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Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34) Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Sola Scriptura can easily lead to great doubt and disillusionment…Hi CA,
Since the words of Jesus are life and spirit abhorring them out of fear of deception is deathQuote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,11:12) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34) Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Sola Scriptura can easily lead to great doubt and disillusionment…
CA,
Blame “Sola Scriptura” why don't you. Men were denying our Lord was crucified long before the Protestant Reformation. Here we have a man who doubts our Lord was crucified and you can't put down the gloves long enough to identify the real culprit which is anti-trinitarianism.Keep talking like this and I will lose respect for you quickly.
thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,11:52) Hi TT,
There is no such thing as antitrinitarianism.
There is no trinity in scripture-game over
Yeah whatever.thinker
Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,11:50) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,11:12) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34) Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Sola Scriptura can easily lead to great doubt and disillusionment…
CA,
Blame “Sola Scriptura” why don't you. Men were denying our Lord was crucified long before the Protestant Reformation. Here we have a man who doubts our Lord was crucified and you can't put down the gloves long enough to identify the real culprit which is anti-trinitarianism.Keep talking like this and I will lose respect for you quickly.
thinker
Yes, anti-Trinitariansim specifically.However, the issue I am referring to is human weakness. Some men get so stuck on the fact that God is one that they must go through great mental feats to explain away the doctrine of the Trinity. (i.e. the pronouns used by St. John in the gospel he wrote to refer to the persons of the Trinity. or the plural of Elohim in the OT)
Not trying to put the gloves on at all here. Just lamenting based on how I see things. I really am lamenting. This is tragic.
Hi CA,
Half full or half empty?
God can teach even children.
Your have chosen death ahead of life it seemsQuote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,12:06) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,11:50) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,11:12) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34) Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Sola Scriptura can easily lead to great doubt and disillusionment…
CA,
Blame “Sola Scriptura” why don't you. Men were denying our Lord was crucified long before the Protestant Reformation. Here we have a man who doubts our Lord was crucified and you can't put down the gloves long enough to identify the real culprit which is anti-trinitarianism.Keep talking like this and I will lose respect for you quickly.
thinker
Yes, anti-Trinitariansim specifically.However, the issue I am referring to is human weakness. Some men get so stuck on the fact that God is one that they must go through great mental feats to explain away the doctrine of the Trinity. (i.e. the pronouns used by St. John in the gospel he wrote to refer to the persons of the Trinity. or the plural of Elohim in the OT)
Not trying to put the gloves on at all here. Just lamenting based on how I see things. I really am lamenting. This is tragic.
So , God is not One Lord?Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,12:06) Yes, anti-Trinitariansim specifically. However, the issue I am referring to is human weakness. Some men get so stuck on the fact that God is one that they must go through great mental feats to explain away the doctrine of the Trinity. (i.e. the pronouns used by St. John in the gospel he wrote to refer to the persons of the Trinity. or the plural of Elohim in the OT)
Not trying to put the gloves on at all here. Just lamenting based on how I see things. I really am lamenting. This is tragic.
If you do not believe that God is 2 persons, then are you an anti-binatarian. Correct?Shouldn't it be that those who do not teach one God the Father as the true God, are anti one God?
Labelling people as anti_trinitarian is a bit silly because those same people are probably anti-binity and anti-quinity as well.
Why choose the number 3?
Scripture teaches clearly that there is one God who is the Father and that this one true God sent Jesus into the world.
For us there is one God the Father.
Actually Nick, having several gods in one committee is the Trinity. They teach 3 as the Most High, but argue that the one part is that they are one group.
Very clever and within the realms of deception don't you think?
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,05:21) Don't you find it fascinating that all of you little sects disagree with each other wildly BUT YOU ALL AGREE ON ONE THING….YOU CAN'T STAND THE REAL CHURCH.
Actually, the reality is that I do not want to be gullible by accepting a Church that is not the body of Christ.I think we all know deep down that we will know them by their fruits.
The fruit of the RCC is not good. Unless history is wrong, the RCC has a very bad historical record and the fact that some apologies have been made in recent times is an acknowledgement of these bad things by the RCC.
A good tree bears good fruit CA. This is what Jesus taught us.
Is it not better to see the true Church rather than be blinded by the one that shares the same name as the beast if came from?
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 14 2009,16:08) Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 11 2009,05:21) Don't you find it fascinating that all of you little sects disagree with each other wildly BUT YOU ALL AGREE ON ONE THING….YOU CAN'T STAND THE REAL CHURCH.
Actually, the reality is that I do not want to be gullible by accepting a Church that is not the body of Christ.I think we all know deep down that we will know them by their fruits.
The fruit of the RCC is not good. Unless history is wrong, the RCC has a very bad historical record and the fact that some apologies have been made in recent times is an acknowledgement of these bad things by the RCC.
A good tree bears good fruit CA. This is what Jesus taught us.
Is it not better to see the true Church rather than be blinded by the one that shares the same name as the beast if came from?
Your crazy claim is distressing. Not that you are making it. But that you actually believe it.The truth is that the Church has consistently produced the saintliest of men in every generation. From Saint Polycarp of Smyrna who was martyred to Saint Maximilian Kobe who gave his life in the prison of Auschwitz the Church stands apart from the rest as a shining beacon of faith, hope and love.
If the Church hasn't just produced good fruit, but the best.
Don't you find it fascinating that inspite of all of your claims to the contrary, the Church still holds the highest standards of Holiness and Moral purity of any faith on planet earth?
Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 13 2009,19:12) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34) Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36) CA said: Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points. Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club. CA,
You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a Muslim who denies that Jesus was crucified.thinker
Maybe he wasn't?
So you now question that Christ was crucified?thinker
Sola Scriptura can easily lead to great doubt and disillusionment…
CAThis is not a fair statement. For you have been preaching the Catholic Church as the “Only True Church”, yet I see all kinds of doubt and unbelief and disagreement with you also!
WJ
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