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- August 3, 2016 at 2:27 pm#816465Ed JParticipant
Ed,
God was not the Creator until he actually created something.
Gene – “GOD WAS ALWAY GOD” (post #816002)
His own words are evidence against his faulty logic
“In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Cor 13:1)
August 3, 2016 at 2:29 pm#816466kerwinParticipantEd,
If you want to be literal then the answer is no. Of course Simon was not literal and you know it.
Romans 1:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Stop behaving foolishly for in doing so you are denying the gospel of Christ; wherein salvation lies.
Do not think I will follow you into your foolishness.
August 3, 2016 at 2:30 pm#816467Ed JParticipantKerwin,
Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?
August 3, 2016 at 2:37 pm#816468kerwinParticipantEd,
I seem to be low on patience at the moment so I probably will not be back until I feel more resilient.
August 3, 2016 at 2:38 pm#816469Ed JParticipantHi Kwrwin,
Kerwin,
Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?
the answer is no
YOUR own words are evidence against your faulty logic
@Ed,
When Simeon said: “mine eyes have seen thy salvation” was he wrong? “YES” or “NO” ?
no, he was not wrong
T8, this one is now nailed down IN BLACK AND WHITE!
Gene – “anyone with common sense knows Jesus was not a lord
or savior untill he actually performed the very act of salvation”This logic is now proven false by Gene’s answer to question #1 and Kerwin’s answer to question #2
“In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Cor 13:1)
This can be the first refutation nailed down in the new category…
“False doctrines that are proven false”
August 3, 2016 at 2:48 pm#816471Ed JParticipantHi Kerwin,
Because I have now proven (to you) the rudimentary logic that Gene has postulated is FALSE,
you will now resort to bearing false witness against me…you are denying the gospel of Christ
“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish” (Luke 13:5)
REPENT!
August 3, 2016 at 5:30 pm#816478NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
YOU HAVE PROVED ONLY THAT YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPHETIC WORD.
Calling for those that know better to repent is adding folly to folly.
August 3, 2016 at 5:49 pm#816481Ed JParticipantyou are denying the gospel of Christ
Hi Nick,
Are you saying it would be folly for Kerwin to repent for falsely accusing me of this?
August 3, 2016 at 5:54 pm#816482Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Did Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?
August 3, 2016 at 6:02 pm#816484Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Gene’s logic has been proven faulty. For you to defend his logic
will mean that you too will end up contradicting your own words too.
Why attempt to hide in darkness? If your not scared answer my questionsDid Simeon see God’s salvation? “Yes” or “No” ?
August 3, 2016 at 6:06 pm#816486Ed JParticipant“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light,
lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be
made manifest, that they are wrought in God.” (John 3:19-21)August 3, 2016 at 10:44 pm#816487NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
The man enlightened by the Spirit recognised the future role of the child.
Seek prophecy.
August 3, 2016 at 10:46 pm#816488NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Why do you not yet see the light?
Withhold judgement till you hear the voice of the Spirit.
August 4, 2016 at 1:19 am#816491kerwinParticipantEd,
You are well aware that Jesus saved us by his sacrifice on the cross and yet you deny it.
How can you honestly claim that you are confident that the gospel of Christ is “the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth” if you instead believe that Simon literally saw salvation 30 odd years before. The bottom line is that you cannot.
You are attempting to serve two masters. (Matthew 6:24)
Which master do you choose to give up?
My Master is the gospel and the one whose word it is.
August 4, 2016 at 1:23 am#816492kerwinParticipantEd,
I am not sure of what Gene said or the reason behind it though I have my suspicions. I worded my point different than what he you claimed he did.
August 4, 2016 at 1:30 am#816493kerwinParticipantEd,
All that is proved is that you twist the words which is probably why you like and no questions that are open to interpretation.
I understand it that you are walking according without even being aware of it; possibly because you do not test your own life and doctrine.
I handles small beasts and I suppose if you choose to act like one I should handle as one of them and not a rational human being.
It would be better for all if you chose to learn to control those bestial urges a little more each day. I admit it is a long process that seem impossible to accomplish but we believe all things are possible through God.
August 4, 2016 at 2:46 am#816494GeneBalthropParticipantEdj….NO GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD. YOU HAVENT A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THE WORD GOD IS A RELATIVE TERM, IN FACT THERE ARE MANY HE YEHWEH IS NOT THE GOD OF.
THE WORD GOD CAME TO US FROM A PICTORIAL HEBREW WORD, THE PICTURE WAS A OX HEAD WITH ASHEPPARDS STAFF LEANING ON IT. NOW PUT THAT PICTURE TOGETHER AND YOU SHOULDBE ABLE TO SEE that the WORD GOD, only applies to people who see his power and lean or trust on him. YOUR false assumptions are, that power we trust in was something we “always” trusted in as our GOD. NOTHING could be further from the truth, our GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF OTHERS. NOT EVERYONE TRUSTS IN HIM OR HIS POWER,
DID YAWEH “OUR” GOD ALWAYS EXIST “YES”, HE DID, BUT THE WORD GOD IS NOT A PERSON, IT IS APPLIED TO A PERSON in a “RELATIVE SENSE” , IE, our God, their God, the God of this or that. The God of Isreal was not the GOD of the heathens. BUT DID “OUR” GOD “YEHWEH ” ALWAY EXIST “YES”. AGAIN THE WORD GOD IS A TERM FOR a “TYPE” OF RELATIONSHIP WITH A PERSON. WHATEVER POWER a PERSON, LEANS ON AND PUTS HIS COMPLETE TRUST IN IS “HIS” GOD.
Hope this helps clear the cob webs.
peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
August 4, 2016 at 4:17 am#816496kerwinParticipantGene,
Edj….NO GOD WAS NOT A GOD UNTIL HE BECAME A GOD. YOU HAVENT A CLUE WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THE WORD GOD IS A RELATIVE TERM, IN FACT THERE ARE MANY HE YEHWEH IS NOT THE GOD OF.
I was wondering if Ed got your words correct but now I see he does.
I also see what your reason is though I am not sure God is a relative term or just used as a descriptive noun. Of course one use does not negate the other.
August 4, 2016 at 2:14 pm#816504NickHassanParticipantHi Ed and t8,
Define your own ideas as truth and all others become heretics.
sigh
August 4, 2016 at 2:19 pm#816506NickHassanParticipantHi ,
Of course Jesus Christ spoke to God as FATHER
but he was happy to speak of GOD to others as in Jn 8.42-54
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