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The format for this Hot Seat discussion is one question at a time. I will start and Gene will be able to ask a question only if he successfully answers my question. I in turn have to successfully answer any of his questions. If the question is reasonable and not answered, this will result in the member being banned from posting the forums until such time the question is answered. If the question is a yes/no question then you have to answer in that manner. Yes, No, I don’t no are sufficient answers.
If the question is a non-question like “have you stopped robbing banks” then the non-question can be challenged as such. The Admin will step in at that point and deem whether the question is a fair one or not.
This discussion is about when Jesus became the messiah. Was he born the messiah or did he become the messiah later on. My stance is that he was born the messiah, so I will start with my first question. If Gene answers yes/no/I don’t know, then he can provide an explanation as to why he answered that way in a following post and can ask me a question if he wants after that. It is about extracting yes and no answers so please respect that.
Please stick to the topic and this is only for myself and Gene unless we both agree to open the discussion up to others.
While Nick clearly teaches that Jesus was not the Christ at birth and for most if his earthly life, so it is that Gene also teaches this. Nick said:
Of course Jesus was made both Lord and Christ so was not conceived or born as such.
https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-jesus-the-logos/page/49/#post-808401Gene too has said something similar. He said the following:
T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,
My reply to him is this.
Wrong!
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord
Clearly the angels message is contradictory to your statement Gene. You are obviously wrong. Where is your love for the truth? Is the love of stubborn pride greater than that of truth?
My first question will follow.
QUESTION: Are your words and the scripture quoted below contradictory?
You said:
T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,
Scripture says:
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord
Yes / No in your post. Your explanation can follow in another post.
T8…I do believe he was born to be a savior at his berth, BUT DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE HE SAVED ANYONE AT BERTH? YES OR NO PLEASE.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
T8….I have answered your question, now why have you not answered mine? Does this mean you have lost or what?
No Gene. It just means that I have not come round to this topic yet. I go through the topics that have replies in the order given in the toolbar at the top of the page. Silly you for thinking I had given up. Now let me first look at the question given so I can match it with the answer you have provided.
Your answer makes no sense. Look at the question again.
MY QUESTION: Are your words and the scripture quoted below contradictory?
YOUR ANSWER: YES. HE WAS
Please pay attention. Look at the post again and answer the question given, not some other question that is not there.
Phew, why is this so hard for many.
Perhaps this explains why your posts are repetitive even though you have been disproved in the past. You appear to not read the posts when responding. It makes sense now.
T8….IT certanly does make sense, you say he was a savior at berth right?, so i ask you did he actually save anyone at berth. YES OR NO?
Trying to demean the question is your way of skipping out if you ask me. ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene. You are on the Hot Seat. Before you ask any question of which I am happy to answer, you must answer your question which was posed earlier. Go back to the post above and answer the question in the correct format please.
T8…..NO, THEY ARE NOT COUNTERDICTORY. IF that is the question you are asking you have your answer?, now please answer my queztion, DID JESUS ACTUALL SAVE ANYONE AT HIS BERTH? YES OR NO, OR I DON’T KNOW PLEASE?
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Here it is again. No excuses.
=======================QUESTION: Are your words and the scripture quoted below contradictory?
Your words:
T8….NO SCRIPTURE SAYS JESUS “WAS” BORN THE SAVIOR,
Scripture:
for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord
Yes / No in your post. Your explanation can follow in another post.
T8….NO ,..SCRIPTURE SAY JESUS WAS “BORN”, “A” SAVIOR, not “THE” Savior. BUT NO SCRIPTURE SAY HE SAVED ANYONE “AT BERTH” , AS YOU FALSELY ARE TEACHING. If i were born to be a king, it does not make me a king till i am crowned a king, i would not “be” a king at berth, but simply born to be. SAME WITH JESUS.
NOW PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION, DID JESUS ACTUALLY SAVE ANYONE AT HIS BERTH, AS YOU ARE IMPLYING, YES or NO, or you don’t know.
peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Gene, you are obviously dodging the question at hand, therefore the rules stipulate that your posting rights be revoked until such time as you answer the question honestly and in the format required.
The Hot Seat is designed to weed out members who dodge fair questions and continue to repeat their dogma without addressing good questions. Such people waste time with endless debates that go nowhere. The site’s mission is to test all doctrines and teachings to see if they are true. This cannot be achieved when members dodge questions.
If at such time you decide to answer the outstanding question, then you should PM me (Admin) and I will restore your posting rights to allow you to answer yes or no. You will then be able to continue posting.
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