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Quote (2besee @ June 21 2013,10:33) Okay, here are just a few examples taken from only a few pages in one thread recently, and is only a very small sample of the way that Terraricca is talking to members. If I could go through other threads I would but I cannot. These posts were made to various members, I have removed the names.
Nobody retaliated but rather replied calmly or just did not reply.
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I do see your frustration ,but it is not because of Mike ,but rather from your rejection of scriptures due to you religion orientation ,
you cannot make scriptures fight against each other ,but they all have to comply with the truth within them ,IF SOMEONE CANNOT DO OR UNDERSTAND THIS ,HE BECOMES A DOUBLE MINDED PERSON ,FOR THE VERY REASON THAT HE CANNOT ACCEPT THE WORD OF GOD ,BUT ONLY SOME PARTS AT HIS CONVENIENCE ,THIS TELLS ALL ABOUT THAT SO CALLED BELIEVER
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i am not envy you in any way ,the truth of God flees away from you ,and you do not even feel or see it , but it is your choice ,so if you do not believe in the scriptures ,on this forum their is a section for you as unbeliever ,were anything goes except truth
so i hope you can see the way to go for your best personal interest ,
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You do nt understand what those scriptures are saying ,you are only guided by your bias view, not by the truth of God,s word
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he will not give your answers because if he does he will have to change his false belief about the scriptures and like he said HE DOES NOT BELIEVE THIS ,
PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES BECAUSE THEY READ IT ONES AND SO BELIEVE THAT THEY KNOW IT ALL ,OR THEY GO TO THE ETHERNET PICK UP SOME MEN MADE EXPLANATION AND GIVE IT AS AN ANSWER TO YOU ,T8 OR ME ,BECAUSE HE AS JUDGED THAT THAT MEN MADE QUOTE HE CAN BELIEVE ,BUT NOT THE SCRIPTURES ,FOR HIM SCRIPTURES ARE NOT TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS WRITTEN BUT BY HIS OPINIONS HE MADE UP,
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It seems you run away from the question ,and like to show me more of your miss guided understanding;
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Hi 2Besee,Most of those quotes you quoted seem a bit arbitrary, but his one here I find troubling…
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i am not envy you in any way ,the truth of God flees away from you ,and you do not even feel or see it , but it is your choice ,so if you do not believe in the scriptures ,on this forum their is a section for you as unbeliever ,were anything goes except truth
so i hope you can see the way to go for your best personal interest ,
In this example: a new poster may actually believe that “terraricca” has the power to exclude people from “The Believer's Section”.In America, it is a very serious charge to impersonate a police officer. If Pierre didn't have
these control issues, I'm sure T8 would have made him a Moderator a long time ago.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTerraricca,
No it is not. That is a false statement.
I desired an end to your behavior because it is not Christian, and how do I usually respond to your posts, Terraricca? Do I reply in the same manner that you speak to me? Do other members? How did I finally approach the problem after months of it? First I ignored you for a few days – that only made it worse. Then I approached a Moderator, who asked you to stop being so rude, but you continued, so then I took the moderators advice and reported two of the latest posts, despite there being many more. The moderators continued posting on the forum and seemed to ignore my complaint, and you continued to post your angry posts towards me. So I started this thread in the hope to put a stop to it, hoping for a good outcome for all here – and one where you would finally see, and change. I did it for everybody here, I can handle you Terraricca, but what about others? What about new people? What about new Christians?Quote you should see the tons of scriptures questions that you never answered to me ,because you could not honestly do it with scriptures ,and so find a way to make a complaint about it , why would I find it rude ;I DO FIND IT RUDE WEN PEOPLE DO NOT ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,BUT WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT ,??? I AM LEFT IN THE OPEN ,THIS IS VERY RUDE ,THIS I DO NOT PRACTICE,
That is another false statement. I have answered your questions the best that I could. Just look over the “beginning” thread. If i missed a few posts, I was not aware of that.
Terraricca, perhaps I got too carried away with the tile part. All that I want to see happen is for you to stop talking to people the way that you do.
Ed,
On second thoughts I think that I will just stick to a couple of threads, once l can refocus.No hard feelings to anyone.
Hi 2Besee,
I think I should do a teaching series on the biblical meaning of why Jesus
calls himself the “Alpha & Omega” – do you think the people are ready for it?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (2besee @ June 20 2013,21:15) Ed,
On second thoughts I think that I will just stick to a couple of threads, once l can refocus.No hard feelings to anyone.
Hi 2b,Hang in there brother.
1Cor.2:9 But as it is written, Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him.
Peace brother….
2bee
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Posted: June 17 2013,05:47
Terraricca,Quote the category rules:
“Group Discussions. Discussions among like-minded members only. No opposition. Invited members could be based on belief in a certain doctrine.”
You would only be here to accuse rather than to discuss, Terrarica..correct?
If you are interested, then click on the link provided regarding the epistles.
this would be ok i guess ,take a discussion within a believers group that think alike ,no matter what it is ,
this is why i do not go anymore in that topic because it make me a stranger to what it is discussing there ,
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,19:53) 2B, Are you accusing me of speaking out of both sides of my mouth?
Quote (2besee @ June 20 2013,20:48) Mike, Hi All,
It seems to me and some others that certain behaviors on HN have been tolerated for too long. Some of the things we say to, and about each other are anything but Christian; and some people even downright lie about another. I, for one would like to see this behavior curbed.
I think we sometimes forget that we have non-members reading our posts – some of them maybe on the verge of giving their lives over to God and His Christ. Let's not scare them off with our poor behavior and mean spirited posts.
I'm not talking about the occasional “you're an idiot” stuff……although that is definitely not Christian behavior either. I'm talking about the posts that actually border on hate. I'm talking about people claiming something about another member that isn't even close to being true. This includes twisting someone's words.
This is what I propose: If you have had someone post something hateful or untrue about you or your beliefs, bring it up here in this thread. Paste what was said about you and by whom. That person can either:
1. Defend themselves by explaining and showing proof that what they posted was not a lie or a twisting of your words.
2. Appeal their case to the moderators that the “hateful” thing they said should not be considered “crossing the line” due to the circumstances involved. (A moderator will then decide if a warning block is required or not.)
3. Publicly apologize for the offense directly to you on this thread to avoid a warning block.
4. Ignore your post and automatically receive a warning block from a moderator.
Together, we can make HeavenNet a place where Christians act and post with love and respect for each other, despite the occasional good natured ribbing or sarcasm.
peace and love,
mikeSo, yes!
Hmmm………… Let me highlight a couple of things from that post I made a long time ago, and then compare them to the things I just said to you in the past couple days:
It seems to me and some others that certain behaviors on HN have been tolerated for too long. Some of the things we say to, and about each other are anything but Christian………..
What I said in the ISM thread three days ago:
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2013,20:31) Pierre, Please speak more nicely to the other members. Some folks are complaining about you being too harsh.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2013,18:30) I do NOT agree with the way he sometimes belittles other members in the process of saying those things. I do NOT agree with his sometimes very HARSH way of getting his point across to another member. So far, it seems like I'm saying the same thing.
I'm not talking about the occasional “you're an idiot” stuff……although that is definitely not Christian behavior either.
From yesterday, in this thread:
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,18:31) Also, “being rude” is not against any HN rule that I'm aware of, 2B. That person can either:
1. Defend themselves by explaining and showing proof that what they posted was not a lie or a twisting of your words.
2. Appeal their case to the moderators……….
(A moderator will then decide if a warning block is required or not.)
3. Publicly apologize for the offense…………
From yesterday in this thread:
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,18:49) 2B, the next time Pierre says something like, “you follow man made religions”, ask him to either show proof of such a thing, or retract the statement. Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2013,18:31) Besides, “being rude” is a matter of opinion. Was Jesus “rude” to call the Pharisees whitewashed tombs? Was he “rude” to tell Peter, “Get behind me, Satan” – when his beloved disciple was getting himself tripped up? It seems to me that I've always said the same thing. If someone twists your words, lies about you, or speaks HATEFULLY towards you, call THEM on it first. See if they will either apologize or retract the statement on their own.
If they don't, and you really feel something needs to be done, THEN report the post to the moderators, and THEY will decide whether or not your complaint is warranted. If it is, THEY will then deal with the offender in the way that seems best to THEM.
If someday I come to visit the forum that YOU moderate, I will abide by YOUR rules and YOUR decisions. Please show me and t8 the same courtesy in the forum that WE moderate.
And I also offer some personal advice to you for the future:
When someone has just mugged you, go up to the police officer and POLITELY ask him for his assistance in the matter. Do NOT go up to him with an accusing attitude, saying, “I'm sure that you just saw that guy mug me, but you didn't do anything about it! You are a poor excuse for a cop! Now help me get my money back!”
Because THAT is what you did to me and t8 in this case. You didn't even TRY to approach us through the proper channels, and POLITELY ask for our assistance in this matter. Instead, right from the start you jumped down our throats (mostly mine) and started ACCUSING us of not doing our job right.
Next time, politely ASK for assistance first. THEN, if we don't solve the problem to your liking, you can bitch about it all you want.
After all, EVERYBODY knows that you don't insult the waiter BEFORE he delivers your food to the table.
Now I could be a real ass here, and insist that you SHOW me where I “spoke out of both sides of my mouth”…….. because I surely don't see it. And if you fail to SATISFACTORILY show me such a thing, I could give YOU a tile for talking false smack against me. But I'm not going to do that, 2B…….. beca
use I don't ever want to give out a TRIVIAL tile for someone being frustrated and upset and blowing off some steam.Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2013,19:26) Hi Mike, Our arguments are always about doctrine, nothing is ever personal.
We can fight like dogs, and then go out for tea and crumpets.
Hi Ed,Meant to respond to this the other day, but forgot.
You are correct, my friend. In fact, I personally like every member on this site. I even like jammin. He cracks me up.
I didn't care that much for Martian, and it's well known that I borderline hated JA/Istari/Toby. But other than that, I enjoy everyone here – despite the fact that most of you sometimes make me want to slam my head against a wall.
peace,
mikeMike, I could pick your post to pieces, but I am nit going to do that because enough has been said by me and we have all had our say.
Those members who you “borderline hated”……… I do NOT borderline hate Terraricca – there is no anger as such behind what I am saying.
I am used to people like Terraricca because I have in the past communicated privately with a person who was often like him in many ways, and so his words do not harm me because I know the spirit behind them, where others may not. It is a spirit which you enable and even encourage, IMO…….. And that is not helping him or anybody else. I am speaking from experience, I still care deeply for my friend, but I WISH that I had approached things differently. I wish that I could do it all again.Anyway, let's move on.
If I happen to see a post which Terraricca does which breaks the rules, (whatever they are?), then I will click the report post button and if nothing is done, then I will post the offending post here. I suggest the same to enbody else. If you are upset at a post, click the report post button, and if nothing is done, post it here.Fair enough?
2bee
Quote If I happen to see a post which Terraricca does which breaks the rules, (whatever they are?), then I will click the report post button you understand that this mean that i can do that aswell ,or anybody else ,but I will not do this I will follow Christ recommendation
to ask why you did say this or that ,and what as been send to was it true ,right ,or what I mistaken ,
of cause I you do not answer my request ,three times I will have to bring it to the moderator,
Terraricca, Yes, that goes for anybody including you.
As for what else you said: did I not do that? Yes I did. It has taken me, what, six months to get to this. I have asked you to stop many times Terraricca. Many have.Quote (2besee @ June 22 2013,10:51) Terraricca, Yes, that goes for anybody including you.
As for what else you said: did I not do that? Yes I did. It has taken me, what, six months to get to this. I have asked you to stop many times Terraricca. Many have.
2beeDid I not answered you when you ask me ? Yes I did and I also explain my view ,on scriptures ,
May be you should read it again ,
I still don,t know why you flipped ,but I do now see what you preach ,with your own group that is,so I will leave you say and believe anything you want ,as you requested ,
In another topic I would expect you to talk the truth to the scriptures and or defend your understanding ,there are no exclusive members topics unless it is a debate or request between specific named members,all others are in the general members ,and so for all to be challenge ,
Many also explain the scriptures with opinions,this is silly ,but this is done all over the world ,by men with little real believe and true knowledge,
You may think this is again judging things, but you have to understand ,if I buy a beer for me I assume I will drink it ,so when I see someone buy for himself a beer I also understand that he will drink it,this is not judging ,but common sens logic or conclusion,any way ,no hard feeling,
Terraricca,
Truth its not only scripture, truth is hidden in scripture, and the ultimate truth its love, because that is what God is. It us not your place to tell each person that they have no truth and that it is “only their opinion”, because you could apply that to yourself too.Truth is more than “what you know” – even the demons believe that God is one and tremble.
Obedience, love of God, and love of neighbor, and all else comes into place if you trust in God, not man,
T,
As for that discussion thread, it is not a debate thread and the rules were not mine but were taken from the category rules. There are other places to debate.
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