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- May 21, 2015 at 10:47 am#798083ProclaimerParticipant
God made Jesus both Lord and Christ.
But that does not mean that he did not exist in the form of God, empty himself, come in the flesh, die for humanity, and rose to the right hand of the Father and in the same glory he had with him before the Cosmos.
If I left the place of my origin and took nothing with me, came to the USA ,started all over gain and eventually was made the president, (illegal I know), then does that deny any authority, power, or glory that I had in my homeland?
No. Unless you have proof, you are in the realm of speculation.
He existed in the form of God, or with God’s nature, emptied himself, took on flesh, and is now back where he was before the cosmos began which is at the right-hand of the Father in glory.
May 21, 2015 at 10:52 am#798085AndrewADParticipantThanks T8 for that answer,spoken as a true Arian indeed!
May 21, 2015 at 10:55 am#798087AndrewADParticipantThat is the Christ preexisted as that angel or godly spirit that later became the mere man yet ascended to be an even higher being when declared to be the Son Of God by the resurrection and spirit of holiness.
May 21, 2015 at 11:13 am#798088NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Do you believe Jesus Christ is the WORD?
May 21, 2015 at 11:19 am#798090NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
When John spoke in 1 jn 1.1-3 of seeing and hearing and touching THE WORD was he speaking of seeing, hearing and touching JESUS CHRIST?
May 21, 2015 at 11:26 pm#798146ProclaimerParticipantWell the Word became flesh would to my eyes be equated to Jesus coming in the flesh.
Those that deny Jesus came in the flesh are of the Antichrist spirit.
So if the Word became flesh, and Jesus is different to the Word because Jesus is the flesh, then what became flesh came in the flesh?
May 22, 2015 at 6:23 am#798177NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Jesus did not exist till he was conceived so what does coming in the flesh mean then?
In 1 Jn 4 it says
” Every spirit that confesses that JESUS CHRIST has come in the flesh is from God”
That is my confession.
We no longer speak of Jesus CHRIST according to the FLESH – but you seem to be stuck in that mode
May 22, 2015 at 7:03 am#798178NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
How can a man come in the flesh?
How can a man only anointed at the age of 30 come in the flesh?
It sounds a similar question to the one that Nicodemus posed about returning to the womb to the Lord Jesus.
It is not possible. Man is of flesh by his very nature.
The WORD was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.
Heb 2 tells us HE PARTOOK OF FLESH. He had to be made like his brethren.
This speaks of the WORD OF GOD THAT IS LIVING AND ACTIVE Heb 4
The Spirit of Christ.
May 22, 2015 at 3:37 pm#798227NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
1Cor 15
“..The first Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening Spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual but that which is natural; and afterwards that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth; earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven”
So Jesus was a normal man. The natural came first. He was not a quickening Spirit but was made so. Now he is the Lord from heaven.
May 23, 2015 at 7:09 am#798266NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
So if Jesus Christ is the Word
and the Word was made flesh
Jesus Christ came in the flesh
May 26, 2015 at 10:25 am#798432NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Is Jesus Christ the WORD?
May 28, 2015 at 11:33 am#798506NickHassanParticipantHi,
Mt 10.40
He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives Him Who sent me.
Spiritual unity
May 30, 2015 at 7:23 am#798607NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Is Jesus Christ the WORD made flesh?
May 31, 2015 at 9:56 am#798675NickHassanParticipantHi T*,
John touched the WORD. 1Jn1
Was he speaking of touching Jesus Christ?
June 2, 2015 at 4:07 pm#798802NickHassanParticipantHi t8,
Did the Holy Spirit speak through the mouth of Jesus Christ?
June 4, 2015 at 8:40 am#798868NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jesus Christ is not Michael, one of the chief angels.
Men are not angels.
June 4, 2015 at 2:09 pm#798884NickHassanParticipantHi,
Christ is the Word made flesh
The flesh contributes nothing
June 4, 2015 at 2:11 pm#798885NickHassanParticipantHi,
It is no longer I that liveth but Christ that liveth in me.
Paul followed Jesus Christ.
June 4, 2015 at 2:25 pm#798887NickHassanParticipantHi,
The declarations Jesus made about himself were of the Spirit within him.
The flesh contributes nothing.
June 6, 2015 at 3:57 am#798965carmelParticipantThe flesh contributes nothing.
Nick,
Respect scriptures!
WHEN WILL YOU BE HONEST AND PRODUCE SCRIPTURES NOT YOUR TWISTED WORDS?
Hereunder is regarding the word CONTRIBUTE:
Contribute (4 Occurrences)
Romans 12:13 contributing to the needs of the saints; given to hospitality.
(See RSV)2 Corinthians 9:7 Let each contribute what he has decided upon in his own mind, and not do it reluctantly or under compulsion. “It is a cheerful giver that God loves.”
(WEY)2 Kings 15:20 Menahem exacted the money of Israel, even of all the mighty men of wealth, of each man fifty shekels of silver, to give to the king of Assyria. So the king of Assyria turned back, and didn’t stay there in the land.
(See NIV)Nehemiah 10:32 Also we made ordinances for us, to charge ourselves yearly with the third part of a shekel for the service of the house of our God;
(See NAS)Hereunder is the actual meaning of the word CONTRIBUTE:
con·trib·ute (kən-trĭb′yo͞ot)
v. con·trib·ut·ed, con·trib·ut·ing, con·trib·utes
v.tr.
1. To give or supply in common with others; give to a common fund or for a common purpose.
2. To submit for publication: contributed two stories to the summer issue.
v.intr.
1. To make a contribution: contributes to several charities.
2. To help bring about a result; act as a factor: Exercise contributes to better health.
3. To submit material for publication.NOW MY SIMPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING JESUS “THE WORD” MADE FLESH ARE,:
DID JESUS’FLESH BODY CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING FOR OUR SALVATION, WHEN HE MASSACRED IT, AND POURED ALL HIS ENTIRE BLOOD ON EARTH?
COULD THE SPIRIT BE MASSACRED?
NEVER MIND HIS BLOOD POURED!!!!
The declarations Jesus made about himself were of the Spirit within him.
PLEASE,PRODUCE JESUS’DECLARATION SCRIPTURALLY IN BLACK ON WHITE!
THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE ANSWER FOR SURE!!!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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