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Hi GB,
Indeed every man;s work is tried by fire
But that has nothing to do with God's expression of wrath prepared for the devil and his angels but used also for men.GB
only God can kill or destroy the soul ;why
scriptures says this not me .men can only kill the flesh (body ) this is also the scriptures that says that not me ,
so my question to you is this ;what happen to the soul of those that are killed by men
and what happen to the soul of those that have died for sickness,old age. accidents ect…….???
what happen to the soul of those that died in God's favorI now will quoting you scriptures but you do not understand them ;
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection.The second death has no power over them,IT TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND ;WHAT DEAD WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.THOSE SCRIPTURES TALKING ABOUT TWO RESURRECTION WHY IS THAT “GENE”
IN THE JUDGMENT LOOK WHAT IT SAYS ;The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS THE “DEAD ONES THAT ARE JUDGED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND AS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS BUT ALSO THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS OPEN WHY WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Hi GB,
More INTENSE JUDGEMENTS?
MK 942 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,09:32) Hi GB, More INTENSE JUDGEMENTS?
MK 942 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
Nreading or speaking scriptures does not save or create love for God ,
it is all about believing them;42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,14:32) Hi GB, More INTENSE JUDGEMENTS?
MK 942 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
Nick……Notice the wording, “the worm does not “DIE” as a consequence the “FIRE” is not quenched or put out. Another words (the fire) their intense judgement does not cease.Many scriptures show man as a worm, and scripture says, “he who will save “his” life shall lose it. If we put our own WILLS or lives (the way we live ) to death , then the fire (intense judgement) is quenched . We must remove wrong things from our lives even if it, in some way hampers our own lives.
The message of the parable is what is important to me Nick.
Peace and love to you and yours…………………..gene
Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,12:52) GB only God can kill or destroy the soul ;why
scriptures says this not me .men can only kill the flesh (body ) this is also the scriptures that says that not me ,
so my question to you is this ;what happen to the soul of those that are killed by men
and what happen to the soul of those that have died for sickness,old age. accidents ect…….???
what happen to the soul of those that died in God's favorI now will quoting you scriptures but you do not understand them ;
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection.The second death has no power over them,IT TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND ;WHAT DEAD WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.THOSE SCRIPTURES TALKING ABOUT TWO RESURRECTION WHY IS THAT “GENE”
IN THE JUDGMENT LOOK WHAT IT SAYS ;The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS THE “DEAD ONES THAT ARE JUDGED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND AS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS BUT ALSO THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS OPEN WHY WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Terricca……..It's not me saying a “SOUL” goes to it's judgement right after we die and being still alive in the grave that is what you guys are saying not me.
I never seen anyone who can mud the water better then you Pierre, it's like we can get nothing accord to you.
But I still love you anyway to, peace and love to you and your………………gene
Gene,
Jesus actually implied that the soul is still alive in the grave when he stated Jehovah is not a God of the dead but he the God of the living.
So in order for the God's words “I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac..” then Abraham, who body was dead and lying in its burial location had to still be alive and waiting the resurrection of his body.
So as is you seem to be saying that Jesus either lied or was mistaken.
In another place Jesus said do not be afraid of those who can destroy your body (causing the first death) but be afraid of him who can destroy both you body and soul in Hell(causing the second death).
Once again Jesus implies the death of the soul does not occur when the body dies but only when God chooses to destroy it in the final death.
Hi GB,
Yes man is referred to as a worm in Jb25
But this says THEIR WORMIsaiah 66:24
And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.Nick,
Two different uses for the word worm. The bodies are discarded in the garbage heaps and the worm borrows through them. In Job man is compared to that borrowing worm.
Hi KW,
Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 07 2014,19:53) Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,12:52) GB only God can kill or destroy the soul ;why
scriptures says this not me .men can only kill the flesh (body ) this is also the scriptures that says that not me ,
so my question to you is this ;what happen to the soul of those that are killed by men
and what happen to the soul of those that have died for sickness,old age. accidents ect…….???
what happen to the soul of those that died in God's favorI now will quoting you scriptures but you do not understand them ;
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection.The second death has no power over them,IT TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND ;WHAT DEAD WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.THOSE SCRIPTURES TALKING ABOUT TWO RESURRECTION WHY IS THAT “GENE”
IN THE JUDGMENT LOOK WHAT IT SAYS ;The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS THE “DEAD ONES THAT ARE JUDGED WITH WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND AS BEEN WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS BUT ALSO THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS OPEN WHY WOULD THAT BE “GENE”
Terricca……..It's not me saying a “SOUL” goes to it's judgement right after we die and being still alive in the grave that is what you guys are saying not me.
I never seen anyone who can mud the water better then you Pierre, it's like we can get nothing accord to you.
But I still love you anyway to, peace and love to you and your………………gene
GeneQuote .It's not me saying a “SOUL” goes to it's judgement right after we die and being still alive in the grave that is what you guys are saying not me. I never said it was you ,but if the souls are judge after being removed of their flesh one way or the other this must not make a liar out of me ;that is what scriptures says ,not me ,
Quote I never seen anyone who can mud the water better then you Pierre, well if I have muddy your waters it must be because it was not clear waters in the first place ,
I have shown you questions I still do not have receive answers
it seems you like your muddy waters at the least no one argue that they are muddy ,I DO NOT LIKE AND NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE LOVED MUDDY WATERS OF ANY KIND, AND SPECIALLY DRINKING WATERS ,AND CHRIST WATER IS PURE AND CLEAR WITHOUT A GRAIN OF SAND IN IT ,THIS ARE THE LIVING WATERS I LIVE FOR ,
MIKE AND ME LOVE THE SAME WATERS ,THIS IS VERY GOOD IN DEED,
Hi GB,
You say
“If we put our own WILLS or lives (the way we live ) to death , then the fire (intense judgement) is quenched .”You put out the lake of fire??
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,02:12) Hi KW,
Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
Nick,That was probably maggots. Some speculate he may have had kidney disease because of the symptoms.
Quote (kerwin @ June 08 2014,06:40) Gene, Jesus actually implied that the soul is still alive in the grave when he stated Jehovah is not a God of the dead but he the God of the living.
So in order for the God's words “I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac..” then Abraham, who body was dead and lying in its burial location had to still be alive and waiting the resurrection of his body.
So as is you seem to be saying that Jesus either lied or was mistaken.
In another place Jesus said do not be afraid of those who can destroy your body (causing the first death) but be afraid of him who can destroy both you body and soul in Hell(causing the second death).
Once again Jesus implies the death of the soul does not occur when the body dies but only when God chooses to destroy it in the final death.
Kerwin…….True God is not the God of the “DEAD” why? Because ” the dead know nothing, there is NO knowledge, Nor Work, Nor Wisdom in he grave where we go! when we DIE, and obviously a dead person has no God or anything else as far as the Goes.I tell you Kerwin it is vital we all attain to the resurection of a flesh body , created by the spirit of God, a body exactly like Jesus and Adam had.
There is NO LIFE after a man dies left, the body is corrupted in the grave and the spirit of life goes back to him who gave it in the first place. God does not lie ” THE SOUL that SINS “IT” SHALL “DIE”. And that does not mean still LIVING. All have Sinned and ALL will DIE, God is not MOCKED. YOU must simply believe what he said is true and accurate.
The whole concept that a person is still ALIVE after DEATH is of Satan, he was the one who said ” YOU Shall not “SURELY DIE” , FOR God know you will be Like HIM”. Trust me Kerwin when God told Adam the would DIE and return to Dust, “FROM WHENCE THEY WERE TAKEN” he truly meant it. When He said “DUST YOU “ARE” and DUST “YOU” SHALL RETURN, He truly meant every word out of His Mouth.
I know for most here that is hard to believe , but it doesn't change what God said no matter what we want to believe? I have posted many scriptures that completely back up what I have said.
It is absolutely crucial we all attain unto the resurrection from DEATH, and that is not a resurrection of a living soul life, in some abyss or what ever state of living, that you and others think we are in after DEATH. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,10:21) Hi GB,
You say
“If we put our own WILLS or lives (the way we live ) to death , then the fire (intense judgement) is quenched .”You put out the lake of fire??
Nick…….What did Jesus say.? If thy hand, or eye offend (prevent) you, cast it from you , better you enter in maimed, then to retain all and be cast into the fire (intense judgement) where (our own will) or worn, dies not, and as a result the fire (intense judgements) is not stopped. Nick if you knew the symbolic language Jesus was using there, you could easily understand it. IMOAnd yes it was a parable rather you realize or not brother.
Peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
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