The soul

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Which one?

You tell us you already know the answers and are just testing us.
We have better things to do.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,10:12)

Hi T, Which one? You tell us you already know the answers and are just testing us. We have better things to do.

N

You know the question all have seen me asking you,

And Waite your answer it

If you can

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
WAITE your answer

??

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,12:32)

Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death?

Nick…….How does this scripture fit you beliefs.

Psa 49:14…..Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them (WHEN), in the MORNING (that is the RESURRECTION) and there beauty shall consume (WHERE) in the grave from there dwellings.

Ecc 9:10……Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; WHY?, because there is NO WORK, nor DEVICE, Nor KNOWLEDGE, nor WISDOM, (where) IN the grave Where YOU GO.

Nick are these scriptures in your bible if so why have you not dealt with them brother.

Peace and love to you and yours…………………..gene

[terraricca]

Nick and gb

answer me this questions ;

just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ;

what happen when you are killed by men but not by God

where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it

and you GB; your scriptures you so believe would be of any help do really nothing because they are related to the flesh works on earth and when we die also all our dreams /wills also die

so answer my questions ;you are now two minds to help each other ;

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Psa 49:14…..Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them (WHEN), in the MORNING (that is the RESURRECTION) and there beauty shall consume (WHERE) in the grave from there dwellings.

Yes the body of flesh is consumed in the grave.
The soul is raised naked

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Ecc 9:10……Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; WHY?, because there is NO WORK, nor DEVICE, Nor KNOWLEDGE, nor WISDOM, (where) IN the grave Where YOU GO.

Yes the ability of man to affect anything is gone after death .
The books are complete.

So answer the question please

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,05:35)

Hi GB, Psa 49:14…..Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them  (WHEN), in the MORNING (that is the RESURRECTION) and there beauty shall consume (WHERE) in the grave from there dwellings. Yes the body of flesh is consumed in the grave. The soul is raised naked

Nick……please show where a soul is said to be naked after a person dies .

And what question have I failed to answer ?

Peace and love to you and yours ………………..gene

[NickHassan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,12:32)

Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death?

Hi GB,
This was the question

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
2Cor 5
2 For indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven, 3 inasmuch as we, having put it on, will not be found naked. 4 For indeed while we are in this tent, we groan, being burdened, because we do not want to be unclothed but to be clothed, so that what is mortal will be swallowed up by life.

.Revelation 3:18
I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.

.Revelation 16:15
(“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”)

[terraricca]

so none of you can answer me

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,07:26)

Hi GB, 2Cor 5 2 For indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven, 3 inasmuch as we, having put it on, will not be found naked. 4 For indeed while we are in this tent, we groan, being burdened, because we do not want to be unclothed but to be clothed, so that what is mortal will be swallowed up by life. .Revelation 3:18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. .Revelation 16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”)

Nike ……. Indeed in this house (our bodies) we are longing for a new dwelling (house, flesh body) from heaven.

Our present house (body) we received from our earthly Fathers, but we long for a “BODY” MADE BY GOD.  So our Spirits will not be Naked.

Where does it say our souls will not be naked, that is you rendition , but I really do not see it written there .

The rest is also talking about the spirit of our , minds, none of the is talking a bout a “SEPARATE LIVING Soul” , you keep bring up stuff the the word soul is not there, but you are implying it is talking about a Living Soul apart from a Body.

I tell you, i do not see it that way brother. Your case can be Easley made with just a Flesh Body and Spirit, which is a complete person, that is the complete living soul.

Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
Yes some will be clothed from above
But the others will no longer have a house

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2014,14:20)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,07:32) Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death? N just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ; what happen when you are killed by men but not by God where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it

Terricca…….when a person dies, his body is placed in a grave where it corrupted and turns back from the dust from which it came and his spirit returns back to God who gave it in the first place, that “LIVING SOUL” no longer exists, it is gone for ever more, and unless God resurrects a new physical body and adds the Spirit back into it that person is gone for ever, another words he or she is DEAD, meaning not still alive.

It is absolutely crucial we are resurrected from our graves by God and given a new physical body, and God breaths the breath of life back into us or we simply will not ever exist again. WE are NOT ALIVE after we DIE,we are TRULY DEAD.

DO you think God was lying when he said THE soul that sins, “IT”, SHALL DIE?, do you and others think He was just kidding around deceiving us all, because we still are alive, when we die. Satan would love you to believe that, that is why the doctrine of a person still alive after death is taught in all his synagogues  by his ministers. He wants you to believe God was lying to us. You seem to be gullible like EVE was when Satan told her “you shall not surely DIE”, you can believe that Lie if you want, but as for me I truly believe what God said he Meant.

Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

[Wakeup]

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit,
***that they may rest from their labours***;
***and their works do follow them***.

Their works, is what they have done in their life time.
Are recorded in a book in heaven.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2014,18:31)

Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2014,14:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,07:32) Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death? N just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ; what happen when you are killed by men but not by God where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it Terricca…….when a person dies, his body is placed in a grave where it corrupted and turns back from the dust from which it came and his spirit returns back to God who gave it in the first place, that “LIVING SOUL” no longer exists, it is gone for ever more, and unless God resurrects a new physical body and adds the Spirit back into it that person is gone for ever, another words he or she is DEAD, meaning not still alive. It is absolutely crucial we are resurrected from our graves by God and given a new physical body, and God breaths the breath of life back into us or we simply will not ever exist again. WE are NOT ALIVE after we DIE,we are TRULY DEAD. DO you think God was lying when he said THE soul that sins, “IT”, SHALL DIE?, do you and others think  He was just kidding around deceiving us all, because we still are alive, when we die. Satan would love you to believe that, that is why the doctrine of a person still alive after death is taught in all his synagogues  by his ministers. He wants you to believe God was lying to us. You seem to be gullible like EVE was when Satan told her “you shall not surely  DIE”, you can believe that Lie if you want, but as for me I truly believe what God said he Meant. Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

GB

answer my question ; it is based on the scriptures if you do not know you may just say so ,

but do not send me opinions

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,01:08)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2014,18:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2014,14:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,07:32) Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death? N just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ; what happen when you are killed by men but not by God where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it Terricca…….when a person dies, his body is placed in a grave where it corrupted and turns back from the dust from which it came and his spirit returns back to God who gave it in the first place, that “LIVING SOUL” no longer exists, it is gone for ever more, and unless God resurrects a new physical body and adds the Spirit back into it that person is gone for ever, another words he or she is DEAD, meaning not still alive. It is absolutely crucial we are resurrected from our graves by God and given a new physical body, and God breaths the breath of life back into us or we simply will not ever exist again. WE are NOT ALIVE after we DIE,we are TRULY DEAD. DO you think God was lying when he said THE soul that sins, “IT”, SHALL DIE?, do you and others think  He was just kidding around deceiving us all, because we still are alive, when we die. Satan would love you to believe that, that is why the doctrine of a person still alive after death is taught in all his synagogues  by his ministers. He wants you to believe God was lying to us. You seem to be gullible like EVE was when Satan told her “you shall not surely  DIE”, you can believe that Lie if you want, but as for me I truly believe what God said he Meant. Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene GB answer my question ; it is based on the scriptures if you do not know you may just say so , but do not send me opinions

Terricca……. No, God is not the only one who can kill both the body and the soul, He is the ONLY one who can “DESTROY” both, by simply leaving us in the grave. Why do you think it says DESTROY body AND SOUL , Where in HELL WHICH MEANS THE GRAVE.

If you think you can live or still be alive without a BODY, and without Spirit being added back in it, your are just kidding yourself.

You must attain unto the resurrection of THE DEAD, or you will never live again forever. IMO

Peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2014,20:25)

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,01:08) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2014,18:31) Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2014,14:20) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,07:32) Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death? N just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ; what happen when you are killed by men but not by God where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it Terricca…….when a person dies, his body is placed in a grave where it corrupted and turns back from the dust from which it came and his spirit returns back to God who gave it in the first place, that “LIVING SOUL” no longer exists, it is gone for ever more, and unless God resurrects a new physical body and adds the Spirit back into it that person is gone for ever, another words he or she is DEAD, meaning not still alive. It is absolutely crucial we are resurrected from our graves by God and given a new physical body, and God breaths the breath of life back into us or we simply will not ever exist again. WE are NOT ALIVE after we DIE,we are TRULY DEAD. DO you think God was lying when he said THE soul that sins, “IT”, SHALL DIE?, do you and others think  He was just kidding around deceiving us all, because we still are alive, when we die. Satan would love you to believe that, that is why the doctrine of a person still alive after death is taught in all his synagogues  by his ministers. He wants you to believe God was lying to us. You seem to be gullible like EVE was when Satan told her “you shall not surely  DIE”, you can believe that Lie if you want, but as for me I truly believe what God said he Meant. Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene GB answer my question ; it is based on the scriptures if you do not know you may just say so , but do not send me opinions Terricca……. No, God is not the only one who can kill both the body and the soul, He is the ONLY one who can “DESTROY” both by simply leaning us in the grave. Why do you think it says DESTROY body AND SOUL Where in HELL WHICH MEANS THE GRAVE. If you think you can live or still be alive with a BODY with added back Spirit in it you are just kidding yourself. You must attain unto the resurrection of THE DEAD, or you will never live again forever. IMO Peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

GB

IF ONLY YOU USE YOUR COMMON GOD GIVEN SENS ,YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ,

BUT YOU ARE SO RIGGED UP IN RELIGION OPINIONS THAT YOU CAN NOT SEE THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ,

LOVE YOU JUST THE SAME

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
And what of the lake of fire?

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,05:27)

Hi GB, And what of the lake of fire?

Nick…….The lake of fire is a symbolic term for “INTENSE” Judgements.

” THE FIREY trial”,  which has tried you as if some strange thing has happened unto you. ”

And again, ” For EVERY mans work will be tried by FIRE,” if a man has built with precious stones as gold, silver, or jewels, he shall receive a reward. But if he has built with wood, hay, or stubble, he shall suffer loss, for the FIRE will BURN it UP, but he himself shall be saved , YET as by FIRE.

Peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

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