The Trinity Doctrine

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B.D but remember He partially emptied Himself of God role when He came to earth as man. thats why speaking in parrables He is teaching us who is greater. His God position was greater at the time when He was on earth.. But returned to the glory He had befor the world began. 2peter 1;11 even tells us we will be given a very great welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He is our Lord(God). Col. 2;(9) says;In Him(christ) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead Bodily. When you find time you should read Col. chapter 1,2,3 (not very long) Its all about Christ. let me know what you think.

God Bless…katjo

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 03 2010,11:42)

Hi JA Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 02 2010,12:55) I openly acknowledge that interpretation is down to the reader: Quote “Any interpretation is bound in the mind of teh interpretaer but to say it was God himself is truly absurd.” Was Moses absurd when he saw the backside of God? And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.  And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And “I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Ex 33:18-23   Blessings WJ

God doesn't have a backside.

He sends visible images of himself to represent himself. Even the NT writers new that it was an angel.

The only way we can see God is through something visible. Jesus is the greatest revelation of God, followed by other angels, people, and other living beings. Even creation shows God's glory and we can look at it and know certain things about God by looking at what he made and whom he sends.

I think it is fair to say that if you have seen Christ you have seen God. But it is not meant to be taken that he is God.

Again, the only way to see the invisible God is through something or someone who is visible.

God is spirit and he is eternal. He is not like us so that we can see his backside WJ. You need to understand that when we see God it is seeing the invisible God through a messenger or whatever.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,15:31)

B.D but remember He partially emptied Himself of God role when He came to earth as man. thats why speaking in parrables He is teaching us who is greater. His God position was greater at the time when He was on earth.. But returned to the glory He had befor the world began. 2peter 1;11 even tells us  we will be given a very great welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He is our Lord(God). Col. 2;(9) says;In Him(christ) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead Bodily. When you find time you should read Col. chapter 1,2,3 (not very long) Its all about Christ. let me know what you think. God Bless…katjo

I have read Colosssians chapters 1-3 as you requested

Colossians 1:3 (King James Version)

3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

Once agin colossians is speaking of the God of Jesus, Who is this God of Jesus?

Colossians 3
1If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

If Christ is God how is it he sits on the right hand of God?

Let's reason together

God Bless you and Peace be upon you.

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 02 2010,20:09)

Ed, I dont follow the books of Paul

Hi Karmarie,

That's probably why you don't know GOD(YHVH) very well.
And that's also why satan's deceptions through BD have a grip on you.

I have come to seek the Lost.

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 02 2010,22:36)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2010,13:51) This is PROOF the “HolySpirit” is NOT in Him! Further these verses apply to BD as well… Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the HolySpirit(speaketh against the HolySpirit), it shall not be forgiven him; neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Mathew 12:32 Sorry your remark above is what I was actually refering to previously Blasphemy against the Spirit was a sin which could only be committed by the Pharisees during the life of Jesus. To Say that Jesus was doing his work by the power of Satan. This is what I believe.

Hi Karmarie,

Well that is NOT what blasphemy against the “HolySpirit” is!
Blasphemy against the “HolySpirit” is: Rejecting the “HolySpirit” as GOD!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:03)

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 02 2010,20:09) Ed, I dont follow the books of Paul Hi Karmarie, That's probably why you don't know GOD(YHVH) very well. And that's also why satan's deceptions through BD have a grip on you. I have come to seek the Lost. Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You should be ashamed of yourself trying to promote false guilt.

Are you saying that only the books of Paul teach the ways of Christ? How foolish, what about the words of Christ themselves do they mean nothing to you or are they secondary to Paul's writings?

Paul says “I am” more than any other writer in the Bible, so what do you say about that?

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,02:36)

Ed, you for got to mention (holy spirit) CHrist is in you!

Hi Katjo,

What do you mean by this?

Ed J

[Ed J]

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10)

Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit! God Bless. katjo

Hi Katjo,

Tell this to WJ and TT, they have a hard time believing “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:11)

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,02:36) Ed, you for got to mention (holy spirit) CHrist is in you! Hi Katjo, What do you mean by this? Ed J

katjo is saying that the Holy Spirit is Christ,

So what do you say ED?

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 03 2010,13:01)

Sorry Katjo,  'got questions' failed my first test in Christian websites (Hell is eternal torment) which I dont believe. http://www.gotquestions.org/hell-real-eternal.html Once I read that I stop reading.

Hi Karmarie,

Why do you let the lies BD spews sway you then, he believes that also.
Ask Stuart to post what the 'book of fraud' says,
then you can stop reading that garbage as well!

Ed J

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:17)

Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10) Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit! God Bless. katjo Hi Katjo, Tell this to WJ and TT, they have a hard time believing “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No they don't they believe just like you. Holy Spirit did not impregnate except by Power.

Adam and Jesus are either both sons or both servants or both servants and sons.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:09)

Paul says “I am” more than any other writer in the Bible, so what do you say about that?

1Timothy 1:15: This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Acceptation: acceptance, to agree to, to receive as true, to believe!

But you will deny this “Bible Truth”=117!
Proving you have 'antichrist'=121 'perception'=121!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:42)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:09) Paul says “I am” more than any other writer in the Bible, so what do you say about that? 1Timothy 1:15: This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Acceptation: acceptance, to agree to, to receive as true, to believe! But you will deny this “Bible Truth”=117! Proving you have 'antichrist'=121 'perception'=121! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

And yet you do not accept, you condemn.

What's more is you condemn the Truth, ISLAM is THE TRUTH.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:18)

what do you say ED?

Does Katjo need you as an interpreter? I don't!

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:34)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:17) Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10) Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit! God Bless. katjo Hi Katjo, Tell this to WJ and TT, they have a hard time believing “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No they don't they believe just like you.

BD spews lies, lies and more lies.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:48)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:34) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:17) Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10) Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit! God Bless. katjo Hi Katjo, Tell this to WJ and TT, they have a hard time believing “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No they don't they believe just like you. BD spews lies, lies and more lies.

They do believe that Jesus is the son of God! Why did you say that is a lie?

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Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 02 2010,01:13)

Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 01 2010,03:33) Ed     -Bodhitharta's God is your God-   Karmarie, What if I came up to you and told you we both had the same father. When you asked me to describe “our father”, there were some common characteristics, but others were different. I said he was 6' 2″ while your father is 5' 10″. I said he had jet black hair (when younger) and your father had blonde hair. I said he spoke with an English accent, when you know your father has a flat Midwest American accent. Would you agree with me that we had the same father, knowing these differences? There are many differences between the described Muslim god and the Christian god. Why should anyone conclude they are the same god then? Unlike your father though, DNA testing cannot be done to prove the truth of the matter. And neither the god of Islam or the god of Christianity seem to be willing to clarify the situation. Heck, neither god seems to be able to reign in the confusion amongst their own personal followers!

Correction, men are confused. God is not the God of confusion. It is men who are confused.

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:43)

And yet you do not accept, you condemn. What's more is you condemn the Truth, ISLAM is THE TRUTH.

Islam and Jesus teachings are not from the same source.

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Oh, this topic is about the Trinity.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:57)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:48) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 03 2010,17:34) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2010,17:17) Quote (katjo @ Feb. 03 2010,11:10) Mary was pregnant by the Holy Spirit! God Bless. katjo Hi Katjo, Tell this to WJ and TT, they have a hard time believing “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Father! Witnessing to the world in behalf of… 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17) Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org No they don't they believe just like you. BD spews lies, lies and more lies. 1) They do believe that Jesus is the son of God! 2) Why did you say that is a lie?

Hi BD,

1) You didn't say: They believe that Jesus is the son of God!
2) And I didn't say: 'that is a lie'. Get your FACTS Straight!

I said: BD spews lies, lies and more lies. Because you said…
No they don't they believe just like you.

If you want to converse with me be honest; OK?
When you ask questions, ask because you…
want to learn, then and only then will I answer.
If you ask questions with 'crafty wording' intending
any response by me will support your faulty beliefs,
then I will just ignore the questions! Because as I said before…

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2010,15:01)

Hi BD, If you are “truly” “serious” about this Bible study, than only ask me ONE question at a time; OK? If your goal is to try to 'trick' me into helping support your faulty beliefs, then you 'are' wasting our time? Because I will NOT give you information that can be used against me! Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

If you are going to play with me, you are GOING to play by my rules!
Do you think I don't mean what I say? Ask Karmerie, she will tell you.

Rejecting “HolySpirit” as GOD is the “Only” unforgivable sin.
You still can “Repent”; accepting Jesus' Father as GOD.
If you refuse that is your choice, but I strongly recommend you don't!
I consider you my brother, and I hate to see satan have his way with you.

Jesus' Father(HolySpirit) is the REAL GOD,
if you want to get to know Him, I will help you learn.
But if you continue to spew satanic garbage, I will just ignore you.
And I will “ONLY” respond if I think others might swallow your lies.

Prov:15:12: A scorner loveth not(Ed J) one that reproveth him(BD):
                  neither will he go unto [the wise GOD YHVH].
Prov:3:11: My son(Salomon speaking in GOD's behalf), despise not
                 the chastening of the LORD(Ed J acting in GOD's behalf);
                 neither be weary of (יהוה האלהים) his correction:

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD)YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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