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I'll give you a MILLION YEARS to show me a Hebrew ms that says Cain's wife was an offspring of Adam. I can wait.
mike,
what you are saying is non sense. you want HEBREW but you cant understand english bible LOL
you are not even a scholar to discuss these things. i just want to make your life simple. dont make things hard for you
ill give you billion yrs to find one. give me verse that says cain married a cave woman. LOL
Quote (jammin @ April 23 2013,14:58) LOL there you go. now you know that scientists dont believe to the true GOD of israel
then why are you insisting that “”million yrs ago”” boy LOL”
i believe in gen 1 and the messenger of GOD who wrote that.
adam was the first man. eve was first woman.
no cave man boy LOL
adam means man.Perhaps before adam, there was bob?
Quote (jammin @ April 26 2013,16:40) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2013,12:24) So then you CAN'T show me your claim in any Hebrew ms? I figured as much. Later!
LOLyou are just making an excuse boy.
im giving you 1000yrs to find one that cain married a cave woman.
i can wait boy just show me the verse LOL
I will give you the proof 999 years from now. Haven't got time right at this minute.To all,
Scripture assume we know of what kind Seth's wife was. God does not deem it important enough for us to know or he presented us a mystery to solve.
What is the definition of kind?
Can members of one kind breed with members of another?
Were Cain's children a hybrid of men and beast?
Adam was the first man through which sin enter the world of man ,and his wife Eve was thrown out of Eden and so where the only human alive ,with the purpose to subdue it and cultivated,so it is this lost that Christ later came to save for all men (the second Adam) again scriptures do not tell much about female gender born to Adam and Eve only male gender are recorded ,but it looks that the female gender was in more numbers than the men
it for this that the Angels got corrupted ideas and so left there house for the house of men,
it would be like a human that subdue himself to the animal world ,many have done so ,
as for Cain 's wife ,i assume that Cain was a man and so took a wife among the female offspring of his human parents ,NO ANIMAL BUILT CITY'S ,
MY COMMON SENS TELL'S ME THAT ,
We know that at one point, God selected Noah to carry on the legacy of mankind. We know that later, God selected just one man, Abraham, from which to build the nation that would be called by His own name.
In both cases, others already existed before God selected the ONE through whom He would do special things.
Could Adam have been one of these “ONES” through whom God wanted to do special things – even though there were already others in existence?
God foretold that He would raise up for Himself a prophet from the line of Moses – a man after His own heart. Many people already existed by the time God raised that prophet up.
Perhaps with Adam, God wanted to raise up a species “after His own heart” as well. He made Adam in His own image, and from day one Adam KNEW his God and Creator. Perhaps the “others” were in existence, but were more like the animals – not knowing about God, but getting by on instinct. And then God decided to make for Himself a race who DID know God. A race with enough intelligence to even understand things like that. Perhaps that is what is meant by “in our image and likeness”.
Who knows?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2013,15:03) In both cases, others already existed before God selected the ONE through whom He would do special things. Could Adam have been one of these “ONES” through whom God wanted to do special things – even though there were already others in existence?
Certainly possible, but scripture does not give us enough clues to verify if this was the case. The likely reason why is that Adam was the first man or creature made in God's image to inhabit the world after the period of Earth's darkness and void stage. (who knows what happened before that). Or it could be that there was a pre-adamic race, but that it is not important enough for us to know right now. In the same way that it is not important for us to know about angels and their origins.Still that leaves a lot to speculate about. For example, if we become like angels, then were they once a race of flesh too. As it say, first the flesh then the spirit. If so, it is possible that they inhabited planets like we inhabit Earth and then reached the stage of Spiritual without death. And it is possible that some came to Earth in the past. I mean if the sons of God came down when woman were on the Earth, then they could have come down before that too. These sons of God are called Watchers in the Book of Enoch. They must watch us and could be watching us now.
And there is at least one book out there that says that Adam had a wife before Eve, but she was Adams equal and she rebelled against God, so God gave Adam Eve from his own flesh. I think it is okay to speculate, so long as we are clear that is what we are doing. We shouldn't build a doctrine up from speculation, otherwise we end up with doctrines like the Trinity. Of course, not accusing you of that Mike. Just saying that we all need to remember that.
Quote (Ed J @ July 14 2013,22:53)
Mike, have you read the Book of Jasher?Might find an answer in there.
That guy was doing some heavy-duty sleuthing there, huh?
I would like to hang with him for a few days, and discuss scriptures and related topics with him.
I'm with him in wondering why everyone is Caucasian in that JW book except for the servant girl. Even the Egyptians are depicted as being white folks.
And how do their pictures portray events that are only detailed in Jasher, if they insist Jasher is a secular writing?
I will definitely read Jasher now, and see what other details are given in that book. (And yes, I heard about the 2 sons and three daughters. I will give it some thought and pray on it.)
Thanks for that video!
I suppose their view was they were catering for a white audience. I suppose if it was China, then everyone might be Chinese. But yeah the JWs are an international organisation.
After reading about the book, most seem to think it a forgery with the original book lost to history. In fact there is more than one Book of Jasher out there.
I put the book that seems to be the main one that people read. It is online here, but it is not linked from the site anywhere at the moment.
Quote I'm with him in wondering why everyone is Caucasian in that JW book except for the servant girl. Even the Egyptians are depicted as being white folks. I've asked myself that many times. And Jesus is always very Caucasian looking whereas other people around him look slightly Jewish.
I've been told that the more recent Watchtowers and Awakes portray a more “Jewish looking” Jesus……. but I can't say I'm an eyewitness of this.
t8, I started reading the Jasher you linked yesterday, and it seems like a re-cap of the Pentateuch to me. That fits with the Jewish rabbis who say “The Book of Jasher” really means “The Book of the Just”, and is a reference to the Pentateuch itself. In other words, when Joshua referenced “The Book of Jasher”, he was really referencing the Pentateuch itself. Same with Samuel.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2013,08:42) I've been told that the more recent Watchtowers and Awakes portray a more “Jewish looking” Jesus……. but I can't say I'm an eyewitness of this. t8, I started reading the Jasher you linked yesterday, and it seems like a re-cap of the Pentateuch to me. That fits with the Jewish rabbis who say “The Book of Jasher” really means “The Book of the Just”, and is a reference to the Pentateuch itself. In other words, when Joshua referenced “The Book of Jasher”, he was really referencing the Pentateuch itself. Same with Samuel.
Hi Mike,The book of Jasher points to Melchizedek as being “Shem”. (Jasher 16:11-12) (Link)
Oh and yea, their propaganda material does portray a more middle-eastern look.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2013,03:42) I've been told that the more recent Watchtowers and Awakes portray a more “Jewish looking” Jesus……. but I can't say I'm an eyewitness of this. t8, I started reading the Jasher you linked yesterday, and it seems like a re-cap of the Pentateuch to me. That fits with the Jewish rabbis who say “The Book of Jasher” really means “The Book of the Just”, and is a reference to the Pentateuch itself. In other words, when Joshua referenced “The Book of Jasher”, he was really referencing the Pentateuch itself. Same with Samuel.
Mike,The Pentateuch does not record the miracle of the Sun stopping in the sky.
Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2013,17:50) Hi Mike, The book of Jasher points to Melchizedek as being “Shem”.
I looked at your link, and it seems like Marty proved scripturally that Shem was dead and gone long before Abraham ever lived.
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