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Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 08 2009,05:17) In other words there would be no reason to call The Holy Spirit “God” nor is it written in any scripture at all.
Hi BD,You have just described what it means to blaspheme the HolySpirit(GOD). Why do you chose to worship satan?
Matt.1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together, she was found with child of the HolySpirit.Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The HolySpirit shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing(Jesus)
which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.(The Son of HolySpirit)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 08 2009,05:31) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26) the holy spirit is not god. your right. it is what he has used to do his will.
Then why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgiveable?thinker
Hi Thinker,Good point, it shows you really are a thinker!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,11:28) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 09 2009,11:25) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,11:14) You really believe that studying for 4 months while still not being fully devoted to God makes you qualified to teach?
to be shown truth in the scriptures that are there to see and not man's own opinion has nothing to do with the years one has decided to persue such path.if a person learns a trade such as carpentry but does only as a hobby and has understanding of it, is he less qualifed as much as one who may do it as a living.
i think not.
your selfish pride is blocking the truth.
i tell you what if something is there plain as day and the person is not a challenged mental handicap. why should time be a factor in it.
its not hard to read teh scriptures and see the truth it tells.
all you got to do is open your eyes, open the bible, read the scriptures that will tell you what you seek adn then absorb it.
walla, not that hard.
you are now being prideful and ignorant
You see but are blind, May God open your eyes!
Hi BD,You sound like the Pharisees; why do you chose to remain in your sin?
John 9:40-4140 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye(BD) say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 09 2009,11:29) wow, really i said i was an expert huh.. hmmm don't recall that. i do recall having discussion wit hyou on topics that ar ein the bible and tell you what you seek.
i did not teach, all i did was point out the scriptures for you and show you the truth to the questions you deny or ignor or try to disprove.
does showing something from the bible to help show an answer to a question – make them a expert, i don't think so and i never implied i was.
your angry because you will not accept.
I'm not angry with you at all, there's nothing wrong with what you believe or the way you believe it, just keep learning.
But don't be so quick to Judge even Jesus said for you not to do that so why do you do judge?
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,11:35) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,14:21) However you do admit That you worship the God of Jesus and to do that you must not worship any other “God” because
A. There is no other God to worship and
B. It violates the first and greatest commandment which may amount to blasphemy as it is slanderous to violate the sovereignty of God.
Hi BD,If there was 'no other god' to worship (as you say),then you would worship my GOD!
But there is 'another god' and His correct title is 'satan'(which means accuser).
Turn to the living GOD, He offers you forgiveness for your sins.
You rejecting Him(HolySpirit) is the only unforgivable sin!
Is that what you really want?
You said there is another God but God Himself says that:“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
but you disagree with God?
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,12:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 13 2009,06:40) Studying the Quran there is never any confusion over who is or is not God.
Hi BD,Then why are you so confused?
I'm NotQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,13:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,10:57) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26) you hold up high Quran and muhammad.
you believe that they are truth and right.
that the teachings before are incomplete or wrong or twisted.
tht is why you will never accept the scriptures in plain sight when shown to you that are dead on, exact wording, pefect meaning to questions you have.
that is why you try so hard to disprove all except that in quran.
that is why you use scriptures that pertain to nothing in a discussion to avoid and demean god's word.
that is why you only use holy scriptures for dishones things.
quran and muhammad are not god almighys inpired words and your allah is not that same god wither.
if he was you would accept truths and not only uphold yours a true adn right.
people here are only trying to show you the truth of topics and scriptures, your reply to such help by spreading falsehoods, denial, demeaning things and constant disproval of god's word.
i've only tried to show you answers but you only try to ignore and deny and demean the word of god.
i've tried to show and explain to you your scriptures hold no light of truth to the topic at hand and in no way reference or are related to any topic in discussion.
but i now know that that is your goal.
i think you should not try to defend yourself when one is only showing you truth and better understanding.
truth is truth and if you love god as you say you should ake that new knowledge and understanding to heart and let it grow within and let the spiritual growth from it eminate into the wroks adn direction it brings you.
What you say about me is untrue but you are very young and new to understanding so I forgive you. God bless you, I do hope you learn over time greater truth than you know today
Hi BD,Like the deceptive truths that you hold.
It's up to you, what you accept as true but it is not up to you what is TRUTHQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,13:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 08 2009,05:17) In other words there would be no reason to call The Holy Spirit “God” nor is it written in any scripture at all.
Hi BD,You have just described what it means to blaspheme the HolySpirit(GOD). Why do you chose to worship satan?
Matt.1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together, she was found with child of the HolySpirit.Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The HolySpirit shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing(Jesus)
which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.(The Son of HolySpirit)
You have just answered your own questionThe Holy Spirit is The Power of The Highest
Pay attention:
And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!
Numbers 11:28-30Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 39:28-29There you have it!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,15:32) Quote
Hi BD,If there was 'no other god' to worship (as you say),then you would worship my GOD!
But there is 'another god' and His correct title is 'satan'(which means accuser).
Turn to the living GOD, He offers you forgiveness for your sins.
You rejecting Him(HolySpirit) is the only unforgivable sin!
Is that what you really want?
You said there is another God but God Himself says that:“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
but you disagree with God?
Hi BD,I only agree with truth, not the lies you spew?
2Cor.4:2-4 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty(lies), not walking in craftiness,
nor handling the word of God deceitfully(who would do this?);
but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves
to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
But if our(Christian) gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost(GOD is calling you back):
In whom the god of this world(guess who?) hath blinded the minds of them(you BD) which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,16:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,15:32) Quote
Hi BD,If there was 'no other god' to worship (as you say),then you would worship my GOD!
But there is 'another god' and His correct title is 'satan'(which means accuser).
Turn to the living GOD, He offers you forgiveness for your sins.
You rejecting Him(HolySpirit) is the only unforgivable sin!
Is that what you really want?
You said there is another God but God Himself says that:“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
but you disagree with God?
Hi BD,I only agree with truth, not the lies you spew?
2Cor.4:2-4 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty(lies), not walking in craftiness,
nor handling the word of God deceitfully(who would do this?);
but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves
to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
But if our(Christian) gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost(GOD is calling you back):
In whom the god of this world(guess who?) hath blinded the minds of them(you BD) which believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
So you assume the “God” of this world has blinded the eyes?Let's just see who that is.
John 12:39-41 (King James Version)
39Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.
For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Matthew 13:14-16That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
Mark 4:11-13Who has blinded their eyes? You read an error in the scripture and actually believed that there was another God, how easily you are deceived. God forgive you for calling another “God”
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,16:10) Who has blinded their eyes? You read an error in the scripture and actually believed that there was another God, how easily you are deceived. God forgive you for calling another “God”
Hi BD,Your words continue to show the grip satan has on you.
1John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you:
because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness,
and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes(guess who?).When will you turn from satan to the living GOD my brother?
2Cor.3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil
untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 09 2009,16:26) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,16:10) Who has blinded their eyes? You read an error in the scripture and actually believed that there was another God, how easily you are deceived. God forgive you for calling another “God”
Hi BD,Your words continue to show the grip satan has on you.
1John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you:
because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness,
and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes(guess who?).When will you turn from satan to the living GOD my brother?
2Cor.3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil
untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ.
Hi Ed.he doesn't believe in the god's good new the holy scriptures, he will never accept until he comes to that.
if he did he would listen to the scriptures shown that speak truth to his denial. however he won't because his teachings are only of the quran.
islam is his way. the quran is true theoughout they believe it is not corrupted as they think the holy scriptures are.
why do you think they use it as there way of life.
thats why they hold muhammad over christ because they hold up high his teachings.
one will not accept if one beleives not.
i can go through red lights driving my car but i know it means stop. that doesn't mean im right or should.
i can, but its not the way just because i choose to ignore
Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,10:36) Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 08 2009,05:31) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26) the holy spirit is not god. your right. it is what he has used to do his will.
Then why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgiveable?thinker
because it is god's works. god's own hand in a miracle or act or whatever.if a man makes a great piece of art and you go and say nasty false hurtful thing and deny who made it or gave false information about it, etc..
you are hurting and doing damage to the creator or owner of the thing being done or made.
but if your against his son which has nothig to do with what ws done, then thats not the same is it.
Jesus also performed God's works and they blasphemed Him. Yet blasphemy against the Son is forgiveable. So the issue cannot be merely about God's works.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 10 2009,03:22) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,10:36) Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 08 2009,05:31) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26) the holy spirit is not god. your right. it is what he has used to do his will.
Then why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgiveable?thinker
because it is god's works. god's own hand in a miracle or act or whatever.if a man makes a great piece of art and you go and say nasty false hurtful thing and deny who made it or gave false information about it, etc..
you are hurting and doing damage to the creator or owner of the thing being done or made.
but if your against his son which has nothig to do with what ws done, then thats not the same is it.
Jesus also performed God's works and they blasphemed Him. Yet blasphemy against the Son is forgiveable. So the issue cannot be merely about God's works.thinker
against jesus they did, not the works itselfQuote (peace2all @ Dec. 10 2009,04:41) Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 10 2009,03:22) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,10:36) Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 08 2009,05:31) Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26) the holy spirit is not god. your right. it is what he has used to do his will.
Then why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgiveable?thinker
because it is god's works. god's own hand in a miracle or act or whatever.if a man makes a great piece of art and you go and say nasty false hurtful thing and deny who made it or gave false information about it, etc..
you are hurting and doing damage to the creator or owner of the thing being done or made.
but if your against his son which has nothig to do with what ws done, then thats not the same is it.
Jesus also performed God's works and they blasphemed Him. Yet blasphemy against the Son is forgiveable. So the issue cannot be merely about God's works.thinker
against jesus they did, not the works itself
Likewise, blasphemy is against the Holy Spirit and not the works themselves.thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2009,05:19) Hi TT,
So Jesus is not his God?
The blessed vessel is not the precious treasure within?
You betray yourself Nick. You show that you do not treasure Christ. Peter said that Christ is precious to those who believe.“Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,
“ The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone”Strong's# 5092 “esteemed valuable”
thinker
Hi TT,
The Lord is the Spirit.
Jesus died and lives now by the Spirit of God.
This should be your hope too so do not cast scorn on it.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2009,06:29) Hi TT,
The Lord is the Spirit.
Jesus died and lives now by the Spirit of God.
This should be your hope too so do not cast scorn on it.
Huh?thinker
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