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Hi Ed and t8,
Define your own ideas as truth and all others become heretics.
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Hi Nick,
I suggest you repent of bearing false witness against me…
I have never once called you or anyone else here a ‘heretic’(Ed) According to YOUR LOGIC we can assume God wasn’t God then until
He actually created something to be “GOD” over (post # 815984)(Gene = “Negative, my logic is faulty”) “GOD WAS ALWAY GOD” (post #816002)
(Gene = “Affirmative, my logic is not faulty”) Edj…. GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD
Hi Nick,
Both Kerwin and Gene are now attempting to dance around with inconsistency:
Answering once in the “Affirmative” and once in the “Negative” to
the identical question posed with different wording(Ed) When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “YES” or “NO” ?
(Kerwin = “Affirmative, he did”) no, he was not wrong
(Ed) Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?
(Kerwin = “Negative, he did not”) the answer is no
Hi Ed,
What does it matter if you win the arguments
but remain deceived about the meaning of scripture because you cannot grasp prophecy.
Hi Nick,
Was the Angel Gabriel wrong when he said:
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord? “Yes” or “no”?does it matter if you win the arguments
Yes, it proves which side “The Truth” is on!
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” (1 Thess 5:21)
“A double minded man is unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8)EDJ….IT IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD EVEN MEANS, FIRST GET THAT STRAIGHT, AND THE REST SHOULD FALL INTO PLACE. THE WORD GOD, SIMPLY PUT IS A “RELATIVE” TERM, THE WORD GOD DESCRIBES A CONDITIONAL RELATIONSHIP TO SOMETHING. SCRIPTURE SAYS “AS FOR GOD’S THERE ARE MANY, BUT UNTO US THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD”, NOW IF WE WENT WITH YOUR REASONING ABOUT THE SIMPLE WORD GOD, THEN ALL THOSE SO-CALLED GOD’S EXISTED FOREVER. BUT WE KNOW “OUR” GOD “YEHWEH” IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND “HE” DID EXIST FROEVER. THE WORD GOD IS NOT THE “PERSON” IT IS OUR RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE TO THAT PERSON OR THING.
TRY, I AM SURE YOU MIGHT GET IT, IF YOU TRY. READ, 1Cor 8:5-6, perhap that can help you better understand.
peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
EdJ,
You are double minded as you believe we that salvation is in the gospel and that Simon literally saw it.
Make up your mind but to me salvation is in the gospel and means to for it to be fulfilled.
It is my argument than wins in the way God desires not the works of the flesh.
Ed,
Answering once in the “Affirmative” and once in the “Negative” to
the identical question posed with different wordingThis nonsense is your beast nature speaking because you are well aware of context.
The context is that salvation would not occurs until thirty years after Simon because the gospel is not about Jesus’ but rather about Christ crucified.
1 Corinthians 1:22-24Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Why are you choosing a gospel different than the one Paul or others preached?
Please put the beast to death and listen to the Spirit of God; which is the Spirit of Christ.
EDJ….(1) IT IS OBVIOUSLY CLEAR YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD EVEN MEANS
(2) NOW IF WE WENT WITH YOUR REASONING ABOUT THE SIMPLE WORD GOD, THEN ALL THOSE SO-CALLED GOD’S EXISTED FOREVER.
(3) “YEHWEH” IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
(4) I AM SURE YOU MIGHT GET IT, IF YOU TRY. READ, 1Cor 8:5-6, perhap that can help you better understand.
Hi Gene,
1) Name-calling is not a very effective conflict resolution strategy
2) Saying that has absolutely no connection to do with what we are discussing
3) God’s name (יהוה) transliterates into English as YHVH.
That is because there is no “W” sound in modern Hebrew and
furthermore there never was a “W” sound in ancient Hebrew either!4) That also has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing
5) Are you a computer generated response system rather than a real person?
Because your answers sound like ‘cookie-cutter’ responses as you are not
at all addressing the point/s that I have been making to you. At least
Kerwin and Nick are listening to what I say and responding to it.___________
God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
Christ is not divided.
Neither is truth.
Nick, you are divided with the angel that delivered God’s message about Jesus being born the messiah. What about aligning yourself with your own words above?
Angel
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people; for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Luke 2:10-11Nick
Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such.
https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-jesus-the-logos/page/49/#post-808401Can you see the glaring contradiction with your words Nick? Your teaching does not line up with scripture does it?
Eat the bread of life and drink in Christ.
Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
Nick, you say the man doesn’t matter only the spirit. Jesus was just a man until the baptism. Then he was the Christ. This is God inside him driving the body.
But Jesus said he was the bread of life. He was born the son of God. Do you know that he was born the messiah and the son of God? He was even born the king of the Jews.
Nick, you say the man doesn’t matter only the spirit. Jesus was just a man until the baptism. Then he was the Christ. This is God inside him driving the body.
Hi T8,
If I understand Nick’s belief correctly, the part I have highlighted does not fit into the story
Because Nick believes that “the Spirit of Christ” came upon an ordinary man named Jesus.
In more term: his merely human spirit, at that time, became one with “the Spirit of Christ”My belief is: “the Spirit of Christ” is the spirit that Jesus was born with;
and that spirit preexisted, this is testified to in Micah 5:2 and Luke 2:11.
The name “Micah” means: “Who is like God” WHO? “the Spirit of Christ”!1. Spirit of the Father: “the HolySpirit”
2. Spirit of the Son: “the Spirit of Christ”We will come to you and make OUR abode with you
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God bless
Ed JI think it is saying the same thing. Just a different starting point. Jesus an ordinary man was filled with the Spirit or the Spirit indwelt and ordinary man. I think he is basically saying both which amounts to the same thing. However if he is indeed not saying that Jesus was just a man until the baptism, then he was the Christ, then he is denying Jesus is the Christ full-stop and for all time. Clearly even more antichrist if that is possible.
Of course we know that he was born Jesus and anyone that denies this Jesus is the Christ is the antichrist. Nick in the least clearly denies that this Jesus who was born in a manger was the Christ. He denies it publicly by saying he was not born as such and he has not repented from it.
If however, he says that Christ was the Spirit and Jesus was the shell that was chosen and the Christ came in and took over this shell (like a crab taking a shell) then that is even worse for him as he is by that belief denying for all time that this Jesus is the Lord and Christ. Instead the Christ possessed or overtook Jesus.
I agree with your view BTW Ed J.
Jesus has his own spirit as all sons of God clearly do.
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
If we have a spirit and it converses with God’s own spirit. How much more the prototype son of God if we are modeled after him.
@t8,
The antichrist spirit reveals itself more commonly than the Spirit of Christ. We are taught to deny it within our selves and oppose it without.
EDJ….YOU shifted subject matter, from the word GOD to the name of “our” GOD, “YEHWEH”, WE WEREN’T TALKING ABOUT THAT, we were talking about the “word” GOD ITSELF. NOW I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONFUSION, THE WORD “YEHWEH’, AND THE WORD “GOD” ARE NOT THE SAME WORD, YEHWEH IS THE NAME OF THE “PERSON” WHO “IS” OUR GOD, GET IT?
Pointing out to you it is obvisely clear you haven’t a clue about the word GOD ITSEF, IS not calling you a name, espically when it is clear you aren’t even talking about the WORD GOD, But the WORD YEHWEH.
I EXPLAINED CLEARLY TO YOU ABOUT THE ORIGINAL WORD GOD, FROM THE HEBREW PICTORIAL LANGUAGE and showed you how it was represented as an OX head (POWER) with a sheppards STAFF leaning toward it (trust or faith in) and that was the orgin of the word GOD, That is a picture of a RELATIONSHIP ship to THE PERSON YEHWEH they had and we must also have. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
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