Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #816465
    Ed J
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    Ed,

    God was not the Creator until he actually created something.

    Gene – “GOD WAS ALWAY GOD” (post #816002)

    His own words are evidence against his faulty logic

    “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Cor 13:1)

    #816466
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    If you want to be literal then the answer is no. Of course Simon was not literal and you know it.

    Romans 1:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Stop behaving foolishly for in doing so you are denying the gospel of Christ; wherein salvation lies.

    Do not think I will follow you into your foolishness.

    #816467
    Ed J
    Participant

    Kerwin,

    Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?

    #816468
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    I seem to be low on patience at the moment so I probably will not be back until I feel more resilient.

    #816469
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kwrwin,

    Kerwin,

    Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?

    the answer is no

    YOUR own words are evidence against your faulty logic

    @Ed,

    When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “YES” or “NO” ?

    no, he was not wrong

    T8, this one is now nailed down IN BLACK AND WHITE!

    Gene – “anyone with common sense knows Jesus was not a lord
    or savior untill he actually performed the very act of salvation

    This logic is now proven false by Gene’s answer to question #1 and Kerwin’s answer to question #2

    “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Cor 13:1)

    This can be the first refutation nailed down in the new category…

    “False doctrines that are proven false”

    #816471
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin,

    Because I have now proven (to you) the rudimentary logic that Gene has postulated is FALSE,
    you will now resort to bearing false witness against me…

    you are denying the gospel of Christ

    “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish” (Luke 13:5)

    REPENT!

    #816478
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    YOU HAVE PROVED ONLY THAT YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPHETIC WORD.

    Calling for those that know better to repent is adding folly to folly.

    #816481
    Ed J
    Participant

    you are denying the gospel of Christ

    Hi Nick,

    Are you saying it would be folly for Kerwin to repent for falsely accusing me of this?

    #816482
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?

    #816484
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Gene’s logic has been proven faulty. For you to defend his logic
    will mean that you too will end up contradicting your own words too.
    Why attempt to hide in darkness? If your not scared answer my questions

    Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?

    #816486
    Ed J
    Participant

    “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
    because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light,
    lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be
    made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” (John 3:19-21)

    #816487
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The man enlightened by the Spirit recognised the future role of the child.

    Seek prophecy.

    #816488
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Why do you not yet see the light?

    Withhold judgement till you hear the voice of the Spirit.

    #816491
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    You are well aware that Jesus saved us by his sacrifice on the cross and yet you deny it.

    How can you honestly claim that you are confident that the gospel of Christ is “the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth” if you instead believe that Simon literally saw salvation 30 odd years before. The bottom line is that you cannot.

    You are attempting to serve two masters. (Matthew 6:24)

    Which master do you choose to give up?

    My Master is the gospel and the one whose word it is.

    #816492
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    I am not sure of what Gene said or the reason behind it though I have my suspicions. I worded my point different than what he you claimed he did.

    #816493
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed,

    All that is proved is that you twist the words which is probably why you like and no questions that are open to interpretation.

    I understand it that you are walking according without even being aware of it; possibly because you do not test your own life and doctrine.

    I handles small beasts and I suppose if you choose to act like one I should handle as one of them and not a rational human being.

    It would be better for all if you chose to learn to control those bestial urges a little more each day. I admit it is a long process that seem impossible to accomplish but we believe all things are possible through God.

    #816494
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj….NO GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD. YOU HAVENT A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THE WORD GOD IS A RELATIVE TERM, IN FACT THERE ARE MANY HE YEHWEH IS NOT THE GOD OF.

    THE WORD GOD CAME TO US FROM A PICTORIAL HEBREW WORD, THE PICTURE WAS A OX HEAD WITH ASHEPPARDS STAFF LEANING ON IT. NOW PUT THAT PICTURE TOGETHER AND YOU SHOULDBE ABLE TO SEE that the WORD GOD, only applies to people who see his power and lean or trust on him. YOUR false assumptions are, that power we trust in was something we “always” trusted in as our GOD. NOTHING could be further from the truth, our GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF OTHERS. NOT EVERYONE TRUSTS IN HIM OR HIS POWER,

    DID YAWEH “OUR” GOD ALWAYS EXIST “YES”, HE DID, BUT THE WORD GOD IS NOT A PERSON, IT IS APPLIED TO A PERSON in a “RELATIVE SENSE” , IE, our God, their God, the God of this or that. The God of Isreal was not the GOD of the heathens. BUT DID “OUR” GOD “YEHWEH ” ALWAY EXIST “YES”. AGAIN THE WORD GOD IS A TERM FOR a “TYPE” OF RELATIONSHIP WITH A PERSON. WHATEVER POWER a PERSON, LEANS ON AND PUTS HIS COMPLETE TRUST IN IS “HIS” GOD.

    Hope this helps clear the cob webs.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

    #816496
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    Edj….NO GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD. YOU HAVENT A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THE WORD GOD IS A RELATIVE TERM, IN FACT THERE ARE MANY HE YEHWEH IS NOT THE GOD OF.

    I was wondering if Ed got your words correct but now I see he does.

    I also see what your reason is though I am not sure God is a relative term or just used as a descriptive noun. Of course one use does not negate the other.

    #816504
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed and t8,

    Define your own ideas as truth and all others become heretics.

    sigh

     

    #816506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ,

    Of course Jesus Christ spoke to God as FATHER

    but he was happy to speak of GOD to others as in Jn 8.42-54

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