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DavidH,
I believe that Jesus, as the Son, exists in a place of equality with the Father…He is with God – He is God…(one in complete unity)
I do not understand how someone who claims to believe in Scripture because Jesus stated that the Father is his God. The is no equality there as no one is equal to their God.
So I am hearing you call Jesus a liar because you are claiming that his Father is not his God.
Your irrational on this subject so you probably have some outlandish explanation which I really do not want to hear as I have heard too many outlandish explanations from those who do not want to come out into the light.
Maybe I should just have a conversation with an alcoholic who will argue he is not an alcoholic while he sits in front of me thoughtlessly swilling more alcohol. It would be no different than many of the conversations I having here lately.
I see no Spirit working.
Kerwin
You are so right the scripture will say: Romans 8:34English Standard Version (ESV)
34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
The disbeliever says no he is God and interceding for himself…..drunk with nonsense
Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more; and I will write upon him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from My God, and I will write upon him My new name.How can a person not see Jesus calling someone his God, and if Jesus has a God that is the God that should be Worshiped as God.
Hi bd,
The books of Paul are addressed to the saved. Check chapter 1
So Jesus is not interceding for the heathen masses
bodhitharta,
You make some good points and there are many more that can be made but these human have chosen to embrace the irrational by condemning reason to human beings. In doing so they condemn Paul, who reasoned often, even though they claim to listen to him.
Nick,
I believe you mean those “that should be saved” (Acts 2:47 and 27:20)
He is willing to teach even the heathen.
God was in him reconciling the world to himself.
Nick,
John 20:21 He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.
SO THE FATHER SENT JESUS WITH HIS UNIQUE OVERALL FULL POWER GOD GLORIFIED
AS MAN ON EARTH!
ON HIS ENEMIES PLANET! WITH A NEW NAME!
JESUS CHRIST FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!
WHILE HE IS HAVING HIS REST!
NOW LET’S READ JOHN 17:25
Just Father, the world hath not known thee; but I have known thee: and these have known that thou HAST SENT ME.
26And I have made known
THY NAME to them, and
WILL MAKE IT KNOWN; why DID HE SAY SO? OBVIOUS SINCE HE WAS ABOUT TO GLORIFY, and ACQUIRE a NEW NAME!
that the love wherewith thou hast loved me, may be in them, and I in them.
SO ONCE HE RESURRECTED AND MANIFESTED HIMSELF TO THEM,WHICH WAS VITAL FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CHURCH, THEY ACCEPTED HIM FULLY, WITH THE NEW NAME AS:
JESUS CHRIST!
BEFORE HE WAS ONLY JESUS,NO?
So he respected the above statement before he died,and
HE MADE THE FATHER’S NEW NAME KNOWN TO THEM AGAIN! as:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
John20:22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them:
RECEIVE YOU THE HOLY GHOST.
NOW ONLY THE FATHER HAD THE POWER TO GIVE THE HOLY GHOST, BUT IN ORDER FOR JESUS TO MANIFEST TO THEM HIS UNIQUE POWER AND THE NEW NAME,
AS ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, HE GAVE THEM HOLY GHOST, AND:
23Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.
CLEAR ISN’T IT, ONLY THE FATHER HAD AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE SINS, UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME, THE FACT THAT JESUS DID SO ALSO DURING HIS MISSION, BUT WITHIN HIM, HE HAD HIS FATHER!
BUT NOW JESUS MANIFESTED HIS OVERALL AUTHORITY, WHICH THE FATHER GAVE HIM, AND ALSO MADE HIS FATHER’S NAME KNOWN AGAIN, AS HE PROMISED,SO
HE, HIMSELF PASSED THAT UNIQUE POWER TO HIS DISCIPLES!
THE FACT THAT HE SAID:
AS MY FATHER SENT ME, since ONLY his Father had the POWER AND AUTHORITY TO GIVE THE HOLY GHOST, AND TO FORGIVE SINS, HE DID THE SAME! AND SAID:
I,
ON THIS PLANET, AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRSIT,ALSO SEND YOU
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
You stray so far from what is written into your own fantasies.
You add a few scriptures to glorify your personal thoughts.
Speak the language of scripture if you want to be taken seriously
I believe that Jesus, as the Son, exists in a place of equality with the Father…He is with God – He is God…(one in complete unity)
DavidL
The Son is in one glory with the Holy Ghost!
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!
John13:31 When he therefore was gone out, Jesus said: Now is
the Son of man glorified, “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, JESUS’ BODY ONLY!
and God is glorified in him. IN JESUS’ BODY, through the Holy Spirit, Jesus’ soul! HE BUILT JESUS’ BODY WITHIN MARY!
32If God be glorified in him, God also will glorify him in himself;
and immediately will he glorify him.
IN THE SAME INSTANT OF HIS DEATH,ON THE CROSS, THE HOLY SPIRIT ACQUIRED ALL JESUS’ FLESH ATTRIBUTES, AND BECAME BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH!
SO JESUS WAS GLORIFIED AS MUCH AS THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS!
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL INTEGRATED AND BECAME
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, spirit being AND flesh JESUS CHRIST
THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT, THE FACT THAT THE FATHER PASSED ONTO JESUS ALL HIS ATTRIBUTES,AND HE IS THE OVER ALL RULER OF THE UNIVERSES!
JESUS’ SPIRIT THE HOLY TRINITY IN THE SON, “THE WORD” IS THE SUBSTANCE WITHIN THE ENTIRE SPIRIT AND TANGIBLE CREATION!
THE FATHER IS NOT YET IN FULL POWER SINCE HE DOESN’T OWN THE FLESH BODY DIRECTLY!
SO ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST IS THE FATHER IN FULL POWER!
THE FATHER IS REALLY IN HIS LONG REST!
TILL THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD
WHEN JESUS PASS HIS BODY TO THE FATHER TO BE
ALL IN ALL
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
You stray so far from what is written into your own fantasies.
Nick,
BUT HOW IS IT THAT YOU SIMPLY SAY SO, WITHOUT ANY PROOF FROM YOUR SIDE
UNLESS YOU PROVE WHAT YOU SAY!
MINE STAND!
WE ARE ALL HERE TO LEARN AND THAT’S WHAT I WANT
TO LEARN FROM A PERSON LIKE YOU
SINCE YOU’RE SO CONVINCED REGARDING YOU BELIEF AND YOU KNOWLEDGE!
YOU SAID A MONSTROUS LIE WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE FATHER WAS IN JESUS!
IF JESUS DIED AND GLORIFIED HOW ON EARTH THE FATHER WAS IN JESUS????
THAT’S A CONTRADICTION IN ITSELF
YOU KNOW THAT?
YOU SIMPLY SAID THAT JESUS CHRIST CAME ON EARTH MANIFESTED GOD’S WORK, DIED AND NOT ONLY DIDN’T GLORIFY , BUT ALSO THE FATHER NEVER GLORIFIED!
YOU BROUGHT GOD’S WORK TO NOTHING
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Did you ever wonder if you have wandered into Gnosticism?
KNOWLEDGE of a spiritual but nonscriptural basis.
A variation of the occult
Did you ever wonder if you have wandered into Gnosticism?
KNOWLEDGE of a spiritual but nonscriptural basis.
Nick,
Unless you pin point, where and contradict me with scriptures!
IT’S NO USE!
ANYBODY CAN SIMPLY SAY SUCH THINGS, BUT ALL ARE VOID, AND USELESS WITHOUT PROOF!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
To be safe you need to make sure every step you take can be shown in scripture more than once.2Cor 13.1
To teach in expanded terms about LUCIFER when the word appears only once in scripture is unwise.
You have no collateral evidence that what you say is true and you have to depend on opinion alone
To teach in expanded terms about LUCIFER when the word appears only once in scripture is unwise.
Nick,
Throughout the OT. the name Jesus Christ is not mentioned at all!
THE OT. IS THE ENTIRE EVIDENCE OF JESUS CHRIST, AS THE MESSIAH!
LUCIFER ALSO ONLY ONCE IS MENTIONED BUT THROUGHOUT THE OT. IS ALSO HIDDEN NOT AS LUCIFER, SINCE GOD ANNIHILATED HIM AS AN ARCHANGEL, BUT AS A CO CREATOR SINCE OUR WORLD IS GOOD AND EVIL
NOT ONLY THAT BUT ONLY JESUS’ BAPTISM SEPARATED THESE TWO FUNDAMENTAL SPIRITS WHICH WE ARE MADE FROM!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
I believe that Jesus, as the Son, exists in a place of equality with the Father…He is with God – He is God…(one in complete unity)
@DavidL. He is with God. That makes HE and GOD. The former is the Son of God. Identifying Jesus Christ as the son of God is the true confession. He is Lord, Messiah, and Son of the living God.Be careful not to deny the one true God as the Father and Jesus as the Son of that one true God. If you do that, then you err.
Identifying Jesus Christ as the son of God is the true confession. He is Lord, Messiah, and Son of the living God.
t8,
TO BE PRECISE,
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD!
JESUS DIED AND GLORIFIED AND BECAME:
THE ONLY TRUE, GOD AND JESUS CHRSIT
SO JESUS CHRIST ,not Jesus, INHERITED ALL GOD’S ATTRIBUTES INCLUDING THE TITLE OF
GOD OF ALL FLESH!
THEREFORE ALL THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSES ARE HIS PROPERTY!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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