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TT,
You are beyond hope.
Since God contains everything how can something within him be greater than or even equal to him.
Can a part (amongst many parts) be equal to the whole?
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,13:20) Please can you quote me a verse stating that “Noone has seen God in his full Glory” Please can you quote me a verse stating that “Noone has seen Jesus in his full Glory”
JADon't have to. The scriptures teach that no one can see God and live, yet they teach that men have seen God!
Isaiah Chapter 6, did Isaiah see the Lord “YHWH” or not?
So you live with a contradiction, while I don't!
Blessings WJ
TT,
When Jesus was anointed at his baptism, God spoke through the vessel of the atmostphere (Clouds?) energising teh atoms to simulate a human audible voice.
Where was Jesus/God? So God was speaking to God and being anointed by God as God who had been God but was now man – wholly man …(Haven't we been here before?)
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,13:31) JA Moses did not “see” God, all the other people who claim to have seen God did not “See” God – They only believed that that was who they saw but if they had they would not have lived to tell anyone.
JAAnd why should I believe you rather than the testimony of the ones that were there and claimed they did see him, and the Holy Spirit saw to pen in the scriptures exaclty what they saw?
Your understanding puts God somewhere way off in heaven and unreachable because he cannot reveal himself in any form that he pleases!
Blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 09 2010,06:07) TT, You are beyond hope.
Since God contains everything how can something within him be greater than or even equal to him.
Can a part (amongst many parts) be equal to the whole?
JA,You minimize the love of Jesus just like all other anti-trinitarians here. He EXPLICITLY said, “Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his own life for another.”
If Jesus was not God in the flesh , then His love surpassed the love of God. God only “so loved” while Christ loved in the highest sense possible.
If you confess the truth that Christ was God in the flesh, then your conundrum disappears and the love of God becomes equal to the love of Christ.
thinker
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,13:31) I think you are debasing God. You are thinking of him with a human mind – and even a human in a high position would not do what you are saying that God did.
JANo, I think it is the human mind that is debasing an infinite God by limiting him to not being able to become whatever he wants to become!
Blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,14:16) WJ,
You mean “Can't”
JANot true.
Moses saw his back but could not look at his face or he would die!
Why do you not believe Moses testimony?
Jesus said if you don't believe Moses words then you wouldn't believe his of if someone was raised from the dead!
Blessings WJ
WJ,
You too don't know what you write.
You and TT have both lost it.
My belief in God has no contradictions.
I have illustrated it many times bth in words and by diagram.I don't see you or TT doing the same.
All you are doing is defending your belief with your backs againts the wall – a failrly 'comfortable' position given that all you need do is post some rediculous nonsesens and watch while “some” of us scrabble about in confusion trying to make sense of your own 'conundrums'.
Yes, I do see from many of the posts that you fool many – and others do not come up against you – and for good reason – Intelligence (say, Cleverness – and wiley at that) – is not all in the Wise or knowledgeable.
Your last post for instance – Makes no sense.
I think you are confusing me with someone others who you are trying to trick.
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,14:15) TT, When Jesus was anointed at his baptism, God spoke through the vessel of the atmostphere (Clouds?) energising teh atoms to simulate a human audible voice.
Where was Jesus/God? So God was speaking to God and being anointed by God as God who had been God but was now man – wholly man …(Haven't we been here before?)
JAYet the Holy Spirit sat upon him as a Dove.
This is clearly a manifestation of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Matt 28:19
Blessing WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,14:25) WJ, You too don't know what you write.
You and TT have both lost it.
My belief in God has no contradictions.
I have illustrated it many times bth in words and by diagram.I don't see you or TT doing the same.
All you are doing is defending your belief with your backs againts the wall – a failrly 'comfortable' position given that all you need do is post some rediculous nonsesens and watch while “some” of us scrabble about in confusion trying to make sense of your own 'conundrums'.
Yes, I do see from many of the posts that you fool many – and others do not come up against you – and for good reason – Intelligence (say, Cleverness – and wiley at that) – is not all in the Wise or knowledgeable.
Your last post for instance – Makes no sense.
I think you are confusing me with someone others who you are trying to trick.
Hi allThere it is. The truth is plainly put to him and finally he resorts to accusations and condemnation.
No longer does he have a valid response so resort to weakness! SAD!
Blessings WJ
WJ,
What does thescripture say about what Moses saw?
God is a Spirit.
Which part of a Spirit has a front or back side?
Which part of a Spirit can you see with your eyes.
You have started making a claim that people saw God and now you have to keep making more and more vague references to substantiate your errored remarks. (The Truth will out!)
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 09 2010,06:15) TT, When Jesus was anointed at his baptism, God spoke through the vessel of the atmostphere (Clouds?) energising teh atoms to simulate a human audible voice.
Where was Jesus/God? So God was speaking to God and being anointed by God as God who had been God but was now man – wholly man …(Haven't we been here before?)
Jesus had union with His Father from a boy. The Father was IN Him and He was IN the Father LONG BEFORE He received the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the union of the Father and the Son was without an intermediate agent.The Holy Spirit was given to Christ for His office in the same way the Spirit was given to others before Him. It spoke nothing of the union He had with His Father PRIOR to that. The Holy Spirit did not unite the Father and the Son any more than it united a man to the Father in old testament times.
thinker
WJ,
God anoints his Human Son with teh Holy Spirit and you say this is Proof of a Trinity?
Then what of teh anointment of the Apostles?
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 08 2010,14:25) Your last post for instance – Makes no sense.
JaDoes this make more since to you?…
“Jesus said if you don't believe Moses words then you wouldn't believe his of if someone was raised from the dead!”
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. John 5:46
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:30, 31
If you do not believe Moses testimony that he saw God the scritpures say that you would not believe Jesus words or if someone came from the dead to tell you!
blessings WJ
Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 09 2010,06:28) WJ, What does thescripture say about what Moses saw?
God is a Spirit.
Which part of a Spirit has a front or back side?
Which part of a Spirit can you see with your eyes.
You have started making a claim that people saw God and now you have to keep making more and more vague references to substantiate your errored remarks. (The Truth will out!)
Angels are spirits too. Yet they appeared in human form at the tomb of Jesus. Are you saying that created spirits have more power than God?thinker
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