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Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:33) Gene, Leviticus 17:11
Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.
Leviticus 17:11
***For the life of the flesh is in the blood***:
and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood
***that maketh an atonement for the soul***.***THE SOUL IS NOT IN THE BLOOD***.
wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:33) Gene, Leviticus 17:11
Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.
Kerwin……..why? Because the Blood IS the LIFE of the BODY, which makes one complete SOUL.And scripture does no say the soul is the life of the body , but it says in nearly all translations that the BLOOD is the Life of the BODY.
Peace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,21:40) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:33) Gene, Leviticus 17:11
Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.
Leviticus 17:11
***For the life of the flesh is in the blood***:
and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood
***that maketh an atonement for the soul***.***THE SOUL IS NOT IN THE BLOOD***.
wakeup.
Wakeup………that is right the soul is the COMPLETE PERSON not JUST PART of HIM. The Atonement was for the whole person , not just “PART” of Him. IMOPeace and love to you and yours……………………gene
Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,12:33) Gene, Leviticus 17:11
Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.
Kdoes the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “
LEV 17:11 ‘For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.’
PS 58:10
The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance;
He will wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
ISA 1:11 “ What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me?”
Says the LORD.
“I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams
And the fat of fed cattle;
And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs or goats1CO 10:16 Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ?
REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
I stick with what I have said
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2014,18:13) Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:33) Gene, Leviticus 17:11
Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.
Kerwin……..why? Because the Blood IS the LIFE of the BODY, which makes one complete SOUL.And scripture does no say the soul is the life of the body , but it says in nearly all translations that the BLOOD is the Life of the BODY.
Peace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene
Gene,That could symbolize that that the soul is the life of the body. Taken another way it could be said God breathed the breath of the soul into Adam's nostrils and Adam became a living life(soul).
T,
Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “ I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases. In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it easier for us to translate other passage. My guess is they were afraid certain people would take it literally and do things they ought not to do. In this case I prefer the translation soul though its meaning may well be synonymous to life because I believe it can make it easier for those that seek God' righteousness and his kingdom to translate some hard to understand passages and those that interpret it wrongly will interpret Scripture wrongly anyways.
Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,01:48) T, Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “ I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases. In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it easier for us to translate other passage. My guess is they were afraid certain people would take it literally and do things they ought not to do. In this case I prefer the translation soul though its meaning may well be synonymous to life because I believe it can make it easier for those that seek God' righteousness and his kingdom to translate some hard to understand passages and those that interpret it wrongly will interpret Scripture wrongly anyways.
Kfear enough
Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,02:24) Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,01:48) T, Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “ I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases. In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it easier for us to translate other passage. My guess is they were afraid certain people would take it literally and do things they ought not to do. In this case I prefer the translation soul though its meaning may well be synonymous to life because I believe it can make it easier for those that seek God' righteousness and his kingdom to translate some hard to understand passages and those that interpret it wrongly will interpret Scripture wrongly anyways.
Kfear enough
T,Did you mean to write fear or did you mean fair?
Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,03:26) Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,02:24) Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,01:48) T, Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “ I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases. In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it easier for us to translate other passage. My guess is they were afraid certain people would take it literally and do things they ought not to do. In this case I prefer the translation soul though its meaning may well be synonymous to life because I believe it can make it easier for those that seek God' righteousness and his kingdom to translate some hard to understand passages and those that interpret it wrongly will interpret Scripture wrongly anyways.
Kfear enough
T,Did you mean to write fear or did you mean fair?
k
YES , fair ,SORRY ABOUT THATEVERY LIVING CREATURE HAS THE BREATH OF LIFE.
AND HAS THEIR OWN KIND OF BLOOD IN THEM.BUT NOT ALL HAVE A CONSCIENCE AND CHARACTER.
BUT THE HUMANKIND ONLY.EVERY PERSON DO THEIR OWN THINGS.
THINK NOT THE SAME,DO NOT THE SAME, LOVE NOT THE SAME THINGS.SOME ARE EVIL IN THEIR THINKING AND DOINGS.
SOME ARE NOT SO EVIL; SOME ARE GOOD HEARTED,AND KIND.THE SOUL IS THE STRONG ESSENCE OF A PERSON.
SOME ARE TOXIC,SOME VERY TOXIC.
THE ESSENCE OF THAT PERSON;WHICH IS HIS WORKS,
WILL BE JUDGED.THAT IS THE SOUL.wakeup.
To All… The Soul is the “COMPLETE” Person NOT PART of HIM. When He DIES HIS SOUL DIES ALSO, and will remain DEAD until the Resurrection OF the DEAD, when God shall maKe another Body and add the breath of Life back into it, as Ezekiel plainly shows. If you all will read all the places in the old testament where the owed Soul is used you will find it is speaking of the complete person, rather animals, man, or God.
Peace and love to you all…………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2014,20:56) To All… The Soul is the “COMPLETE” Person NOT PART of HIM. When He DIES HIS SOUL DIES ALSO, and will remain DEAD until the Resurrection OF the DEAD, when God shall maKe another Body and add the breath of Life back into it, as Ezekiel plainly shows. If you all will read all the places in the old testament where the owed Soul is used you will find it is speaking of the complete person, rather animals, man, or God. Peace and love to you all…………………….gene
Geneis a parked car a whole car
yes it is;but without a driver it does not go anywhere does it so you saying that the car for being a whole car it as to be with a driver ,but we know better ,
a body can exist and live on if we keep him fed with what it needs to live ,but of cause it will not move ,
now if the driver is in it (soul) then all can move
but in the case of Adam he was already to move and what it was needed was only the breath in his nostrils to start him up ; to become a full moving being ,
just as the driver in the car as to ignite the motor first before going on his way,
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2014,20:56) To All… The Soul is the “COMPLETE” Person NOT PART of HIM. When He DIES HIS SOUL DIES ALSO, and will remain DEAD until the Resurrection OF the DEAD, when God shall maKe another Body and add the breath of Life back into it, as Ezekiel plainly shows. If you all will read all the places in the old testament where the owed Soul is used you will find it is speaking of the complete person, rather animals, man, or God. Peace and love to you all…………………….gene
Gene,So the complete person is in the blood. Does that make sense to you?
T,
Quote a body can exist and live on if we keep him fed with what it needs to live ,but of cause it will not move , Some say that but they have no solid evidence.
Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,23:32) T, Quote a body can exist and live on if we keep him fed with what it needs to live ,but of cause it will not move , Some say that but they have no solid evidence.
kFLESH AS HIS OWN NEEDS ;but the spirit as is own as well ,
flesh is not the soul ; but the soul is US and when put in a body we now become a living soul ,because without a body that function we the soul cannot do anything ,
this is why it says that God breathed the breath of life in the nostrils of Adam to start the motor if you want to understand it ,
Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2014,00:18) T, If soul and life is synonymous then a live body has a soul.
kCORRECT ,but the live is not the soul ,or the body ,the soul is US
you have to understand that the body is only flesh and created to hold a soul ,
but to function the body as need of air,food,drink,and another maintenance ,but the soul does not need those things ,
the soul (US) we have to control the body in a way that it produce the right fruits ,and of cause the body as his own will of desires and need and wants
T,
A person can sit in a car and rev the motor of a car with broken axles but they will not get too far. The same is true of a soul in a broken body.
Quote (kerwin @ June 18 2014,00:40) T, A person can sit in a car and rev the motor of a care with broken axles but they will not get too far. The same is true of a soul in a broken body.
Kthat's correct ,as long as we live inside that body it does not matter in which condition the body would be WE CAN CHANGE FOR THE BETTER AND SERVE GOD OUR CREATOR ;
WHEN THE BODY DIES THAT IS WHEN OUR TIME IS UP,FOR CHANGING ANYTHING AT ALL ,NOW WE WOULD BE READY TO JUDGED ACCORDINGLY TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE ,WE ARE NOT JUDGED FOR IN WHAT CONDITION OUR BODY WAS ,THE FLESH IS NOT VERY IMPORTANT,IT IS WHAT WE DO WITH IT THAT IS ,
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