The Muslim Fight

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  • #792573
    bodhitharta
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    So you think rejecting the mediator of God will please God?

    Jesus is an intercessor because God allows it not because God needs it, look:

    None shall have the power of intercession, but such a one as has received permission (or promise) from (Allah) Most Gracious.

    ( سورة مريم , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #87)

    #792574
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    One thing you seem to forget is Jesus is a High Priest in the order of Melchezidek, would that mean that Jesus is the only mediator for all people or are their others with the power of intercession? either way God does not need anyone to interceed but it is for the benefit of those that won’t go to God directly Jesus even told his disciples that he would not intercede for them because they now know God:

    #792575
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    John 16:26-27 King James Version (KJV)

    26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

    27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

    God is waiting for you Nick

    #792576
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    So do you love the Son of God and obey him?

    #792577
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Do not expect any reply as God is helping those who approach Him through the Son.

    #792580
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    I have totally obeyed Christ and subjected myself to God totally

    #792584
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    So tell us when you repented of false religion and were baptised in the name of Jesus Christ ?

    he commanded that you be born again of water and the Spirit.

    #792585
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    How can you say you obeyed him when you say his teachings are false?

    #792586
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Nick FYI I was baptized when I was a Christian and being born of the water and of the Spirit I was lead to Islam

    #792587
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    How can you say you obeyed him when you say his teachings are false?

    what teachings of his did I say were false? You seem to switch context and assume the context you put his teachings in to be valid:

    If I say he was only sent to the gentiles you switch the context and say that was a temporary condition
    If I say him sayin no one can come to the Father except through me was a current statement you will call it universal and for all time.

    #792591
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Many times here you have denied the teachings of Jesus Christ.

    You adapt what you find useful to your ends.

    #792592
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    How can he only be sent to the Jews when he lives in his brothers?

    “”It is no longer I that liveth but Christ that liveth in me”

    #792595
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    You have been water baptised in the name of Jesus.

    But if you did you would not promote another prophet and another teacher.

    #792629
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Nick,

    Jesus said he was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel, isn’t that true?

    Why would I not promote all of God’s messengers don’t you think Paul has done well to go to the gentiles?

    Don’t you think Muhammad did well to promote Jesus as the Messiah as well, surely if he was against Christ he would not have spoken of him so highly indeed he has confirmed Jesus to many who were in doubt, The Quran has done more to undermine those false teachings of Orthodox Christianity such as the trinity or Jesus being God than any other force on earth

    #792631
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    In whose name were you baptised[acts 19]

    Christ in Paul went to the gentiles.

    Reflections of glory do not come from opposing other false teachings than your own.

    #792662
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    I was baptized in the name of Jesus and I was anointed with oil from Jerusalem. I have been anointed with the Holy Spirit from the earliest remembrance of life(with signs and wonders), I have studied the Bible for over 30 years, I have read every single page including the apocryphal books and I have also studied every major religion as well as many minor religions I was not searching I was quite happy with being a Christian and although there are so many denominations i did love speaking to people of various denominations….When I was led to Islam it was at my height of Christianity and Godliness and it was as simple as being in a bookstore where I gave a talk on God and I saw the Quran God led me to pick it up and I couldn’t put it down I went to the bookstore for 3 days until I read the entire Quran there were times where I thought this can’t be in regards to the crucifixion not happening or Jesus not being the son of God, but then God had me go back to the Bible and opened my eyes and I saw the TRUTH and the bible became clear and I received another portion of The Holy Spirit.

    When I realized that Jesus was saved from the cross I cried and cried because that’s what God does HE SAVES

    #792664
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Sad you fell into deception so soon.

    Christ Jesus is only crucified once

    #792684
    Ed J
    Participant

    Nick,

    Jesus said he was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel, isn’t that true?

    Why would I not promote all of God’s messengers don’t you think Paul has done well to go to the gentiles?

    Don’t you think Muhammad did well to promote Jesus as the Messiah as well, surely if he was against Christ he would not have spoken of him so highly indeed he has confirmed Jesus to many who were in doubt, The Quran has done more to undermine those false teachings of Orthodox Christianity such as the trinity or Jesus being God than any other force on earth

    Hi BD,

    If Muhammad believed in Jesus why did he tell his followers to fight the Christians who are spreading Christ’s message?

    B’shem
    YHVH

    #792771
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HI Bd,

    ‘”..when I was a Christian..”

    This says it all.

    Despite your protestations of loyalty, by your own mouth you are no longer a christian.

    #792773
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    If Muhammad believed in Jesus why did he tell his followers to fight the Christians who are spreading Christ’s message?

    Explain in more detail…..You do know that Jesus doesn’t equate to Christianity, right? People calling themselves Christian but are Idol worshipers are still Idol worshipers and Trinitarians are polytheist, you do know that right?

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