The Word

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Did the prophets do miracles or was it the works of God?

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2014,12:41)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,19:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2014,11:58) And what about John 6?  “Isn't this Jesus, whose family we know?  How then can he now say he came down from heaven?” Hi MB, The anointed man is still confusing folks. Nick, How was Jesus able to say he came down from heaven, and would soon ascend back to where he was before? And why did this teaching baffle those who had been thinking that he was just a regular old man? Better yet – why DOESN'T that teaching baffle you – since you think the same thing?

Mike B.

His name shall be Called, who??

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and ***his name shall be called*** Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

No Jesus mentioned;Why?
Because God did not want the jews to identify Him by
His name,but by the prophesies about Him.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,13:11)

Hi MB, Did the prophets do miracles or was it the works of God?

Nick……..INDEED, It was God who was WORKING in and through the prophets who did all the miracles and that included all the miracles he did through Jesus, the ANOINTED “MAN” JESUS that is.

Wakeup, Jesus was never a GOD, not now or ever will be, he HIMSELF never did a single Miracle. He is a SON of MAN, just as he said he was around eighty times. when the SON OF MAN.  Comes will he find “FAITH” on the earth ?.

Peace and love ……………………….gene

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Indeed the Word came down from heaven and ascended back there -as shown in Dan 7.13-14- now in humanlike form

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,19:45)

Hi MB, Seems like two beings from what you said “I know the human being that you know, but I also know the spirit being who came down from heaven”

Jesus was flesh, but then became a life-giving spirit. Does that make two beings?

If you are one of the ones who will be transformed from flesh to spirit in the blink of an eye, will you be two different beings at that time?

So what I meant is that I have read about the flesh Jesus, who dwelled on earth for 33 years, leading a ministry to God for 3 and a half of those years.

But I've also read about the spirit Jesus who had glory alongside God before the world was created through him. I've read about the spirit Jesus who rides a white horse and has a sharp sword coming out of his mouth.

I know both of these “ASPECTS” of Jesus (there, is that better?)……… while you seem to only know one of them.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,19:46)

Hi MB, Can the Spirit live in and work through you?

Yep.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,20:11)

Hi MB, Did the prophets do miracles or was it the works of God?

It was God who did the signs and wonders through all of His prophets – Jesus included.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 05 2014,20:49)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2014,12:41) Nick, How was Jesus able to say he came down from heaven, and would soon ascend back to where he was before? And why did this teaching baffle those who had been thinking that he was just a regular old man? Better yet – why DOESN'T that teaching baffle you – since you think the same thing? Mike B. His name shall be Called, who?? Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and ***his name shall be called*** Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. No Jesus mentioned;Why? Because God did not want the jews to identify Him by His name,but by the prophesies about Him. wakeup.

There is no “Lamb”, “Mediator”, “Prophet”, “Priest”, “Messiah”, or “Son of God” mentioned in that verse either.

I don't see the point you are trying to make.  I don't agree with your conclusion that God didn't want the Jews to identify this coming counselor by name.  And I don't have the foggiest idea how this post addresses one single thing about the things I said to Nick in the quote box above. (Did you maybe apply this response to the wrong post from me?)

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,14:23)

Hi MB, Indeed the Word came down from heaven and ascended back there -as shown in Dan 7.13-14- now in humanlike form

Yep. And the one who said those words in John 6 was none other than Jesus Christ, right?

The Word who was with God in the beginning BECAME the flesh being Jesus of Nazareth – just like the scriptures tell us. The “Jesus” who spoke the words in John 6 WAS the very “Word” who was with God in the beginning. That is why the man “Jesus” was able to say – with all honesty – that he literally came down from heaven.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Quite so.
The Spirit spoke through the anointed Jesus.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Heb 1.2
“in these last days God has spoken to us in His Son..”

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,17:46)

Hi MB, Quite so. The Spirit spoke through the anointed Jesus.

So then it was “The Spirit” who was stranded on earth, and no longer actually in heaven?

It was “The Spirit” who was sent from heaven, and hoped to soon go back to where he was before?

Is that it, Nick?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,18:50)

Hi MB, Heb 1.2 “in these last days God has spoken to us in His Son..”

Post the rest of the verse.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Are you unfamiliar with the Spirit, and His work?

[NickHassan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2014,11:50)

Hi MB, Heb 1.2 “in these last days God has spoken to us in His Son..”

Hi MB,
The part of a verse shown reveals that God speaks through his Son.

That was the point as you thought Jesus was speaking about his flesh self

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
The flesh contributes nothing.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Did you really think the Spirit could not be on earth as well as in heaven??

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Ps 139 7-10

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,19:30)

Hi MB, Did you really think the Spirit could not be on earth as well as in heaven??

I believe the Spirit could ONLY be on earth AND in heaven. The Spirit doesn't ever separate from God.

So my point is that “The Spirit” would NEVER say it would soon ascend to where it was before – because it would have forever been in heaven – even while it was on earth.

Now do you get the point?

It couldn't have been the Spirit saying he would ascend to where he was before. And it couldn't have been God saying it, since God never left heaven either. So then, WHO said he would ascend to where he was before? The man Jesus Christ, right? And when, exactly, was Jesus in heaven?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,19:26)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2014,11:50) Hi MB, Heb 1.2 “in these last days God has spoken to us in His Son..” Hi MB, The part of a verse shown reveals that God speaks through his Son. That was the point as you thought Jesus was speaking about his flesh self

 Here, I'll post it for you:

2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

Btw, Jesus' “flesh self” was the ONLY thing that could have said he would ascend to where he was before. Neither God nor the Spirit ever left heaven in the first place, and therefore could not say those words. Only the being of the Word/Jesus left heaven completely, and would later end up going back to where he was from originally.

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