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Applying the TRUTH to John’s Gospel,
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
REFLECT on God’s WORD, the prophecy God gave of a covenant concerning a man God would call to righteousness. God’s Covenant was His word, it was a PROMISE that contained eternal life, and it contained the Son of Man dying on the cross and receiving dominion over all the works God had made, where all life of mankind was given into his hands.
This Son of Man was in God’s WORD, he was in the beginning with God BY God’s word, IN God’s word. All things were made through this Son of Man who brings us the fulfillment of God’s word, a covenant that promises eternal life, where all nations of people are blessed.
2 He was in the beginning with God;
3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7He came for testimony, to bear witness to the light, that all might believe through him.
8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness to the light.
9 The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not.
11 He came to his own home, and his own people received him not.
12 But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God;
13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.The “he” the “him” is one of the people, as it clearly says, he came to his own and they rejected him.
What John says fits perfectly with Isaiah’s prophecy THE WORD of GOD that had been with God from the beginning, a man called to righteousness who would be a LIGHT. A man receiving the Spirit of Wisdom, Understanding, Council and Might, Knowledge and fear of the LORD, being anointed and SENT out to preach God’s word of the covenant and be the one to fulfill that word of God, a man sent out to deliver the captives, be a master over the Sabbath, have authority to forgive sins and heal. God’s WORD spoken to Isaiah, made true in the anointed flesh of Jesus, who by receiving God’s Spirit without measure of Wisdom, Understanding, and Knowledge, was MADE FULL of grace and TRUTH.
God gave the Son of Man the power to bring other Sons to glory, he was given this power because he had been faithful to God unto his death, and would be a righteous judge over the people because he had suffered.
If you DO not APPLY Isaiah’s prophecy to John’s Gospel you are a blind fool. If you do not recognize that the one who is said to be coming into the world, is according to Jesus’s own words in Luke 4, where he said the Spirit was upon him, he had been anointed, he had been sent, you are a blind fool. If you do not believe that the Spirit of God descending upon Jesus like a dove was God’s WORD spoken by Isaiah becoming true in the flesh of Jesus, you are a blind fool. If you do not believe that God’s WORD spoken by Isaiah that was then fulfilled in the flesh of Jesus, had been WITH God from the beginning, before the world was, you are a blind fool.
If you do not believe that all things consist by God calling a man to righteousness and making him perfect you are a blind fool. If you do not believe that God created heaven and earth through a covenant which it’s foundation is in a Son of Man made perfect, you are a blind fool.
The WORD is God’s word that John is speaking of, the “he” and the “him” that John is speaking of who is a LIGHT is the Jesus who had God’s Spirit descend upon him like a dove and then was SENT out to deliver the captives, preach God’s word. Such is exactly God’s word that had been with God since before the world was created, that God gave to the prophet Isaiah, that then became TRUE IN THE FLESH of Jesus.
Matthew 4:16 the people who sat in darkness have seen a great light, and for those who sat in the region and shadow of death light has dawned.” 17 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.” 20 And he closed the book,
THE LIGHT that the people beheld the glory of, was the Son of Man who had been anointed with God’s Spirit becoming full of Grace and truth because the Spirit was placed upon him without measure.
Hey Jodi,
Why not just quote the whole bible. There is no understanding but a bunch of scripture.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit…
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord (2962. kurios) is that SPIRIT: and where the Spirit of the Lord (2962. kurios) is, there is liberty.
Jodi,
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside me there is no saviour.
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord (2962. kurios) is that SPIRIT: and where the Spirit of the Lord (2962. kurios) is, there is liberty. But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Me: We will be changed into the image of the spirit of God.
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1 Cor 15:45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.Hi Jodi,
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Me: The body and soul of the Messiah had died. His soul was of the seed of David. The holy spirit or Word in him had not died.
Isa 11:2 And the spirit (Eph 4:4: one spirit) of the YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of (1) wisdom and (2) understanding, (3) the spirit of counsel and (4) might, the (5) spirit of knowledge and of the (6) fear (reverence and awe) of the YHWH;
Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the (7) seed (of the nature or soul) of Abraham.
Me: There are six aspects of the holy spirit in Isa 11:2.
Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Me: The seventh aspect of the spirit is the soul of the Messiah. We don’t need a body to be alive with the Lord. His spirit gives ours souls life. Neither does the Word need a body to live.
2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit…
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
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5590. psuché2.: the soul (Latinanimus), a. the seat of the feelings, desires, affections, aversions (our soul, heart, etc.)Ezk 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh (me: of the Messiah).
Me: We will have a new heart in our souls, it will be the heart of the Messiah. It will be of the holy spirit (Word of God)
1 Peter 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Me: Our new bodies are that crown of glory
You quoted me: “This seventh aspect in the Spirit or Word of God above is the man or soul of God which is the mediator part of the holy spirit.”
You: Can you explain to me (in quite a bit more detail) what you are talking about here?
Because I don’t get it. But I want to know what you mean. So please explain it to me, ok?”Me:
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Me: The body and soul of the Messiah had died. His soul was of the seed of David. The holy spirit or Word in him had not died.
Isa 11:2 And the spirit (Eph 4:4: one spirit) of the YHWH shall rest upon him, the spirit of (1) wisdom and (2) understanding, (3) the spirit of counsel and (4) might, the (5) spirit of knowledge and of the (6) fear (reverence and awe) of the YHWH;
Me: We have six attributes of the holy spirit here. This is before the Messiah had been born.
After the Messiah was resurrected from the dead and glorified in heaven.
Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Me: The holy spirit was in the Messiah but his human mind was not fully bonded with it until full maturity just before he was crucified. Thus, the holy spirit guided him or rested on him from without to guide him in circumstances so he could mature fully (John 3:34) without spot. God gave Christ as full of the holy spirit that he could take in at any one time because he grew in the holy spirit. It would rest upon him the Messiah to help develop the six attributes of the holy spirit listed in Isa 11:2. The challenges ahead were stronger after Jordan.
Me: There are only six aspects of the holy spirit in Isa 11:2. There are seven below in Rev 5:6. So where did the seventh come from?
Heb 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the (7) seed (of the nature or soul) of Abraham.
Me: The seventh had to be the heart, soul and mind of the THE MAN IN CHRIST. What else could it have been? Thus, we can now receive the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT.
March 1:8 (NKJV) “I indeed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the holy spirit.
Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Me: This is after being baptized with the holy spirit.
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the MEDIATOR of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Heb 1:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect…12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Me: Christ is primarily the mediator for our sins. We are continually cleanest by his blood when we sin after we are baptized. This brings perfection, not the sacrifice of animals. The seventh eye or spirit of the holy spirit in Rev 5:6 has to be the seed of David (of the mind, soul, and heart).
Hey TC,
You:
Why not just quote the whole bible. There is no understanding but a bunch of scripture.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit…
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord (2962. kurios) is that SPIRIT: and where the Spirit of the Lord (2962. kurios) is, there is liberty.
ME: No understanding? God had a plan from the beginning, that plan was in His word, He gave that word to the prophets, Jesus fulfills that word, a Son of Man called to righteousness, anointed of the Spirit, made perfect becoming our source for eternal salvation, raised from the dead to be the firstborn of many brethren.
The Lord in 2 Cor 3:17 is speaking of YHWH our heavenly Father, the SAME Lord in Luke 4 who anoints Jesus with His Spirit.
LIBERTY!!
18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
Jesus goes on being SENT out into the world proclaiming that he is the BREAD from heaven, and that bread is His FLESH, he is made perfect and that BREAD is sacrificed on the cross, setting us free from sin. This was because he followed not his own will but God’s will, and he was ABLE to do that because he had been called to righteousness having God’s Spirit of Knowledge and fear of the LORD rest upon him at the river Jordan.
Hi TC,
Jesus’s resurrection is my same resurrection,
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
The BODY Jesus was raised with, called by Paul as his spiritual body, was one of flesh and bones. The body Jesus was RAISED WITH was incorruptible, glorious, and powerful, he was raised WITH a body of flesh and bones.
The naturally body is a mortal body, perishable, weak, a body that can be tempted. A spiritual body is immortal, incorruptible, powerful, it cannot be tempted and therefore cannot indulge into temptation bringing forth sin.
A spiritual body is a body SET free from death and the need to serve the body in order to survive, in order to remain alive. A natural body is a body that is weak it must serve itself in order to live. A spiritual body is FREE to serve God and God alone without any temptation.
Jesus was RAISED with a spiritual BODY, so he is not a spirit being, but he has a spirit within his body. That spirit judges man through having God’s Spirit of Wisdom, Understanding, Council and Might upon it.
John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
TC apply Isaiah 11 to John 5!!
Paul’s words say that Jesus was raised WITH a BODY, it is the same body he died with as God promised that his flesh would not see decay but eternal life. Paul doesn’t say Jesus became a spirit. Jesus is still a Son of Man, you are directly told that he is the last Adam (a HUMAN) and he is returning to earth and will judge not from his own eyes and ears. He is going to judge because God’s Spirit rests upon him. Jesus’s human spirit received God’s Spirit of Wisdom, Understanding, and with that Spirit upon his human spirit he follows God’s will and judges through God’s Wisdom. Jesus as a child grew in wisdom as God’s grace was upon him, Jesus became full of Wisdom at the river Jordan when God’s Spirit rested upon him. God’s Spirit teaches man’s spirit God’s ways. God’s Spirit leads a man’s spirit to have faith and trust in Him. Jesus is a man with a HUMAN spirit that is FILLED with the knowledge and wisdom of YHWH.
As the passage says, “authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.”
When Jesus was mortal he suffered just like us, being tempted, he remembers what weak mortal flesh is like, even though he now has a HUMAN body that has eternal life, he has not forgotten what our infirmities are like. Jesus knows that he still does nothing of himself, but all that he does is because God’s Spirit is upon his human spirit.
We are nothing without God’s Spirit, without God we are dumb, like a dog that returns to his own vomit, like a serpent ignorant of God, only doing what it knows naturally, licks the dust of the earth using his Jacobson’s organ to find food in order to survive. A serpent does not know God, it only knows to serve the flesh. The natural man also does not know God, it only knows to serve the flesh. Without God’s mercy and grace upon us, without Him giving us of the fruits of His Spirit, we are left only to rely on our own understanding what our ignorant imaginations devise. Only God is good, TRUTH and righteousness comes from our God alone, we receive fruits of His Spirit into our hearts making us new men, not carnally minded but spiritually minded, having learned by God to follow His ways.
Jesus received the fruits of God’s Spirit in full measure, and it made him a perfect man and God did not allow his sinless flesh to see decay, it was not deserving of such. He rewarded him giving him incorruptible flesh.
The people watched Jesus who was RAISED in power, RAISED with incorruptible flesh, RAISED in glory, ascend into heaven, and scripture says that this SAME Jesus will return, and he will return in the same manner of which he ascended.
Gene and Jodi
You: TC…..The word “and” God?, how exactly do you seperate God from his word., nor can you? You can’t be seperated from your word, nor me from my word. All words are spirits, because they come from the mind of spirits. Jesus told us this, about the words he was telling us, “the words I am telling you “are’ spirit, and are “life”.
New Testament:
Me: All Words from God is from one spirit, the holy spirit. That holy spirit is the Word. It expresses the thoughts of God from the mind of God. God and his mind cannot be separated. God’s mind and spirit cannot be separated. God expresses all things, even which cannot be expressed through words like visions, through his Word. His Word is his expression.
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord (Kurios) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Me: Words are thoughts. God’s words come from mind of the spirit. God has one mind now of two natures—The holy nature he always had plus that of the now the seed of David. This is of his one spirit.
Acts 14:12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief SPEAKER (3056:logos).
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word (3056:logos and the Word (3056:logos) was with God, and the Word (3056:logos) was God.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Bible-Word-God.htmlArticle: How can Jesus and the Bible both be the Word of God?
https://www.gotquestions.org/rhema-word.htmlQuote: There are two primary Greek words that describe Scripture which are translated “word” in the New Testament. The first, logos, refers principally to the total inspired Word of God and to Jesus, who is the living Word. Logos is found in John 1:1; Luke 8:11; Philippians 2:16; Hebrews 4:12; and other verses.
The second Greek word translated “word” is rhema, which refers to the spoken word.
Rhema literally means an utterance (individually, collectively or specifically). Examples are found in Luke 1:38; 3:2; 5:5; and Acts 11:16.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Living-Word.htmlQuote: The description of the Bible as “living” means that it has a vital power inherent to itself. The written Word of God accomplishes God’s purposes (Isaiah 55:11); the preaching of the Holy Scriptures brings about God’s desired effects.
Me: The Messiah is the total Word of God (Logos) in the NT. He is the speaker.
Old Testament:
Prob 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
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565. imrah: utterance, speech, word1 Ch 17:3 And it came to pass the same night, that the word (1697. dabar) of God came to Nathan, saying,
Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech ((1697. dabar).Brown-Driver-Briggs
Of Men:
singular speech, discourse, saying, word, as the sum of that which is spoken:
discreet in speech
word of command,
message, report, tidings,
charge, complaint
theme, story,Of God
word of God, as a divine communication in the form of commandments, prophecy, and words of help to his people, used 394 times. This word is communicated in several ways:Me: So, Debar in the OT corresponds with Logos in the NT and basically means a message or speech. This is the entire speech of God. The spirit or Word of God represents this. Christ is that Word or ENTIRE message of God.
Imrah in the OT corresponds with rhema in the NT which basically means utterance of words or a word.
John 1:14 And the Word (LOGOS: Total message) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Hi All,
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the SPIRIT of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Me: See the direct correspondence between the “Spirit of truth and the son.
Hi All,
John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Matt 23:8 “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.Me: When God is speaking the Word of God to us, these thoughts come from his mind of the spirit to the spirit, that spirit being the Word of God. When he communicates with his father as a man, it is through the seed of David.
Me: God’s mind is both like it always was with the addition of the human aspect in it. ‘
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
Me: the mind of the spirit, which is the heavenly Father, tells the spirit of the mind, which is the Word, what to say and what to do. This includes the raising of the body and soul of Christ from the dead.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I AM THE RESURRECTION and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Hi All,
Luke 3:3 And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins
Acts 13:24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Me: Christ was not baptized because he had sinned. He was baptized with water in our stead so we who repent could receive the baptism of the holy spirit.
The mind of God includes the mind of Christ. Just like God has now has seven aspects (Rev 5:6) to the one holy spirit, God has two minds of his one mind—the human mind and the mind of the Father. God now also has a human mind bonded as one with his mind.
Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But MADE HIMSELF f of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Matt 26:46 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh.
Me: The Word was made flesh by the Word as commanded by God.
The Father has a mind and a heart:
Acts 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after MINE OWN HEART, which shall fulfil all my will. 23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Matt 12:34 …for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Lev 24:12 And they put him in ward, that the mind of the YHWH might be shewed them.:Me: God now has a HUMNAN heart and mind:
1 Cor 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord (Kurios), that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Romans 8:11 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Me: The mind and heart of the father gives and instructs the son of what to say and do. The Father speaks to us in words that we can understand. He shows us visions that cannot be expressed in words. God’s mind is not his words. His words come from his mind and are expressed by his spirit.
Hi All,
Isa 43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Matt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Me: God’s words shall not pass away until all be fulfilled. It is God’s mind where his words come from that will never pass away, some of his thoughts will.
Hi All,
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; YHWH of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith YHWH
Me: The Old husband was YHWH, both the mind and the spirit (the Word) of.
1 Cor 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
2 Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Me: The new husband is YHWH. This includes the mind and spirit (Word) of the OT plus the mind and soul of the seed of David. The New husband died for us through the body and soul of the Messiah bonded as one with God.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
Gene and Jodi,
I will not likely respond to your comments for a while at least. I think I have exhausted my explanations to you both.
Hi All,
One more thing: I need to make a couple of modifications to be of good conscious.
First, the mind and heart of the Messiah grew in the spirit to become one mind with his Father through the holy spirit (Word). This is still the old husband of the Old Testament. Then when the Messiah had died in mind and spirit, it was as if the old husband had died, because the mind and heart of the Father was then fully bonded as one with the mind and heart of the human Christ or seed of David. The resurrected and glorified Christ became fully the SON OF GOD.
Mark 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.
Me: The first husband had died at this point.
Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh (Mind and soul);
Rev 21:9…Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
Me: The second husband came to be by the resurrection from the dead.
Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten (born) thee.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten (born) into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Me: Truly, Christ BECAME FULLY THE SON OF GOD by his resurrection from the dead.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath ANNOINTED thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
Me: Christ, as the Son of God was anointed high priest.
1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving SPIRIT.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Me: As a life giving spirit, he is in the image of God. As a high priest, he could make intercession for us. So, the new husband was the old husband now with the human mind and soul of the Messiah bonded as one. The Word (spirit of God) had resurrected Christ from the dead. The Word did not have the soul and mind of the human Christ in it at that time. Both had died.
Yes, I stand corrected on this. Gene and Jodi were right here. The father raised up Christ by the Word or spirit of God. But the Word or spirit of God now expresses his words to us through the resurrected Son of God as he did before Christ had died.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Me: This is the mind and heart of the man in the holy spirit teaching us.
Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Me: The body is secondary, the spirit is primary.
Hi All,
A few more points of mine need to be clarified.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go (not “go back”) to the Father.
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Me: The Father created the human Messiah when he came into the world the first time.
Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But MADE HIMSELF of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Me: This should not be implied that Christ created himself as I had inferred, rather:
Christian Standard Bible
Phil 2:5 Adopt the same attitude as that of Christ Jesus, 6 who, existing in the form (3444. morphé: outward appearance) of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be exploited.
https://biblehub.com/greek/3444.htmMe: This attitude was not like the first Adam, to wit:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and YE SHALL BE AS GODS, knowing good and evil.Me: The coming king and fully Son of God did not exalt himself as the first Adam did.
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form (3444. morphé: outward appearance) of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Me: Christ took the outward appearance of the servant not from just the standpoint of attire but from a meek countenance.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I AM THE RESURRECTION and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Me: Christ could raise the dead like Lazarus before the resurrection. But this was not for eternal life. Only after the Messiah was glorified as the Son of God after his resurrection from the dead could he do this.
Me: To affirm the second post from here above.
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the MEDIATOR of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 hereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
Me: Christ, fully bonded as one with his Father died to establish the second marriage covenant.
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