What does Jeremiah 18:1,5 teach us?

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  • #864632
    carmel
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    Hi Edj,

    DRB. Version:

    For the law maketh men priests, who have infirmity:

    but THE WORD of the oath (which was since the law)

    the Son

    who is perfected forever more.

    NOW TO THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH WHETHER YOU ACCEPT IT OR NOT

     

    John4:36 And he (THE HOLY GHOST, JESUS’ THE DIVINE NATURE) that REAPETH receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal:

    that both he (“THE WORD”, THE SON OF MAN, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE) that SOWETH (Matthew 13:37 ….He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 

    YOU: Jesus *IS* the Son of Man.
    Jesus *IS NOT* “The Word”.

    Edj, In the above you AGREE that JESUS IS THE SON OF MAN! In Matthew above, it is AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL that

    THE SOWER IS THE SON OF MAN JESUS.”THE WORD”, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE, slain like a lamb from the beginning of the world.Re.13:8) 

    Cont. John4:36

    and he (THE HOLY GHOST) that reapeth may rejoice together.

    Matthew 3:10 For now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that doth not yield good fruit, shall be cut down, and cast

    into the fire. (BY THE HOLY GHOST, JESUS’ DIVINE NATURE, ON JESUS DEATH ON THE CROSS, JOHN13:31-32)

    11I indeed baptize you in water unto penance, but he(JESUS  THE SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE) that shall come after me, is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:

    he shall baptize you in

    THE HOLY GHOST AND FIRE. (Jesus’ “THE WORD” the Son of Man, Jesus’ human nature on His death, glorifies and BECOME ONE SUBSTANCE WITH THE HOLY GHOST, Jesus’divine nature; NOT TWO ANYMORE, BUT TWO IN

    ONE SPIRIT, GODMAN JESUS CHRIST)

    12Whose fan (OF THE HOLY GHOST)  is in his hand, and he (THE HOLY GHOST) will thoroughly cleanse his floor and gather his wheat into the barn; (THE HOLY GHOST REAPS)

    but the chaff he (THE HOLY GHOST) will burn with

    unquenchable fire.( FIRE IS ONLY OF THE HOLY GHOST)

    37And herein is that saying true. For in this

    One (“THE WORD”JESUS, THE SON OF MAN )soweth, (during the process of creation, SLAIN LIKE A LAMB….and after He glorifies on the cross, )(Matthew 13:37 ….He that SOWETH  the good seed is the Son of man;)(“THE WORD” Jesus human nature)

    and another (THE HOLY GHOST) REPEATH. (Matthew 3:12 but the chaff he (THE HOLY GHOST) will burn with  unquenchable fire.( ONLY THE HOLY GHOST has fire)

    Edj, From the above it is MORE THAT CLEAR THAT

    THE HOLY GHOST, and “THE WORD” ARE TWO DIFFERENT SPIRITS.

    JESUS “THE WORD”  Jesus’ human nature, WAS MADE FLESH,

    HIS TASK WAS ATTRIBUTED TO THE FLESH BODY, THE FACT THAT HE GAVE HIS BODY AS A RANSOM, 

    IN EXCHANGE OF THE HUMAN RACE, ALL IN HIM, ON HIS RESURRECTION,

    THE MAN BORN AGAIN John 3:3 

    “THE WORD” Jesus human nature SPIRITUALIZED HIS FLESH, THROUGH HIS HOLY LIFE,  EVEN BEFORE HE WAS BUTCHERED AND KILLED,

    Luke 13:32 And he said to them: Go and tell that fox: Behold, I cast out devils and do cures, to-day and to-morrow, and the third day

    I am consummated.( SPIRITUALIZED, He was ready to die,and He was in the position to GIVE HIS DEATH FLESH BODY TO THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE ON HIS RESURRECTION, John3:3)

    “THE WORD” Jesus’human nature INTEGRATED WITH THE HOLY GHOST 

    ON HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS! and TOGETHER WITH HOLY GHOST IN

    JESUS CHRIST!

    HE GLORIFIED THE TRUE GODMANON EARTH! John13:31-32

    John2o:22 When he had said this,

    he breathed on them; and he said to them:

    Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 

    AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL

    “THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN, JESUS’ HUMAN NATURE RESURRECTED and

    THE HOLY GHOST  BECAME ONE SUBSTANCE IN

    OUR LORD GOD AND FATHER JESUS CHRIST, Isaiah 9:6 and

    HE BECAME THE SOVEREIGN AND PROPRIETOR OVER ALL THAT THE FATHER EVER CREATED. THUS 

    AS MUCH AS THE FATHER AS A CREATOR GAVE THE HOLY GHOST THROUGH HIS BREATH TO ADAM,

    THE NEW CREATION AS A LIVING SOUL,

    JESUS LIKEWISE AS A CREATOR OF

    ALL IN THE NEW FLESH, purchased by His own blood, well clear in:

    John17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast given him. 

    GAVE HIS UNIQUE  HOLY GHOST one substance with HUMANITY, ( MENTIONED ABOVE BY JOHN) THROUGH HIS BREATH TO THE

    APOSTLE AS HIS NEW ETERNAL CREATION BY HIS OWN BLOOD RECREATED ANEW ON HIS RESURRECTION!

    1 Peter 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy

    HATH REGENERATED US 

     unto a lively hope, by

    the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead:

    4Unto an inheritance, incorruptible, and undefiled and that cannot fade, reserved in heaven for you, 5Who, by the power of God, are kept by faith unto salvation, ready to be revealed in the last time.

     

    Hebrews 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou change them,

    and they shalt be changed.(in the flesh)

    But thou art the selfsame: (: Jesus,”THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN, and DIVINE ETERNAL )

    and thy years shall not fail.

     

    Peace and Love in Jesus Christ

    #864657
    Ed J
    Participant

    Edj, In the above you AGREE that JESUS IS THE SON OF MAN! In Matthew above, it is AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL that
    THE SOWER IS THE SON OF MAN JESUS.”THE WORD”, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE, slain like a lamb from the beginning of the world.Re.13:8)

    Hi Carmel,

    Yes it is clear as crystal that the Son of man sows “The Word”.
    But “The Word” that the Son of man sows is God’s HolySpirit.

    Are you claiming the Son of man is instead sowing himself?

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #864658
    Ed J
    Participant

    Carmel,

    For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
    “The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
    maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.” (Heb 7:28)

    God’s “HolySpirt” (The Word) conceived Jesus in his mother Mary’s womb as per the oath

    Wake-up!

    #864659
    Ed J
    Participant

    THE HOLY GHOST, and “THE WORD” ARE TWO DIFFERENT SPIRITS.

    FALSE! “But he that is joined unto the Lord is ONE SPIRIT” (1 Cor 6:17)

    “There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one
    hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and
    Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Eph 4:4-6)

    REPENT Carmel!

    #864664
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj…..Right on.  One GOD who is Spirit who can indwell us, just as he was indwelling “the son of man” Jesus,  and just as scripture says. 

    “if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead,  dwell “in” you, “He” who raised Christ Jesus from the dead shall  “also”, (like He Did Jesus)  quicken your mortal (dead)  “body” . Just like he did with Jesus’ “mortal” body. 

    All those who try to SEPERATE Jesus from the rest of his brothers and sisters  are “all false teachers”  foming out the teaching of their leader,  “Satan” himself. Who wants all to move Jesus away from being a real human being, exactly like themselves,  who over came sin by the power of God the Father, the exact same way we all can also. So Satan created the teachings that move Jesus away from our exact identity with him as human beings. Modern Christanity teaches “SATAN’S”,   “DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION”.  which is exactly what Satan wants taught.  2THS2.  

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

     

    #864666
    carmel
    Participant

    Hi Edj,

    YOU: Hi Carmel,

    Yes it is clear as crystal that the Son of man sows “The Word”.( ME: HIS SPIRIT, SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD, Rev. 13:8 ETERNAL LIFE)

    But “The Word” that the Son of man sows is God’s HolySpirit.

    NO, NO, and NO!

    FALSE, FALSE, and FALSE!

    Are you claiming the Son of man is instead sowing himself?

    AND HOW!

    JESUS LEFT AN INFINITESIMAL SPIRIT IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF CREATION, AND IN EVERY CREATURES’ HEART!

    AS THE CREATOR, REDEEMER AND ETERNAL LIFE OF ALL! ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM and ALL FOR HIM.

    HE DIED,

    THE SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, THE TRUTH,

    THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTE OF GOD’S KINGDOM. JOHN17:2

    NOT THE HOLY GHOST! THE SON OF GOD, THE VOICE OF GOD.

    NOW THIS PARTICULAR HOLY GHOST ABOVE IS ATTRIBUTED TO 

    THE SON!

    IN JESUS’ DIVINE NATURE’S SOUL. THOUGH ALL DIVINE SPIRITS CAME FROM THE FATHER,  IN A WAY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF THE FATHER WHO WAS SENT BY JESUS CHRIST.)

    OK?

    Now, we as humans have TWO SPIRIT ELEMENTS! ONE ATTRIBUTED TO THE FLESH, EVE’S, CORRUPTED THROUGH SIN,

    THE TASK OF “THE WORD” the Son of Man, in ALL HEARTS, the LIFE OF ALL FLESH,  and ONE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SOUL! ADAM’S, LOCKED IN THE FLESH INHERITED FROM EVE!

    THE TASK OF THE HOLY GHOST, THE SON OF GOD!

    Thus Jesus also had TWO  SPIRIT ELEMNTS, LIKE US, BUT ATTRIBUTED TO HIS

    TWO NATURES, DIVINE /HUMAN

    ONE ATTRIBUTED TO THE

    SON OF MAN, FLESH, and ONE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SON OF GOD, IN JESUS’ SOUL!

    THUS, PHYSICALLY SPEAKING,  THE SOWER IS THE SON OF MAN: ONE SPIRIT, “THE WORD” FROM EVE’S HEART OUR MOTHER IN FLESH, ATTRIBUTED TO THE SON, FOR THE TASK OF ALL FLESH/PHYSICAL.

    THE SEED IS HIS SPIRIT, WHICH HE LEFT IN EVERY CREATURES’ HEART and IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF CREATION, THE COSMOS,  “THE WORD” itself who speaks in OUR HEART for no use, simply SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD. ETERNAL LIFE, Rev.13:8 

    HE  IS THE ONLY SPIRIT/MEDIATOR ATTACHED WITHIN ALL HEARTS, AS THE LIFE OF ALL FLESH. John 17:2

    NOW SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING, THE HOLY GHOST WAS ANOTHER SPIRIT THROUGH ADAM, ATTRIBUTED TO THE SON, FOR THE TASK OF SOULS!SPIRITUAL!

    “THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN, AS THE ONLY SPIRIT/MEDIATOR, LOADED ON HIM WITH ALL THE EVIL PAST, PRESENT , and FUTURE, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION, SHIELDED, AND PREVENTED MARY FROM THE LEAST IMPERFECTION, AND CREATED HER IN HER MOTHER’S WOMB, IN HEART/SOUL,  ATTRIBUTED TO

    HER IMMACULATE FLESH FROM EVE IN CAIN, DESPITE THROUGH SEX,  FULL OF GRACE

    WITH THE HOLY GHOST IN HER MIND/SOUL FROM THE FATHER, ATTRIBUTED TO HER DIVINE SOUL FROM SETH!

    MOTHER OF THE SON OF GOD, AND OF ALL SOULS!

    THEN ON JESUS BIRTH BOTH OF THEM, BY THE FATHER’S POWER, “THE WORD” and THE HOLY GHOST, THROUGH BILOCATION, BECAME

    JESUS TWO NATURES, DIVINE/HUMAN!

     

    NOW TO:

    John 12:24 Amen, amen, I say to you, unless

    THE GRAIN (ONE) of wheat falling into the ground DIE,

    25Itself remaineth ALONE. ( ONE SPIRIT)

    But if it DIES

    it bringeth forth much fruit.

    Edj, Now, read what happened when THIS ONE SPIRIT, WHICH WAS MADE FLESH IN

    “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man died on the cross!

     

    John13:31-32 When he (Judah) therefore was gone out, Jesus said:

    Now is THE SON OF MAN glorified; (“THE WORD” MADE FLESH, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE)

    Edj, ( UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME JESUS WAS 

    ONE SPIRIT, “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, THE CARRIER OF

    THE TRIUNE GOD,

    THE FATHER, the source, THE HOLY GHOST, the voice of God, the fulfillment of God’s SPIRITUAL WORK,   and “THE WORD” of God. The manifestation of God’s ENTIRE PHYSICAL/SPIRITUAL WORK, ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM, and ALL FOR HIM, the fact that Jesus, THROUGH HIS MANIFESTATION, is

    THE TRUTH.)

    and God ( IN THE HOLY GHOST) is glorified in him. ( IN “THE WORD” Jesus’FLESH, THE SON OF MAN,)

    32If God ( IN THE HOLY GHOST, JESUS DIVINE NATURE, THE SON OF GOD,) be glorified in him,( IN “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, THE SON OF MAN, JESUS’HUMAN NATURE: 

    THE HOLY GHOST ACQUIRES JESUS’HUMAN NATURE ATTRIBUTES, and BECOMES TWO,

    BOTH SPIRIT and FLESH,

    TWO IN ONE SPIRIT, JESUS CHRIST)

    God (IN THE HOLY GHOST, JESUS’ DIVINE NATURE, THE SON OF GODALSO will glorify him ( JESUS “THE WORD”  THE SON OF MAN ) in

    HIMSELF:( IN THE HOLY GHOST, THUS:

    “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, JESUS,  THE SON OF MAN,

    ALSO,  ACQUIRES THE SPIRITUAL ATTRIBUTES OF THE HOLY GHOST, BECOMES TWO,

    BOTH SPIRIT and FLESH 

    TWO IN ONE SPIRIT,  JESUS CHRIST)

    and immediately will he( GOD IN THE HOLY GHOST) glorify him.( “THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN)

     

    ON HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS! and becomes

    GODMAN ON EARTH one unique MOST POWERFUL spirit of 

    JESUS CHRIST 

    Now YOU SAID:But “The Word” that the Son of man sows is God’s HolySpirit.

    THAT’S RIGHT BUT NOT QUITE CLEAR AND  THE TRUTH SIMPLY, AS THE HOLY GHOST IS WITHIN HUMANS, ONLY

    THROUGH JESUS DEATH, THROUGH “THE WORD” JESUS’ INFINITESIMAL SPIRIT IN EVERY CREATURES’ HEART,

    SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD Rev.13:8 and MOST VITAL SINCE

    “THE WORD” Jesus, THE SON OF MAN

    DIED not the Holy Ghost.

    and through His death HE BCAME 

    ONE SUBSTANCE ALL SPIRITUAL and ALSO 

    ALL FLESH/PHYSICAL, AGAIN ONLY IN THE SON OF GOD, 

    JESUS CHRIST 

    Luke 24:28 And he said to them: Why are you troubled, and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 

    IN THE ABOVE THOUGH THEY SAW JESUS IN HIS FLESH BODY, THEY STILL BELIEVED THAT HE WAS

    A SPIRIT!

    OBVIOUS BECAUSE THEY KNEW HE WAS DEAD!

    39See my hands and feet, that it is I myself. Handle, and see:

    for a spirit hath not flesh and bones,

    as you see me ( BOTH SPIRIT and FLESH, GLORIFIED) to have. 

    40And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and feet.

     

    GOD OF ALL FLESH

    JESUS CHRIST

    ALLELUJA

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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