first man of the new creation, has become for us the source of the eternal life giving Spirit. He can be known by his brothers in that Spirit.

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2012,08:38)

Quote (Ed J @ April 11 2012,09:14) Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2012,09:36) Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,12:48) Hi Kerwin Like what? God bless Ed J Ed, 1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV) 47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. There is no “the Lord” in the Greek Hi Kerwin, 1Cor.15:47 ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γῆς χοϊκός, ὁ δεύτερος ἄνθρωπος ἐξ οὐρανοῦ 1Cor.15:47 The first man on earth, earthen, the second man from heaven Please explain how specifically you believe that the meaning or intent has been changed to mean something different; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   PS. Do you have anything else? Ed j. The first Adam is the flesh man while the second Adam is the spirit that gives life to the flesh. Adam is treated as two men in order that his creation be used as a teaching tool. Some point at the passage to justify their doctrine that Jesus is made of spirit, even though Jesus is not mentioned in it. The KJV erred by putting him in it.

Hi Kerwin, I made a mistake, it is in the “Textus Receptus”.

1Cor.15:47 ο πρωτος ανθρωπος εκ γης χοικος ο δευτερος ανθρωπος ο κυριος εξ ουρανου.

1Cor.15:47 The first man on earth earthen the second man the Lord from heaven.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Jesus the Nazarene was of the first creation.
Jesus Christ is the beginning of the new creation in the Spirit.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Paul followed him into the new creation.
Gal 6
” 15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

16And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God”

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The second Adam makes us new creatures by sharing the Spirit with us

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

[toby]

Hi Shimmer.
You said:

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(Eventually MAN puts Himslef (sic) in the temple of God (The temple is the body/the self) and makes – who?  Himself, out to be God.

Yes, some people desire there to be Human Gods so that they can call themself one.

It is clear there are ones that are CALLED Gods as meaning 'having power and authority over others' – BUT it is also clear that these are not in the same category as Almighty God.

There can be no such thing as a GOD as in being like Jehovah as 'There can only be ONE who holds all power and authority'. This ONE is 'THE GOD' – all others are 'so-called Gods' who OBTAIN their power and authority from a source.

(Where do stone Gods get their power – certainly not from themself – but what mankind has infused in them).

I think some people have some alterior motive for desiring 'Gods' other than the true ONE God – Jehovah.

A god must be worshipped – is there anyone here who would (or who already has) taken up worshipping these (so-called Gods) in Heaven and on Earth against the strict warning by the 'Jealous God', Jehovah?

Best to understand and have fear! Do not call another person or thing 'God' with reverence else you belittle the Almighty God – Jehovah.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Jesus Christ knew he had been anointed for service.[lk 4.18f]
It was not before or at his birth

[mikeboll64]

Toby,

We know that in America, the President of the United States is the “only true President”.

But what about the president of Microsoft, for example?  Is he now a “so-called president”, or a “false president”, just because he's not THE President?

There are no such terms as “so-called god” or “false god” in the whole of scripture.  These terms were added into scripture in order to FORCE the Bible to conform to more current understandings of the word “god”.  We today insist (unscripturally) that “god” refers ONLY to the Omniscient Creator of All Things.  And since we today insist upon this unscriptural understanding of the word “god”, then we today had to FORCE the other gods mentioned in the scriptures into being “false gods”, or “so-called gods”.  And that is why you see those terms in more recent translations.  But trust me, I've searched each current use of “false god” and “so-called god” in the whole Bible, and neither of those terms are used in the Hebrew or Greek texts.

In scriptural terms, Satan is truly a god.  He is not a “false god” or a “so-called god”.  He is a god, plain and simple.

Does that mean we who serve Jehovah are to worship him?  NO.  Does it mean that Satan is the One who created all things?  NO.  Does it mean that, since I accept the Biblical usage of the word “god”, and accordingly follow scripture by calling Satan a god, that I am recommending he be worshipped by anyone?  NO.

Consider that even while David was TRULY the King of Israel, Jehovah was still the “only true King” Israel had.  It doesn't make David “fake”, or “unrighteous”, or a “so-called king”.  Me calling Jehovah the “only true King” Israel has ever had is simply an EMPHATIC way of placing Him above any other kings – it is not to be taken LITERALLY, as if Jehovah is LITERALLY the only King who has ever existed.

Jehovah is the God OF gods, Toby.  Surely He is not the God of wooden and stone idols.  Surely He is not the God of man's imagined gods.  So surely titles such as “God OF gods”, and “God ALMIGHTY“, and “God MOST HIGH” make it clear that there DO exist other gods.  And as Paul says in the God-inspired scriptures, some of those gods are in heaven, and others are on earth.

Jesus is one of those many gods who is back in heaven now. Satan is one who has (presumably) been banished to earth by now.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB
You say
“Jesus is one of those many gods who is back in heaven now.”
Really?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,21:20)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,11:06) Hi, Lk 4 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me  [WHO?] because He has anointed me [WHO?] to preach the gospel to the poor” The servant in action. Hi Nick, Good Post!

Hi Ed,

Since you liked that post, perhaps you will answer these questions that Nick ignored:

Who said those words first, Nick?  And did the Word actually “BECOME FLESH” when it spoke through that one?  Did that one dwell on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son?

Or was Isaiah not a true servant in action?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,20:24)

Hi MB You say “Jesus is one of those many gods who is back in heaven now.” Really?

Let's think it out, Nick:

1. IS Jesus back in heaven right now? YES.

2. IS Jesus called a god? YES.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Once again you show that logic is your true foundation

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,

You say
'Who said those words first, Nick? And did the Word actually “BECOME FLESH” when it spoke through that one? Did that one dwell on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son?”

Do you not understand prophecy?
The Spirit was in the prophets but none had the fullness of the Spirit.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2012,13:28)

Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,21:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2012,11:06) Hi, Lk 4 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me  [WHO?] because He has anointed me [WHO?] to preach the gospel to the poor” The servant in action. Hi Nick, Good Post! Hi Ed, Since you liked that post, perhaps you will answer these questions that Nick ignored: (1)Who said those words first, Nick?  (2)And did the Word actually “BECOME FLESH” when it spoke through that one?  (3)Did that one dwell on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son? Or was Isaiah not a true servant in action?

Hi Mike,

1) I assume you mean the words in Nick's post, that would be Isaiah.

2) Yep, this occurred “AFTER JORDAN” (Acts 10:38) and “AFTER THE TEMPTATION” (Luke 4:1-17)! (John 1:14)

3) The glory as of yet was only in the only begotten of the Father, but the same
    glory of “The Word” was to be later revealed in us as well. (see Romans 8:18)

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the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14)
compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. I already know how you are going to 'clip' my post.

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