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- July 23, 2014 at 6:40 am#466091terrariccaParticipant
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it is impossible to see God’s word in the way you see it and yet be true to the truth of God ;
Christ is the fulfilment of the promise, and the new covenant is the covenant between Christ and his disciples the 11 and one to come ,they would be the twelve column the foundation of the new spiritual temple of God with Christ as high priest ,
all others meaning the great crowed we are to benefit from that new covenant but are not in it ,only 1+12 + 144k to be in heaven ,
July 23, 2014 at 6:44 am#466092kerwinParticipantWakeup,
That would make Jesus an exception to the rule that if he did not sacrifice himself and go away the councilor would not come. I agree he is for Jesus himself testified that he was the one that God sanctified and sent into the world, John 10:36. Believers are now sanctified in Christ Jesus, 1 Corinthians 1:2, and not in the old way of Moses, Exodus 19:14.
Before Jesus went away and councilor came believers could only be ceremonially sanctified but afterwards they had the ability and power to live by the teachings of the Holy Spirit in its role as councilor.
July 23, 2014 at 6:52 am#466120kerwinParticipantT,
That is not what God states:
He states:
Jeremiah 31:31Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
You can see yourself that he states the new covenant is with the house of Israel and the house of Judah just like the old covenant is. About the Gentiles Jeremiah writes:
Jeremiah 16:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress,
and my refuge in the day of affliction,
the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say,
Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity,
and things wherein there is no profit.July 23, 2014 at 6:57 am#466194kerwinParticipantT8,
Some Scripture is God speaking his word through men while other is men that live by the spirit voicing what they witnessed. Prophecy and the Laws are God speaking his word. Witness accounts are men living by the spirit voicing their word.
July 23, 2014 at 6:59 am#466195kerwinParticipantT8,
What you said sounds right.
July 23, 2014 at 9:34 am#466534sonofGodParticipantT,
Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
July 23, 2014 at 9:42 am#466537terrariccaParticipanthi sonof god
tell me would your scripture brack what i said ? if so show how ?
July 23, 2014 at 9:48 am#466538terrariccaParticipanthi k
my reply was to this quote of yours ;
<There was a change between the time of the told of in the five gospels and the time of the letters(epistles). Between those two times the new covenant came into effect signed by the sacrifice of Jesus, empowered by the Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, and mediated by Jesus who is in heaven sitting on his throne.
I am not sure that is what son of God is speaking of.>>
it is not easy when the quotes are not circled in ,
July 23, 2014 at 9:58 am#466541sonofGodParticipantT,
The only truths I know about pneuma hagion is what scripture teaches.
Find out what scripture teaches and you will know what I know
July 23, 2014 at 9:59 am#466542sonofGodParticipantT,
Why didn’t God given the entire scripture to Moses to write down?
For that matter, why didn’t God give the entire revelation of all scripture to Adam?
July 23, 2014 at 10:38 am#466590terrariccaParticipanthi
think what you say ; and tell me what i should understand from that ?
because you tell that God is the holy spirit ,but you cannot answer my question ;why would a hand of someone be that someone ?
now if you do not answer me ,thats fine but then why are we talking if you only going to talk from you to others and it become take it or leave it ,
July 23, 2014 at 10:42 am#466606terrariccaParticipanthi sog
<Why didn’t God given the entire scripture to Moses to write down?
For that matter, why didn’t God give the entire revelation of all scripture to Adam?>
it seems to me that God does not respond to possible action ,but to actions ,
July 23, 2014 at 3:14 pm#467458kerwinParticipantT,
I used poor English so perhaps you misunderstood me.There two times and the the second period started at Pentecost when Peter preached the good news to the Jews and converts to Judaism at Pentecost. The first four books of the New Testament bear witness to a time previous to that Pentecost.
July 24, 2014 at 1:44 am#473044terrariccaParticipantK
<second period started at Pentecost when Peter preached the good news to the Jews and converts to Judaism at Pentecost. The first four books of the New Testament bear witness to a time previous to that Pentecost.>
if this was true then the apostles would by no mains quote the OT, the new covenant is a old promise and is new only because the time of redemption came to be ,God shows that he would forgive the sins but some sins cannot go unpunished,God was the same since the beginning ,he never deviate of his plan in Gen;3;15
July 24, 2014 at 4:57 am#473110kerwinParticipantT,
I agree that God does not change but he enacts different covenants.
July 24, 2014 at 1:34 pm#473226WakeupParticipantKerwin.
The soul of a peson can be changed.Jesus does the changing.
There can be the renewing of the mind.
An evil soul can be converted.
The lust of the flesh can be changed to the lust for Godly knowledge.
The spirit of the flesh ceased at death,but the works of the flesh will be stored for judgement.
Will be judged by the book of life.
True christians will have mercy.wakeup.
July 24, 2014 at 1:47 pm#473242WakeupParticipantKerwin.
Jesus said; the comforter will not come until he has gone up to heaven.
He said, I will send him to you.
Because He had to be with His Father first,to receive all powers of the Father.
The comforter will glorify Jesus through believer’s mouths.
Praise Jesus;glory to God, halelujah, that’s what they will shout.wakeup.
July 28, 2014 at 10:12 am#509388GeneBalthropParticipantSonofGod……….Good post i also believe we are living souls which is a body and when the breath of life is functioning in it it becomes known as a “LIVING SOUL”. IT is capable of PERISHING in the GRAVE, and ceasing to exist forever. That is why it is absolutely crucial we attain unto the resurrection of our bodies from there corrupted state of the dead. We like Paul said are hopefully of the resurrection that will wittiness the redemption of our BODIES. Because without a resurrected body after death we simply will never live again. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
July 28, 2014 at 10:36 am#509486WakeupParticipantHi geneB.
So where is the contradiction so far,except you did not mention the spirit of the flesh.
We are all living souls that will be judged.
There were eight souls saved from the flood. Souls=persons.The spirit of the flesh is what ever ones desires in his lifetime.
His driving force; what makes him tick.
What ever he is focused on.This will cease at death.The drive will not be there anymore.
This can be changed; from unGodly to Godly.From bad to good or vice versa.
The soul is the person’s fruit of his lifetime works.wakeup.
July 29, 2014 at 3:13 pm#521923kerwinParticipantWakeup,
The soul of a peson can be changed.Jesus does the changing.
I doubt you are correct. At this point it seems the spirit of man is what is changed as when it is fully changed it always bears witnesses with the Holy Spirit.
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