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And we have even more important words from God the Father who said clearly he looked for other God’s and found none.
A GOD “LIKE “HIM NO THERE WAS NONE EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS MANY GODS AROUND BUT NONE LIKE HIM FOR HE IS THE ONLY ONE LIKE IT ,
I have told you multiple times that there is only one God. My patience has worn thin telling you and yet you choose not to believe. Instead you choose to accuse me falsely.
Agreed. Gene, can you understand that most believe that there is only one God, but that scripture uses theos and elohim in other ways to, without infringing on the great truth that there is one true God.
Please understand and it will save much time and keep the conversation in learning mode instead of conversing with a brick wall. Would appreciate that.
I have told you multiple times that there is only one God. My patience has worn thin telling you and yet you choose not to believe. Instead you choose to accuse me falsely.
Agreed. Gene, can you understand that most believe that there is only one God, but that scripture uses theos and elohim in other ways to, without infringing on the great truth that there is one true God.
Please understand this and it will save much time and keep the conversation going forward instead of bouncing off a brick wall. We would appreciate that.
Terraricca,
it seem that none of the scriptures has to be believed but interpreted to your satisfaction and that those that wrote
Incorrect, it is my understanding that many passages of Scripture can have many meaning but it is the Spirit of God that will lead you to the correct one or ones.
“The letter kills but the Spirit gives life”
Terricca,
I wonder what Paul did meant in Col 1;15-21 to the people he wrote to ,?
I believe you do wonder but you heart is tested in those instances when you hear and then choose whether or not to believe.
k
I HAVE ANSWERED YOU TO THOSE QUESTIONS BUT you really do not give a answer do you ? NO
when you say the spirit of God ; what do you really mean ? do you know ? or do you just invent it ?
now in Col 1;15;21 this is not a test ,you invent as you walk , you refuse as it is written for personal reason not for the truth of God
you are using expressions that you do not really followed ,but they sound good for the purpose of your discussions
Incorrect, it is my understanding that many passages of Scripture can have many meaning but it is the Spirit of God that will lead you to the correct one or ones.
“The letter kills but the Spirit gives life”
Terrica,
when you say the spirit of God ; what do you really mean ? do you know ? or do you just invent it ?
Just as man has a spirit so does God and his Spirit draws those that hunger and thirst for righteousness because learning its lesson is what they crave. It teaches those whom adhere to the true gospel how to overcome their sins. Bearing its fruit is a delight to those who love God’s Law.
Terraricca,
So if you hunger and thirst for righteousness you will hear the call of the Spirit and understand what it teaches you about the meaning of Scripture for Jesus and God teach by it.
Kerwin…….GOD THE FATHER IS IN Jesus Christ to establish (his) (God’s kingdom) on this earth, it is not JESUS’ KINGDOM,
Gene,
FIRST AND FOREMOST DO NOT TAKE ANY OF MY WORDS IN ANY WAY
ANTAGONIST
I AM SIMPLY JESUS CHRIST FANATIC MORE THEN GOD FANATIC,
SINCE THERE’S NO TRUE GOD WITHOUT CHRIST
Read:
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the
KINGDOM OF HIS SON of his love,
NOW IF GOD’S KINGDOM, IS THE KINGDOM OF THE SON !
JESUS IS GOD!
But in the end JESUS gives it all back to the Father YEHWEH, and becomes subject to that kingdom,
By all means IN A WAY THOUGH! BUT:
SINCE THE FATHER HASN’T YET GOT, THIS SO CALLED KINGDOM OF THE SON,
WHAT HIS SON HAS RIGHT NOW,
HE WOULD EVENTUALLY ENRICH HIMSELF ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. NO?
SO JESUS IS PARTICULARLY
A SUPERIOR GOD. NO?
GOD OF ALL FLESH, declared by the Father himself!
THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT! FOR THE PLEASURE AND GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER,
AND JESUS CHRIST IS NOT GOD??????????????
YOU ARE OUT OFF YOUR MIND!
YOU KNOW WHY?
For the simple reason thatHOW ON EARTH IN A MODE TO SAY, GOD THROUGH
“THE WORD” JESUS CHRIST
WOULD TAKE TRILLIONS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS END RIGHT NOW, AND WILL TAKE GOD KNOWS HOW MANY MORE TO ACHIEVE SO UNFATHOMABLE, AND ASTOUNDING KINGDOM, AND IN THE SAME TIME NOT
A WORTHY DIVINE AND GODLY STATE IN THE LEVEL OF THE FATHER,WOULD THE FATHER RECEIVE SOMETHING SO MAGNIFICENTLY AND SO MAJESTIC, AND THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE SUCH ACCOMPLISHMENT DONE BY HIMSELF THROUGH HIS SON AND IT IS NOT
ENTIRELY DIVINE AND GODLY ENRICHED !
WITHOUT HIS SON BEING A GOD!
THE GENUINE REASON THAT HIS SON HIMSELF GIVES ALL TO THE FATHER!
READ:Or what man is there among you, of whom if his son shall ask bread, will he reach him a stone? 10Or if he shall ask him a fish, will he reach him a serpent? 11If you then being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children: how much more will your Father who is in heaven, give good things to them that ask him?
SO IF THE SON GIVES SOMETHING TO HIS GOD ALMIGHTY, WHICH IS
THE FLESH SUBSTANCE OF THE BODY OF THE SON ITSELF WOULD THAT PARTICULAR BODY BE NOT
WORTHY DIVINE GODLY SUBSTANCE ITSELF!
HOW ON EARTH GOD ALMIGHTY WOULD ABIDE IN IT!
ANSWER
THEREFORE UP TO HIS LEVEL!
THE FACT THAT GOD ALMIGHTY IS OF ALL SPIRITS!
FATHER OF ALL SPIRITS!
DECLARED BY JESUS HIMSELF TO MAGDALENE WHEN HE SAID:
I will ascend to the state of MY FATHER,
REFERRING TO HIS MANHOOD! SYMBOLICALLY SPIRIT!
And your FATHER,REFERRING ALSO TO MAGDALENE’S WOMANHOOD,SYMBOLICALLY FLESH
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HE FACT THAT THERE’S ONLY SONS OF GOD IN HEAVEN ! JUST SPIRITS!
So God the Father, is onlythe Father of sons, SINCE HE LIVES IN HEAVEN!
While Jesus is the FATHER OF ALL CHILDREN,
SONS AND DAUGHTERS, GAYS AND ALL
THE FACT THAT HE, ONLY HE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, BECAME MAN IN FLESH AND BLOOD, MANIFESTED GOD’S WORK, GAVE HIS MOST PURE FLESH BODY, AS A RANSOM WHO NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE COULD EVER POSSESS SUCH DIVINE AND GODLY STATE, AND IN THE SAME TIME MAN, SATAN’S DREAM!
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LAMB OF GOD! GOD’S GENUINE SUBSTANCE!
THEREFORE GOD THE FATHER IS INFERIOR TO CHRIST! FROM THE FLESH POINT OF VIEW!
IN HEAVEN, EARTH, AND UNDER EARTH!THEREFORE
JESUS IS GOD OF ALL FLESH!
WHICH GOD THE FATHER:
HERE IT COMES
WILL ONLY POSSESS ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST,
WHEN JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF:
PASS IT ONTO HIS FATHER COMPLETE INA WORTHY STATE OF GOD ALMIGHTY’S!
JESUS CHRIST’S OWN STATE: RIGHT NOW I repeat:
GOD OF ALL FLESH!
THEREFORE THE MANIFESTATION OF HIS SON’S KINGDOM
BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH! FOR ETERNITY!
BOTH MALE AND FEMALEWHICH CURRENTLY HE, THE FATHER ONLY FUNCTIONS AS SUCH THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SINCE JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE INTEGRATED ASONE UNIQUE SPIRIT: JESUS CHRIST!
AS JESUS DECLARED:
ALL THAT MY FATHER HAS IS MINE ,And IT WILL BE ,THE FATHER’S
NOT BEFORE THE FATHER HIMSELF,
HIS TURN,
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT,
THROUGH JESUS CHRIST’S POWER THOUGH!!!!!!MANIFESTS HIMSELF ON EARTH ALSO AS
HERE THIS NEW REVELATION ON HEAVEN NET:A FEMALE GOD
THAT WILL BE THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
ALL ACHIEVED FOR THE FATHER!
AND HE WILL BE CALLED FOR SURE:
JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY TRUE GOD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
I AM SIMPLY JESUS CHRIST FANATIC MORE THEN GOD FANATIC,
SINCE THERE’S NO TRUE GOD WITHOUT CHRIST
Read:
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the
KINGDOM OF HIS SON of his love,
NOW IF GOD’S KINGDOM, IS THE KINGDOM OF THE SON !
JESUS IS GOD!
This reasoning is flawed on so many levels.
But seek His kingdom, and these things will be added to you. “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom
So does that make us God by your reasoning? Yes it does if we use your reasoning. But is your reasoning correct? Absolutely not.
Jesus is not God if it was God that made all things through him and for him.
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
Made through him and for him by who? God.
The simple truth is that the one true God made all things through and for his son. He also sent him into the world to bring us back to God. Further, God is willing to give us the kingdom too. It is not anymore complicated than that.
“But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
There are many blatant and subtle doctrines that deny the one true God and the son of God.
K
Just as man has a spirit so does God and his Spirit draws those that hunger and thirst for righteousness because learning its lesson is what they crave. It teaches those whom adhere to the true gospel how to overcome their sins. Bearing its fruit is a delight to those who love God’s Law.
first the true gospel is the entire scriptures ;for it is the written word that is the TRUTH says jesus ,
but truth is understood only in its application ,not by talking about only ,
and i disagree with you that the spirit of man is LIKE the spirit of God ,for the word spirit as many meanings and so should be understood in the truth of God and not the truth of man ,
but I know we will disagree here, and in many other truths for I believe the scriptures the way they have been written as a whole ,
you want to interpret them as you see fit ,so you are something between a christian and a Jew ,,beat me ,i am undivided ,there’s only one spirit of truth ,and unless you have truth in you ,it is impossible to find /understand truth that God gives
K
So if you hunger and thirst for righteousness you will hear the call of the Spirit and understand what it teaches you about the meaning of Scripture for Jesus and God teach by it.
righteousness to me his a result of practicing and apply the truth ;so only you seek and live by the truth ,you will never find righteousness , only your own so called righteous but not God’s righteousness
T8……if you say it have other uses by applying the term GOD TO THOSE THINGS, as having other meanings then you are changing the words meaning. That is what IDOLATRY is all about, right making or changing the image ofthe “only” true God. Right?
This reasoning is flawed on so many levels.
But seek His kingdom, and these things will be added to you. “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom
So does that make us God by your reasoning? Yes it does if we use your reasoning. But is you reasoning correct? Absolutely not.
t8,
FIRST OF ALL: READ SCRIPTURES
DRB: Fear not, little flock, for it hath pleased your Father to give you
A KINGDOM. NOT THE KINGDOM! OK?
WHICH MEANS THAT since presumably God’s kingdom would eventually have more than one kingdom,
Which even Jesus indicated that it would be so when he said:
MY FATHER HAS MANY MANSIONS!
WE WOULD represent a particular kingdom NOT HE GIVES US THE WHOLE KINGDOM
But again our particular kingdom would be such that without our participation the kingdom of God would be no kingdom at all.
IT WOULD BE A DISABLED KINGDOM in a mode to say!
Jesus is not God if it was God that made all things through him and for him.
The above is more than flawed, for the simple reason,
That God is a mysterious title!
ALSO,if one for instance consider ourselves, THE IMAGE OF GOD, although MAN dies,
HIS SOUL WOULD BE JUDGED ACCORDING TO ALL WHAT THE FLESH BODY DID WHILE ALIVE!
So
IN THE TRUTH BOTH ARE THE SAME ENTITY !
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
The simple truth is that the one true God made all things through and for his son.
t8,
BY ALL MEANS!
BUT THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS THAT HIS SON DID ALSO ALL THINGS THROUGH AND FOR HIS FATHER!
REGARDING THE FLESH
FOR THE SIMPLE TRUTH THAT THE FATHER WAS HANDICAPPED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT HIS SON DID!
AS A SPIRIT!
THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW HIS SON INHERITED ALL,
I REPEAT INHERITED ALL WHAT THE FATHER HAS!
REGARDING THE SPIRIT
WHICH INCLUDES THE TITLES OF
GOD! AND FATHER!
Isaiah 9:For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called,
Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world TO COME, the Prince of Peace.BETWEEN
SPIRIT AND FLESH
MALE AND FEMALE
Now tell me
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD?
Peace an love in Jesus
Charles
Gene,
As far as the scripture in Hebrews goes, you must remember it is GOD’S seven spitits that are “IN” THE slain or dead LAMB THAT IS SPEAKING TO HIS OWN SPIRITS THAT ARE INDWELLING HIS SON, remember the fullness of GOD WAS DWELLING IN THE SON AND doing the works of setting up his “YAHWEH” Our (GOD’S) Kingdom on this earth.
I do not agree with you on your conclusion that God’s spirit is composed of seven spirits. God’s Spirit is as the spirit of man and God unlike man is not divided. There is only one Spirit and if you choose to live by it you love as God loves.
So you do not believe God means Godly but rather is speaking to his own Spirit that is dwelling in Jesus or instead you believe God is speaking to himself. In any case the two possibilities are saying the essentially the same thing.
It is plausible God would call his own spirit his Son as he has called his Wisdom his daughter. I know of no case where he has ever called himself his Son. I see no reason to believe the original writer of the quote or the one that quoted it in Hebrews were speaking metaphysically.
Experts in Koine Greek language have already determined one meaning of the word god is godly one and it fits the verse. I do not disregard the opinions of experts unless I have a case to prove them wrong and not an appeal to emotion.
Kerwin…….if godly one is the same a the word God then why are there both words if tbe meanings are tbe same. GODLY MEANS AS I SAID anyone that is god minded. His mibd is concerering God in what he is doing and this has nothing to do with a different meaning to the word god itself. Where are you getting you informtion from? Would like to see your new meaning that god means a god ofany kind?
A godly man is a man who walks in gods way, but never means he is a god of anykind. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
Kerwin…….I simply let the spirit teach me and i do not need some Geeek experts, to change meanings of words to meet tnere own understandings. While i might listen to what they say, but i put that against all scripture to draw a conclusion abot a subject. If i put everything s ripture say about the word GOD, AND WHAT GOD HIMSELF SAY ABOUT HIMSELF AND JESUS has said i get a clear picture of the meaning of the word GOD and how it applies.
Are we not told….”brethern you have “NO” need of a teacher for the SPIRIT will teach you all things.?
peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
Gene,
There is not a Hebrew word that was designed to literally mean God. It is merely a word that seems to be evolved from the Hebrew word for mighty. The word it evolved from may have actually mean ram, the male of a herd of goats. It is just like any other word in a language that is continually evolving while it is spoken. The bottom line is that anyone labeled “god” is superior to someone else. Godly on came into the meaning because the godly are superior to the ungodly. God is superior to everyone and not are his equal. He also is the only one of his kind. Koine Greek came to the same ideas from a different angle.
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