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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,07:47) Hi,
Most believers have grown up with trinity teaching and have no other concept of God. They are fearful to question what has been handed down for generations as 'truth'. However if we accept that scripture is the judge of truth then honest seekers will check all their doctrines against scripture to prove their veracity. If they do they will eventually have to confront the facts on this matter.THERE IS NO TRINITY TAUGHT IN SCRIPTURE
Amen and A m e n to that.Peace and >ove Mrs.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,06:55) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2007,06:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,05:45) Hi WJ,
Since trinity is an unlawful addition to the revelation of scripture
how can you resolve your worries without reference to that evil theory?
NHCan you give me a scripture that says the 'Trinity” is an unlawfull addition?
Maybe you can find a scripture that says Yeshua was born again at the Jordan while you are at it, or that he was a son before he was born a son, or that water baptism saves, or that Jesus was made or created before he came in the likeness of sinfull flesh, since these would be additions also.
Maybe you should consider your worries and inferences to those evil additions.
Hi WJ,
No trinity is taught in scripture so this thread is about a humanly inspired mythical addition to the precious words of God.The Son of God was sent into the world.
Thus the Son of God existed before he was sent.
NHLuke 1:35
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.Yeshua was not called the Son of God untill he came in the flesh and was “Born” as a man.
Let me see. You say he was born somewhere in eternity past as a son, then he was born from the virgin Mary, then he was born again at the Jordan.
That would be three times Yeshua was born!!!
Where is the scriptures NH?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,07:47) Hi,
Most believers have grown up with trinity teaching and have no other concept of God. They are fearful to question what has been handed down for generations as 'truth'. However if we accept that scripture is the judge of truth then honest seekers will check all their doctrines against scripture to prove their veracity. If they do they will eventually have to confront the facts on this matter.THERE IS NO TRINITY TAUGHT IN SCRIPTURE
NHWords and accusations mean nothing unless you have scriptural proof. You or nobody on this board has given a full explanation for scriptures that says Yeshua is God, at least not one that is true to the text or worthy of not believing the scriptures that say he is.
Most have to live with contradictions in the word and then blame the translators of foul play. Weak indeed.
ThE WORD “RAPTURE” IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURES, DOES THIS MEAN YESHUA IS NOT COMING AGAIN TO CATCH AWAY THE SAINTS?
Hi WJ,
So you do admit that trinity is not a scriptural teaching but you have found a few other words not in scripture and thus seem to think now you are justified in adding in TRINITY??Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,08:19) Hi WJ,
So you do admit that trinity is not a scriptural teaching but you have found a few other words not in scripture and thus seem to think now you are justified in adding in TRINITY??
NHI admit nothing. You put words in my mouth. The “Word” Trinity is not in scriptures, but the teaching is, just as rapture and many other words that we use to define doctrine or the nature of God.
And, just as you believe that Yeshua was born again at the Jordan, or that a man must be water baptised to be saved , or that Yeshua was God and now is not, or that Yeshua was born 3 times.
I at least have scriptures to support me beliefs, but there is no scriptures for your beliefs above is there?
Hi WJ,
Where is trinity TAUGHT in scripture?
It is not TAUGHT anywhere.
Men have accrued and bound together scriptures that they think, put together, shows God is a trinity.
But it is TAUGHT nowhere.
So why would men put themselves above God as TEACHER?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2007,06:01) Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 14 2007,04:52) Quote I suppose then Jesus was lieing when he said… Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
kenrchFrist of all kenrch this thread is about the “Trinity”, so I will respond to you in the appropriate thread. “Three days and three nights”.
Don't bother!
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2007,11:10) BTW: In case it hasn't been made clear, the Trinity doctrine is hocus pocus.
t8Henotheism is hocus pocus because it has holes in it.
It believes that God made everything through a lessor god than himself!
Thats hocus pocus!
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2007,08:50) NH I admit nothing. You put words in my mouth. The “Word” Trinity is not in scriptures, but the teaching is, just as rapture and many other words that we use to define doctrine or the nature of God.
And, just as you believe that Yeshua was born again at the Jordan, or that a man must be water baptised to be saved , or that Yeshua was God and now is not, or that Yeshua was born 3 times.
I at least have scriptures to support me beliefs, but there is no scriptures for your beliefs above is there?
The Trinity is not mentioned or taught in scripture.
Similarly, evolution is not mentioned or taught in scripture.We didn't descend from primitive apes and we are not made in the image of a 3 persons, one God/entity.
OK, conjoined twins exist, but no one is arguing for a Binity anyway.
The myths of men are many.
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 14 2007,11:18) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2007,08:50) NH I admit nothing. You put words in my mouth. The “Word” Trinity is not in scriptures, but the teaching is, just as rapture and many other words that we use to define doctrine or the nature of God.
And, just as you believe that Yeshua was born again at the Jordan, or that a man must be water baptised to be saved , or that Yeshua was God and now is not, or that Yeshua was born 3 times.
I at least have scriptures to support me beliefs, but there is no scriptures for your beliefs above is there?
The Trinity is not mentioned or taught in scripture.
Similarly, evolution is not mentioned or taught in scripture.We didn't descend from primitive apes and we are not made in the image of a 3 persons, one God/entity.
Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Plurality of Unity.
Gen :1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Jn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Col 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:Isa 45:18
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; *God himself* that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.But instead of the Henotheist believing Yeshua is one in nature with the Father, Heb 1:3, their faith looks like this…
Father Almighty God
Son a god
Spirit what God is
men gods
Hi WJ,
You really need to know our God.
Then your confusion with His Son and His Spirit would disipate.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,11:45) Hi WJ,
You really need to know our God.
Then your confusion with His Son and His Spirit would disipate.
NHNo. I dont bow down worship and serve a mere man calling him Lord and Master.
You cant serve 2 masters.
Tell me NH… When the Holy Spirit speaks to you is it Jesus or is it the Father?
Can you tell the difference?
When you say I am obeying God and his voice is it Yeshua or the Father or the Holy Spirit speaking to you?
Or when God speaks to you, have you ever said Yeshua didnt say it, the Father did?
When yoiu say God is doing this or that is it the Father you are speaking of, or is it Yeshua?
When you tell someone the Lord spoke to you, which “Lord” are you speaking of?
Can you give me an example where the Father exclusively Spoke to you apart from the Son or Holy Spirit.
Is there any example of disparity among the Godhead?
Men accuse Trinitarians of God being a “them”.
But how many “thems” do you listen to, and how do you know the difference?
Hi WJ,
Until you have clarified your confusion about God
it is probably wise not to endanger yourself
by falsely teaching that God is a trinity
because that is not taught in scripture.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,12:08) Hi WJ,
Until you have clarified your confusion about God
it is probably wise not to endanger yourself
by falsely teaching that God is a trinity
because that is not taught in scripture.
NHAs usual, I didnt think you would address any of my questions!
Hi WJ,
This is a scripture site.
God reveals the truth about Himself through His Spirit.
If you do not share that blessing then we cannot explain it to you.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2007,12:12) Hi WJ,
This is a scripture site.
God reveals the truth about Himself through His Spirit.
If you do not share that blessing then we cannot explain it to you.
NHYes, of course you cant!!!
You say…
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God reveals the truth about Himself through His Spirit.Is it Yeshua or the Father you are speaking of?
For Jesus said…
Jn 14:21
“He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”W. J. With so much understanding that you have and you have not proven that the trinity is false boggles my mind. When Jesus says that the Father is greater then I, what does He mean by that. Or when in Ephesians 4:6 it says that there is one God and Father of all and above all and in us all. You still believe in the trinity, it just does not make sense to me. Wake up W.J.
Peace and Love Mrs.
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