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- September 23, 2014 at 8:47 am#772732NickHassanParticipant
Hi KW,
But you are confident enough to relegate truth to just allegories and sayings?September 23, 2014 at 9:28 am#772802GeneBalthropParticipantNick…….you mean where I quote word for word what God himself said in EZEKIEL 37.6, and you simply ignored it and say that’s my imagination? And hang on to your own dogmas you conjured up, as you have with other scriptures I directly quoted. Because you don’t believe logic has anything to do with the truth, when the spirit of truth does just that it gives us the logic of truth, to understand scriptures. Anyone can quote scriptures few truly understand them. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………..gene
September 23, 2014 at 9:38 am#772820NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Are you in the HOUSE of Israel?
Are you among the hopeless God speaks about?
Are you not yet of the Spirit that you would be given it after deathWill your bones be in this valley?
September 23, 2014 at 10:21 am#772901GeneBalthropParticipantNick……I do believe I am one of the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Yes I will recieve the breath of life again after I die.
Nick, I believe this, if the spirit of him that raised Jesus from the grave dwells in me, he also will quicken my MORTAL (dead) “BODY”. Just as he did Jesus’, MORTAL BODY. Not one ounce of difference between the body he was raised with and the one I will be raised with. My own original flesh body, just like his original afresh body. Unto everlasting life in that flesh body. Jesus is the exact example of what happens to all true believers. IMO
PEACE AND LOVE TO YOU AND YOURS. ………….GENE
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September 23, 2014 at 10:27 am#772918NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
So you have not been blessed yet with the promised Holy Spirit?
And you hope to be raised with the HOUSE of Israel??September 23, 2014 at 10:33 am#772937GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..what makes you think because you have the HOLY SPIRIT, you can’t die, I know ow no one who had the Holy Spirit that didn’t die so far, even Jesus died, so he must not have had the holy spirit either right, according To, 1 NICK RIGHT?
peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
September 23, 2014 at 11:36 am#772940NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Who said that?
Some will not die but most in Christ will just as he did.But they will not suffer the second death
September 23, 2014 at 2:27 pm#773186kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
But you are confident enough to relegate truth to just allegories and sayings?You sound like you do not realize that confidence can come from God. I am compelled to test things by the spirit and by constantly testing them I become confident of some. Ad for the meaning of a particular passage I am more likely to be more confident of what it does not mean than what it does mean as it is easier to prove an interpretation false to prove one true.
September 23, 2014 at 2:30 pm#773187NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So you can be confident that you are guided by reason?September 23, 2014 at 2:41 pm#773234kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
So you can be confident that you are guided by reason?Reason is a tool and of only some use in determining if a temptation is from God or the evil one. The Spirit is needful for employing it and any tool correctly. The spirit can act before the mind is aware of the temptation.
September 23, 2014 at 2:53 pm#773311NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
But reason is your guide.Does God tempt?
[Jas 1.13]September 23, 2014 at 4:49 pm#773736kerwinParticipantNick,
You do not believe what I say so you are the one that accuses me of not being guided by the spirit. The Spirit is not against reason but it is against ungodliness and by aligning yourself against all wisdom you are choosing a path that is not guided by the Spirit. In choosing that path your reason is dependent on the principles of ungodly men. You therefore tread on deadly ground. It is wiser to watch what you say and what you do as you are not as firm as you believe.
September 23, 2014 at 4:59 pm#773753NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
So many assume their direction is from the Spirit.
Most are deluded.It is the most vital thing in scripture so not to be assumed lightly
September 24, 2014 at 1:08 am#774986GeneBalthropParticipantNick…. What makes you think you are not deluded? You saying we should not use reason and logic, only proves you haven’t a clue what you are talking about, but your purpose appears to try to make it appear you do, you refuse to engage in logical conversations with us, but play small shall game’s, switching back and forth accusing others, with of the wall condescending commits, trying to tare down quoted scriptures to meet your perceptions of what truth is, view that fit your own limited understandings reasons and ideas, while all the time putting others down who do the same thing your doing.
Kerwin analyzes our scriptures trying to get a clearer perspective on them and there is absolutely nothing ungodly or wrong with that.
He reminds me of this scripture, that the apostle Paul said
2 Ti 2:15…….> “study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
That “rightly” dividing, takes reason and logic with the guidance of the spirit of truth.
But we are to “shun profane and vain babbling, for they will increase unto more ungodliness”.
peace and love to you and yours. ………..Gene
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September 24, 2014 at 6:17 am#775023NickHassanParticipantHi Gb,
Yes you would think that.
Reason rules
September 24, 2014 at 7:15 am#775043kerwinParticipantNick,
Hi KW,
So many assume their direction is from the Spirit.
Most are deluded.It is the most vital thing in scripture so not to be assumed lightly
I believe that by obeying the gospel I can obey all that God commands and no longer. That cannot be done by man. It is only possible with God. Most do not choose to believe that. If you are one of those most then I do not think you will understand. All I can do is say test the spirit of what I say and do.
September 24, 2014 at 8:35 am#775063NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
Yes you add to and subtract from what is written.
What have you obeyed?September 24, 2014 at 1:42 pm#775085kerwinParticipantNick,
I only add and subtract from what you believe but I have given evidence that you both add and subtract from Scripture. These accusation do not profit anything but you are reluctant to support those things you choose to adhere to.
September 26, 2014 at 3:09 pm#775461NickHassanParticipantHi KW,
The Spirit can only bring light into minds that are not closed.
The wind must be allowed to teach us.September 26, 2014 at 4:30 pm#775462NickHassanParticipanthi KW,
The mind of Christ is the hope.
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