The soul

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,12:19)

Hi GB, I am sorry I offended you. But which other parables should we not believe are based on reality, or did not relay a sense of a real thing to us. Jesus was using parables (factious illustrations). To relay a truism of something else like I explained the seed he spoke of was not literal grain seed, but the word of God, and he was the sower, and our heart was the ground where his spiritual seed was being sown. I know you and others know that, so we have got tone carefully to try to understand those parables in the message they are passing on to us, and that message cannot contradict other scriptures . All this you know is true I am convinced of that brother. THE PARABLE of the rich man and pour man only illustrates the suffering is and must be part of everyone's life now or latter, it does not even mention a living departed SOUL, while the flesh is still dead  that is an add on. Scripture does not say that. It is just assumed by many to say that. IMO Peace and love to you and yours Nick……………gene

Nick………I never said they weren't, based on a sense of reality, or didn't carried a true meaning about something true, where did you get the idea I was saying that, please do not add meaning to things I say brother, if you want clarification I will be happy to give it to you as I always have, I believe .

Peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

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gb

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.It dosen't matter if it is a spirit being or a flesh being of any kind it still is the complete being not just part of him

that is true ,and so God is a different being from all those he created right ,yes

and so his son is different of him he also is a total being right yes

and scriptures says that the son is the only begotten son of God his father ,Col;1;15,and the son says in john 6;38 that he ,the son came down from heaven ,but that part you do not believe right

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
But there is no truth in the story about Lazarus and the rich man?
Would Jesus cause confusion in this way?

[terraricca]

Nick/gb

i really do not understand people that not believe in scriptures ;and yet they say yes we believe the scriptures ,but not this or that ,or this but not the way it is written ,

and still believe that they are not the antichrist (meaning against Christ teachings )

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Are you the guy who told us the translators get it all wrong?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,02:36)

Hi T, Are you the guy who told us the translators get it all wrong?

Nick

I did not say that ,i only said that some of the words have been changed so that the meaning of the sentence could be easier twisted to their personal advantage,

but the truth of the spirit of scriptures was not corrupt God saw to that

[NickHassan]

hi T,
So what you cannot grasp
must have been twisted?

[NickHassan]

hi GB,
You say
“THE PARABLE of the rich man and pour man only illustrates the suffering is and must be part of everyone's life now or latter, “

Lk16
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,03:18)

hi T, So what you cannot grasp must have been twisted?

N

the crap that you teach is not find or supported by scriptures

[NickHassan]

hi T,
yap yap.

[terraricca]

N

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,08:20)

hi GB, You say “THE PARABLE of the rich man and pour man only illustrates the suffering is and must be part of everyone's life now or latter,  “ Lk16 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

Nick…….That is the way I understand that parable, you have no proof from that parable that the rich man was any greater a sinner then the poor man, that parable is only dealing with the different between between the level of suffering. And as Abraham said , the rich man had an easy life without suffering, and now he is suffering, while the poor suffering Lazarus, no longer was suffering and was at rest. Looking at the over all parable, it is obvious what it is relating to, and it's not about The SOUL still living after a person is dead. That is only the spin people on on that parable. IMO, as I have said the word Soul is not even MENTIONED there. To say a soul is still alive after a person dies goes against so meany scriptures that I gave posted already.

Nick we are going to just have to agree to disagree at this time brother.

Peace and love to you and your…………………gene

[NickHassan]

Hi GB,
They both died.

Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer.
How does this fit with your idea of death?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,07:32)

Hi GB, They both died. Yet they are shown to have awareness and communication skills and the ability to suffer. How does this fit with your idea of death?

N

just tell me ,if only God can kill both the flesh and the soul ,and that men can only kill the flesh ;

what happen when you are killed by men but not by God

where is your soul goes because God did not killed it or destroyed it

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Nobody dies unless it is allowed by God. He does not kill anyone.
God gives us our years-short or long.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,09:23)

Hi T, Nobody dies unless it is allowed by God. He does not kill anyone. God gives us our years-short or long.

N

i am sorry but what you say is false ;and you say this to avoid to answer a question you can not answer

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You response is always negative.
It is usually wrong too

You must be born again

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,09:44)

Hi T, You response is always negative. It is usually wrong too You must be born again

N

FIND YOUR WAY OUT NO THIS IS NOT THE WAY ALL CAN SEE THAT ;

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Keep shouting.
Something good might be heard

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,09:56)

Hi T, Keep shouting. Something good might be heard

N

ANSWER MY QUESTION

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