The Greek Septuagint

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,07:00)

Who are the these divine men then, Wakeup?  What are their names, so that we can pay homage to them, like we do Jesus and the apostles and Moses?

Mike B.

You should know by now that you should not worship any man. Worship God only through his Son.
God has given his Son *ALL* authority.

wakeup.

[2besee]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013)

Anyway, you now have all the facts you need to sort this out.  You can consider those FACTS, and let logic run its course in your mind – or you can let your PERSONAL FEELINGS tell you that “son” just “sounds better to you” than “gods”. The choice, as always, will remain yours

Yes,
I will believe all of the other scriptures which tell me, clearly, that Jesus is the Son of God.
i will also believe the facts that thousands of the early manuscripts  have “Son”.

Scripture » Feeling » Facts

Thanks

[terraricca]

W

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Worship God only through his Son.

WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51)

W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY

T.

We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God.
We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,05:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51) W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY T. We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God. We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god. wakeup.

W

SO ,WHEN i talk to my God ,according to you he does not listen ,

and God cannot be found in scriptures

or when someone read the scriptures then he goes through the WORD OF GOD

THIS IS WEIRD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

[kerwin]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 30 2013,10:41)

Kerwin, looks like you found what you looking for, with that number system.  I have no idea.

2besee,

Journey helped.

[kerwin]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,12:09)

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 30 2013,13:55) Wakeup, First, learn the language Scripture is written in. Kerwin. I know that you can understand hebrew,latin, and greek better that old english. wakeup.

Wakeup,

I have a Hebrew English and Koine Greek English dictionary(lexicon) and but not one for the outdated English of the Authorized KJV.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,10:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,05:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51) W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY T. We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God. We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god. wakeup. W SO ,WHEN i talk to my God ,according to you  he does not listen , and God cannot be found in scriptures or when someone read the scriptures then he goes through the WORD OF GOD THIS IS WEIRD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

T.

Yes; weird to the desolate.

We need to feed ourslves with the flesh of Christ
which is in the bible.

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WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY

Because Jesus said so. understand?
You are free to do it your own way.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,06:47)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,10:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,05:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51) W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY T. We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God. We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god. wakeup. W SO ,WHEN i talk to my God ,according to you  he does not listen , and God cannot be found in scriptures or when someone read the scriptures then he goes through the WORD OF GOD THIS IS WEIRD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING T. Yes; weird to the desolate. We need to feed ourslves with the flesh of Christ which is in the bible. Quote WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY Because Jesus said so. understand? You are free to do it your own way. wakeup.

W

IF JESUS SAY SO SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURES

AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER Y QUESTION

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,10:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,05:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51) W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY T. We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God. We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god. wakeup. W SO ,WHEN i talk to my God ,according to you  he does not listen , and God cannot be found in scriptures or when someone read the scriptures then he goes through the WORD OF GOD THIS IS WEIRD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

T.

Simple and straight.

You need to study books of science to know science.
This is not weird.
You need to study the Word of God to know God.
The apostles study Jesus Words of wisdom; this is how they knew Jesus.
We need to study the bible to know Jesus and his father.
This is not weird.

wakeup.

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Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,12:21)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,06:47) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,10:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,05:34) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2013,02:51) W Quote Worship God only through his Son. WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY T. We can not go to God without finding God first; through his Word/the holy bible. And Jesus is the Word of God. We can not go to God through some other word; like the qur'an,or the mahabaratha,or the kabala.Or we end up with some other false god. wakeup. W SO ,WHEN i talk to my God ,according to you  he does not listen , and God cannot be found in scriptures or when someone read the scriptures then he goes through the WORD OF GOD THIS IS WEIRD WHAT YOU ARE SAYING T. Yes; weird to the desolate. We need to feed ourslves with the flesh of Christ which is in the bible. Quote WHY COULD WE NOT GO TO THE FATHER DIRECTLY Because Jesus said so. understand? You are free to do it your own way. wakeup. W IF JESUS SAY SO SHOW ME THE  SCRIPTURES AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER Y QUESTION

T.

ONE MORE TIME;AND I HOPE YOU READ IT THIS TIME AND UNDERSTAND.

John 6:44 ***No man can come to me***, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

wakeup..

[kerwin]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,12:20)

T. ONE MORE TIME;AND I HOPE YOU READ IT THIS TIME AND UNDERSTAND. John 6:44   ***No man can come to me***, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. wakeup..

Wakeup,

Those words disprove your hypothesis that one has to be led by the God that dwells in Scripture.

You seem to forget that God is a living God and does not require Scripture to lead anyone to his Son.

You also forget that Jesus promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will be fill. They are are the ones that God draws to his Son. He does not draw those the love darkness, even when they read Scripture, because they will not come out into the light.

[Wakeup]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,17:28)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,12:20) T. ONE MORE TIME;AND I HOPE YOU READ IT THIS TIME AND UNDERSTAND. John 6:44   ***No man can come to me***, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. wakeup.. Wakeup, Those words disprove your hypothesis that one has to be led by the God that dwells in Scripture. You seem to forget that God is a living God and does not require Scripture to lead anyone to his Son.   You also forget that Jesus promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will be fill.  They are are the ones that God draws to his Son.  He does not draw those the love darkness, even when they read Scripture, because they will not come out into the light.

Kerwin.

That's right; God will not draw those that love darkness.
Jesus will not feed them.
God will not draw them that love the world.
Jesus will not feed them.
Some have drawn them selves but they wont be fed.
The world will provide them the food.

wakeup.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,17:28)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,12:20) T. ONE MORE TIME;AND I HOPE YOU READ IT THIS TIME AND UNDERSTAND. John 6:44   ***No man can come to me***, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. wakeup.. Wakeup, Those words disprove your hypothesis that one has to be led by the God that dwells in Scripture. You seem to forget that God is a living God and does not require Scripture to lead anyone to his Son.   You also forget that Jesus promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will be fill.  They are are the ones that God draws to his Son.  He does not draw those the love darkness, even when they read Scripture, because they will not come out into the light.

Kerwin ……….Well put brother. It is God that brings us to Christ not a scripture because a scripture can not give us the “SPIRIT” of TRUTH. Its is GOD himself that draws us to Christ not scripture. While scriptures do contain truth , but it still take the Spirit of Truth guide our understanding. IMO

peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

[mikeboll64]

Quote (2besee @ Dec. 01 2013,01:33)

Yes, I will believe all of the other scriptures which tell me, clearly, that Jesus is the Son of God. i will also believe the facts that thousands of the early manuscripts have “Son”.

Well, don't forget to believe that Jesus is also called a god in other scriptures.

And don't forget to believe that the OLDEST mss have “god” – not “son”.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,14:54)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,07:00) Who are the these divine men then, Wakeup?  What are their names, so that we can pay homage to them, like we do Jesus and the apostles and Moses? Mike B. You should know by now that you should not worship any man. Worship God only through his Son. God has given his Son *ALL* authority. wakeup.

Where did I say “worship”, Wakeup?

Now, please answer my question. What are the NAMES of these divine men who produced the KJV? It is YOU who has equated them with Moses and the Apostles. So please tell us their names, so we can revere them and hold them in awe.

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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 05 2013,03:43)

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 04 2013,17:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,12:20) T. ONE MORE TIME;AND I HOPE YOU READ IT THIS TIME AND UNDERSTAND. John 6:44   ***No man can come to me***, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. wakeup.. Wakeup, Those words disprove your hypothesis that one has to be led by the God that dwells in Scripture. You seem to forget that God is a living God and does not require Scripture to lead anyone to his Son.   You also forget that Jesus promised those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will be fill.  They are are the ones that God draws to his Son.  He does not draw those the love darkness, even when they read Scripture, because they will not come out into the light. Kerwin ……….Well put brother. It is God that brings us to Christ not a scripture because a scripture can not give us the “SPIRIT” of TRUTH. Its is GOD himself that draws us to Christ  not scripture. While scriptures do contain truth , but it still take the Spirit of Truth guide our understanding. IMO peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

GeneB.

This is because you dont understand,
that the spirit in the scriptures is the Word of God.
And Jesus IS the Word of God.
Without the scriptures,no one can come to God.Can you?
How did you find out about Jesus and his God?
Is it not through the scriptures?
Or did God introduce Himself to you,and taught you?

God spoke through Jesus: all are written on paper,
and we ought to eat it and digest it.Digest the spirit in the words.The words that I speak to you;they are spirit.
It is the spirit the quickens. His words are written in the holy bible. Not in the whispering wind.

How can you eat His flesh and drink His blood?
Show me how.

wakeup.

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2013,11:33)

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 30 2013,14:54) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2013,07:00) Who are the these divine men then, Wakeup?  What are their names, so that we can pay homage to them, like we do Jesus and the apostles and Moses? Mike B. You should know by now that you should not worship any man. Worship God only through his Son. God has given his Son *ALL* authority. wakeup. Where did I say “worship”, Wakeup? Now, please answer my question.  What are the NAMES of these divine men who produced the KJV?  It is YOU who has equated them with Moses and the Apostles.  So please tell us their names, so we can revere them and hold them in awe.

Mike b.

Their names were not mentioned.
So I can not help you there.
You should not lookup to any man.
Not even Abraham.
Worship God: His Word is with Him.
And his Word is His own.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,20:48)

You should not lookup to any man. Not even Abraham. Worship God:

So then you are telling me that I SHOULDN'T honor and look up to my parents?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 04 2013,20:48)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 05 2013,11:33) What are the NAMES of these divine men who produced the KJV?  It is YOU who has equated them with Moses and the Apostles.  So please tell us their names, so we can revere them and hold them in awe. Mike b. Their names were not mentioned.

So they were just ordinary men, and not apostles or anything, right?

Were these men infallible?

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