Spirit nature

[mikeboll64]

The vast MAJORITY of Trinitarians call it a mystery, Kerwin………….. because none of them can explain it to anyone else without sounding like blathering idiots.

They actually REALIZE that they sound like blathering idiots when they try to explain this nonsense.  And after a while, they just get tired of sounding like blathering idiots, and start saying, “I'm not going to even TRY to explain the trinity to you, because it is a mystery that one must be shown by the Holy Spirit.”  

Translation:  “Scripture doesn't actually teach such a thing.  You must just believe for the sake of believing.”  

[mikeboll64]

jammin,

Who exactly created the heavens and the earth? Was it a “nature” that created all things? What do you say?

[abe]

Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,11:38)

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2013,19:57) kerwin, read the bible and stop commenting non sense. talk if your words have sense. Jammin, There are Trinitarians that realize the Trinitarian heresy is irrational and so they call it a mystery.

Hi Kerwin,

Acts17:16 Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.
17Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
18Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoics, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? Others, He seems to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.
19And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof you speak, is?
20For you bring certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.
21(For all the Athenians and strangers who were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
22Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, You men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious.
23For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore you Ignorantly Worship, him declare I unto you.

Unknown=Mystery

Peace brother……….

[kerwin]

Quote (abe @ May 10 2013,06:05)

Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2013,11:38) Quote (jammin @ May 09 2013,19:57) kerwin, read the bible and stop commenting non sense. talk if your words have sense. Jammin, There are Trinitarians that realize the Trinitarian heresy is irrational and so they call it a mystery. Hi Kerwin, Acts17:16   Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. 17Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him. 18Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoics, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? Others, He seems to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. 19And they took him, and brought him unto Areopagus, saying, May we know what this new doctrine, whereof you speak, is? 20For you bring certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean. 21(For all the Athenians and strangers who were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.) 22Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, You men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious. 23For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore you    Ignorantly Worship,     him declare I unto you. Unknown=Mystery Peace brother……….

Abe,

A mystery is unknown but solvable.  The gospel is not irrationality or Paul would not use reason.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:32)

The vast MAJORITY of Trinitarians call it a mystery, Kerwin………….. because none of them can explain it to anyone else without sounding like blathering idiots. They actually REALIZE that they sound like blathering idiots when they try to explain this nonsense.  And after a while, they just get tired of sounding like blathering idiots, and start saying, “I'm not going to even TRY to explain the trinity to you, because it is a mystery that one must be shown by the Holy Spirit.”   Translation:  “Scripture doesn't actually teach such a thing.  You must just believe for the sake of believing.”

those trinitarian are not true christians.

true christians know their God.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:33)

jammin, Who exactly created the heavens and the earth?  Was it a “nature” that created all things?  What do you say?

let the bible answer you
Hebrews 1:8-10

New International Version (NIV)

8 But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a]

10 He also says,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.

the bible said that boy.

i just post the verse here.
if you cant accept that then make your own bible

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2013,09:17)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:33) jammin, Who exactly created the heavens and the earth?  Was it a “nature” that created all things?  What do you say? let the bible answer you Hebrews 1:8-10 New International Version (NIV) 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a] 10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,    and the heavens are the work of your hands. the bible said that boy. i just post the verse here. if you cant accept that then make your own bible

Jammin,

All that reveals is that you do not know how Jews interpret scriptures. I do not think you really care to seek what is true since you don't seem to be searching.

[mikeboll64]

Nor does it answer the question I actually asked, Kerwin.

jammin, here's another one:

When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer?

[GeneBalthrop]

Jammin…………….You believe God was “IN” Jesus you do well, becasue Jesus said He was IN” him, but you problem is your making the God who was “IN” him HIM. Now that is the Trinitarian Lie that you have been suckered into believing. Jesus is a Man he is not a GOd not Now or ever will be a GOD of any kind. For we have ONE God and one Mediator between God and Man “THE MAN” Jesus, the christ. notice it does not say the God Jesus Christ why is that jammin? God was truly “IN” him, but that does not make him the GOd that was “IN” him . IMO

peace and lvoe to you and yours……………………………………………….gene

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2013,15:30)

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2013,09:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:33) jammin, Who exactly created the heavens and the earth?  Was it a “nature” that created all things?  What do you say? let the bible answer you Hebrews 1:8-10 New International Version (NIV) 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a] 10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,    and the heavens are the work of your hands. the bible said that boy. i just post the verse here. if you cant accept that then make your own bible Jammin, All that reveals is that you do not know how Jews interpret scriptures.  I do not think you really care to seek what is true since you don't seem to be searching.

i read in the bible my answers to you boy

but you give me stories just like mike. you both are storytellers

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07)

Nor does it answer the question I actually asked, Kerwin. jammin, here's another one: When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer?

son of a nature?

do you have a common sense boy>?

are you a son of a nature or a man>?

how do you understand that sentence boy?

[jammin]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 13 2013,01:11)

Jammin…………….You believe God was “IN” Jesus you do well, becasue Jesus said He was IN” him, but you problem is your making the God who was “IN” him HIM. Now that is the Trinitarian Lie that you have been suckered into believing. Jesus is a Man he is not a GOd not Now or ever will be a GOD of any kind. For we have ONE God and one Mediator between God and Man “THE MAN” Jesus, the christ. notice it does not say the God Jesus Christ why is that jammin? God was truly “IN” him, but that does not make him the GOd that was “IN” him . IMO peace and lvoe to you and yours……………………………………………….gene

what you are saying is not the whole truth

thomas said to jesus,
MY LORD AND MY GOD>

do you believe that

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:36)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07) When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer? son of a nature? do you have a common sense boy>?

So I take it that you DON'T think Jesus is the Son of “a nature”. Good for you.

Now please answer the second part of the question: What then, DOES “God” refer to when Jesus is called “the Son of God”?

Does it refer to a PERSON? A LIVING BEING? What?

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2013,04:34)

Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2013,15:30) Quote (jammin @ May 10 2013,09:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:33) jammin, Who exactly created the heavens and the earth?  Was it a “nature” that created all things?  What do you say? let the bible answer you Hebrews 1:8-10 New International Version (NIV) 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a] 10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,    and the heavens are the work of your hands. the bible said that boy. i just post the verse here. if you cant accept that then make your own bible Jammin, All that reveals is that you do not know how Jews interpret scriptures.  I do not think you really care to seek what is true since you don't seem to be searching. i read in the bible my answers to you boy but you give me stories just like mike. you both are storytellers

Jammin,

You do not understand the language. If you did then you would understand how Hebrews interprets Scriptures.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,11:00)

Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07) When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer? son of a nature? do you have a common sense boy>? So I take it that you DON'T think Jesus is the Son of “a nature”.  Good for you. Now please answer the second part of the question:  What then, DOES “God” refer to when Jesus is called “the Son of God”? Does it refer to a PERSON?  A LIVING BEING?  What?

are you a son of man?
yes or no?>

are you man by nature? yes or no>
or you want
are you man?
yes or no>

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ May 13 2013,13:08)

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2013,04:34) Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2013,15:30) Quote (jammin @ May 10 2013,09:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:33) jammin, Who exactly created the heavens and the earth?  Was it a “nature” that created all things?  What do you say? let the bible answer you Hebrews 1:8-10 New International Version (NIV) 8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;    a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;    therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions    by anointing you with the oil of joy.”[a] 10 He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,    and the heavens are the work of your hands. the bible said that boy. i just post the verse here. if you cant accept that then make your own bible Jammin, All that reveals is that you do not know how Jews interpret scriptures.  I do not think you really care to seek what is true since you don't seem to be searching. i read in the bible my answers to you boy but you give me stories just like mike. you both are storytellers Jammin, You do not understand the language.  If you did then you would understand how Hebrews interprets Scriptures.

really?

you do understand the bible even if you cant read your imagination/doctrine in the bible.

good for you.
that is what you call a true gospel. a gospel that cant be read in the bible

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,20:28)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,11:00) Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07) When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer? son of a nature? do you have a common sense boy>? So I take it that you DON'T think Jesus is the Son of “a nature”.  Good for you. Now please answer the second part of the question:  What then, DOES “God” refer to when Jesus is called “the Son of God”? Does it refer to a PERSON?  A LIVING BEING?  What? are you a son of man?

Please answer the question, jammin. Until you do, I have nothing more to say to you on this thread.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2013,13:32)

Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,20:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2013,11:00) Quote (jammin @ May 12 2013,16:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2013,12:07) When Jesus is called “the Son of God”, does the word “God” refer to a “nature”?  If not, then to what DOES it refer? son of a nature? do you have a common sense boy>? So I take it that you DON'T think Jesus is the Son of “a nature”.  Good for you. Now please answer the second part of the question:  What then, DOES “God” refer to when Jesus is called “the Son of God”? Does it refer to a PERSON?  A LIVING BEING?  What? are you a son of man? Please answer the question, jammin.  Until you do, I have nothing more to say to you on this thread.

Christ is the son of GOD (father)

just like his father, he is God

he is GOD THE ONLY SON.

now answer mine,
are you a son of man?if yes, are not you a man?
yes or no?

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2013,08:30)

really? you do understand the bible even if you cant read your imagination/doctrine in the bible. good for you. that is what you call a true gospel. a gospel that cant be read in the bible

Jammin,

It can be understood by those that being led by the Spirit seek to understand the language of Scripture, even when its words are in their own tongue.   It just requires a different viewpoint than is common to humanity.

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2013,05:01)

Quote (jammin @ May 13 2013,08:30) really? you do understand the bible even if you cant read your imagination/doctrine in the bible. good for you. that is what you call a true gospel. a gospel that cant be read in the bible Jammin, It can be understood by those that being led by the Spirit seek to understand the language of Scripture, even when its words are in their own tongue.   It just requires a different viewpoint than is common to humanity.

yah right.
those people being led by the spirit of the devil.
unfortunately, you are one of them.

you like stories and not scriptures.
you like doctrine that is not WRITTEN

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