The Trinity Doctrine

[JustAskin]

WJ,

'Spritual common sense' was not meant to be taken for examination – it simply means 'those who possess Spiritual Common sense', anyone with even the least amount of spiritual sense, spiritual anointment.

Also, note the 'AND'…

If this is the best you can come back at me for I suggest you just concede as there is nothing in what I have wriitten that relates to my being greater than anyone.

I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader:

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“Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.”

[JustAskin]

I suggest that the two of you (WJ and TT) are out of your depth even in something you both profess to be masters of.

All your retorts are baseless comebacks and unworthy of your 'learning'

Where is the 'meat' in the sandwich of your reponses – I would starve if your were to feed me.

[JustAskin]

TT,

Your retort was not even worth writing – you sound like a 6 year old child. Please think before you write and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your mind and your hand – If I am wrong or mistaken about what I write then you will be guided to a scriptural response – and I will acknowledge the truth of it.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,02:42)

karmarie, Please dont let any one drive you away from gotquestions.org, there is alot of good info. there WITH SCRIPTURE! People get very defensive and dont even try to read to see what its about. I thought it would really help you out. God Bless… katjo

You cannot “lead” a Muslim to Christ because you cannot be a Muslim without already believeing that Jesus is Christ.

You cannot “lead” a Jew to Moses, how ridiculous right? Every Jew has Moses already.

Just how a Christian already has Moses, Muslims already have Christ, Christ was part of Islam from the beginning.

Christians even preach Christ to other Christians because there is no concensus in the Christian world of Christ. I hear people who call themselves Christians that will say that Jehovah's witnesses are not christians, that Mormons are not Christians even that Catholics are not Christians.

What! So if you convert a Muslim to what you call a Christian which Christian would you like them to become?

Would it be acceptable to you for someone to be a Jehohah's witness or would that be not the “right” Christian to be?

Islam doesn't have many Christs to believe in, Just One.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 03 2010,05:04)

TT, Your retort was not even worth writing – you sound like a 6 year old child. Please think before you write and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your mind and your hand – If I am wrong or mistaken about what I write then you will be guided to a scriptural response – and I will acknowledge the truth of it.

Well start thinking man! You're right that God could not visibly reveal Himself to men AS HE IS. But He could veil His glory in human form and reveal Himself that way. You guys imply that God could not visibly reveal Himself to His servants at all.

You put handcuffs on God! I get impatient with people who comment all the time without giving much thought to what they say.

thinker

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2010,04:54)

Hi TT, Jacob wrestled with an angel.[Hosea 12.4] God uses vessels to manifest Himself on earth.

We have been through this before Nick.

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2697

and

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2553

Major Premise: Jacob wrestled with the Messenger (Hosea 12:4)

Minor premise: Jacob wrestled with God (Genesis 32:28-30)

Conclusion: Therefore, the Messenger was God.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So logic leads you to believe God is an angel??

[KangarooJack]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2010,06:07)

Hi TT, So logic leads you to believe God is an angel??

You said “angel.” I said “messenger.” But continue on your merry way picking and choosing the scriptures you will believe and not believe.

Jacob called the place where he wrestled with God “Peniel” for he had seen God face to face. Just go on pitting scripture against itself.

thinker

[NickHassan]

Hi TT,
So God is a messenger? For WHO?

[JustAskin]

TT,
God came to earth in the guise of a 'messenger' – 'messenger' from whom?… and was prevailed against by a human?

TT, I beg you reconsider your views before you fall even further from reality.

I have warned you before.

[Anonymous]

b.d. There is so many scriptures that tell us the Lord Jesus is our God. That He is the creator, and came to earth in the flesh to take on the sins of the world himself, and when He accomplished what He came to do He returned to the glory He had before the world was. He lived as a man, tempted by sin but could not sin because He was God.(He partially emptied His self of that role when He came to earth.So at the time the Father role was greater. all them parrables was to teach us about Himself! He knew what He was going to go threw when He came to earth. He said He had to fulfill the scriptures, but when he accomplished it He returned to the glory He had before the beginning of the world.Being the Son doesnt mean a son like we have, Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit!(Jesus is also called the son of David but He is not litlerally His son) Ephesians 2;20 tells us Christ is the most important stone in that building, and that whole building is joined together in Christ. He is our Lord God

God Bless.
katjo

[Worshipping Jesus]

Duplicate post!

[Worshipping Jesus]

Hi JA

Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 02 2010,12:55)

I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader: Quote “Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.”

Was Moses absurd when he saw the backside of God?

And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.  And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And “I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Ex 33:18-23  

Blessings WJ

[karmarie]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,02:42)

karmarie, Please dont let any one drive you away from gotquestions.org, there is alot of good info. there WITH SCRIPTURE! People get very defensive and dont even try to read to see what its about. I thought it would really help you out. God Bless… katjo

Hi Katjo

I did have a look yesterday and its bookmarked so when iv got as bit more time ok, thanks though. I havent forgotten or ignored.

[karmarie]

Sorry Katjo, 'got questions' failed my first test in Christian websites (Hell is eternal torment) which I dont believe.

http://www.gotquestions.org/hell-real-eternal.html

Once I read that I stop reading.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10)

b.d. There is so many scriptures that tell us the Lord Jesus is our God. That He is the creator, and came to earth in the flesh to take on the sins of the world himself, and when He accomplished what He came to do He returned to the glory He had before the world was. He lived as a man, tempted by sin but could not sin because He was God.(He partially emptied His self of that role when He came to earth.So at the time the Father role was greater. all them parrables was to teach us about Himself! He knew what He was going to go threw when He came to earth. He said He had to fulfill the scriptures, but when he accomplished it He returned to the glory He had before the beginning of the world.Being the Son doesnt mean a son like we have, Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit!(Jesus is also called the son of David but He is not litlerally His son) Ephesians 2;20 tells us Christ is the most important stone in that building, and that whole building is joined together in Christ. He is our Lord God God Bless. katjo

But tell me who is his God? Jesus said he had a God in-fact he even said this as the risen Christ in revelations

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Revelation 3:11-13

Wow! look how important Jesus thought it was to mention his God, So will you accept the God that Jesus worships today?

Even if we agreed that Jesus was a god, wouldn't the God he worships be THE MOST HIGH?

Jesus says that The MOST HIGH is:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 17:2-4

Two things here 1. Jesus says you must know that there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD and 2. that we must believe he was sent by THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

Now if Jesus came on his own accord how is it he says he was sent? Who sent him?

You said he could not sin but was tempted, right?

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
James 1:12-14

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Being the Son doesnt mean a son like we have, Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit!

I totally agree!

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(Jesus is also called the son of David but He is not litlerally His son)

I totally agree!

God Bless you and Peace be upon you.

[bodhitharta]

By the way Mary was not “impregnated by the Holy Spirit”

And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Luke 1:34-36

Jesus was conceived with/by the Power of God.

To understand look at this:

Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.
Acts 5:14-16

Of course we know Peter wouldn't be impregnating them but healing them with the Power of the Holy Spirit within him.

[Anonymous]

Karmarie, sorry ,But do you know it doesnt matter if we like it or not, Its what God says will happen. and it is very scriptual. we are suppose to fear God but not be afraid of Him. You know thats why we have a choice to follow God or not. BUT im, not worried about it because I know Jesus is my Savior, and Ive excepted Him, and I live by Gods word. so that is a place im not going to. Praise God for that. See alot of people want to not beleive in hell, because it sounds so bad But we cant ignore it when its in the word! do you know there is more scripture in the bible about hell than there is about heaven? Our preacher preaches on hell and Im glad He does, It makes you think and keeps you in line. Can I have your opion on that?

God Bless…
katjo

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,14:45)

Karmarie, sorry ,But do you know it doesnt matter if we like it or not, Its what God says will happen. and it is very scriptual. we are suppose to fear God but not be afraid of Him. You know thats why we have a choice to follow God or not. BUT im, not worried about it because I know Jesus is my Savior, and Ive excepted Him, and I live by Gods word. so that is a place im not going to. Praise God for that. See alot of people want to not beleive in hell, because it sounds so bad But we cant ignore it when its in the word! do you know there is more scripture in the bible about hell than there is about heaven? Our preacher preaches on hell and Im glad He does, It makes you think and keeps you in line. Can I have your opion on that? God Bless… katjo

You haven't answered my post

[Ed J]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2010,05:14)

You put handcuffs on God! thinker

Hi Thinker,

What if God put restrictions on himself “as part of a Challenge” between himself and satan, before the foundation of the world?
Have you ever considered this as a possibility?

Ed J

[Author]

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