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- January 27, 2016 at 2:09 pm#807962Ed JParticipant
Pierre’s correction…
“Wherefore by their
fruits(doctrinal beliefs) ye shall know them.” (Matt 7:20)January 27, 2016 at 4:17 pm#807979terrariccaParticipantEdj
Hi Pierre,
So your understanding is one road and Nick’s understanding is the other road ???
You’re funny
Pierre’s correction…“Wherefore by their fruits (doctrinal beliefs) ye shall know them.” (Matt 7:20)
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what’s funny is that your comment is a useless one ;if you are right then show me in scriptures that one of my questions or road are wrong for you are really confirm what I said with that scriptures just because i use other words it does not make view wrong ;if so show meroad/trail/walk as Jesus did/obey him (Jesus)/listen to the message/ ect……………………………..
January 27, 2016 at 4:45 pm#807982kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
1 Timothy 2:5-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
This passage teaches us Jesus is the human being that serves as mediator between God and humanity and he is to one that sacrificed his mortal life to redeem all. This will be testified in due time.
You do not believe Jesus being while he is in heaven.
January 27, 2016 at 5:02 pm#807984terrariccaParticipantkerwin
you really are in need of bible study ,
Jesus was sent down from heaven to cloth himself with flesh ,and so came to be looking has a man ,
when Jesus had finished what his father who had sent him and give him to do he went back up to where he was before he came down to become in the flesh (read the gospel of John)
January 27, 2016 at 6:10 pm#807985NickHassanParticipantHi t,
Jesus was in heaven?
Can men live in heaven?
January 27, 2016 at 6:15 pm#807987NickHassanParticipantHi t,
So in your view a GOD came down from heaven and dressed in flesh and then dropped it to go back to heaven.
So he was not conceived as scripture testifies?
A popular fairy tale.
January 27, 2016 at 11:16 pm#808003Danny DabbsParticipantHi Nick,
Ok, thank you.
Danny
January 28, 2016 at 12:23 am#808009Danny DabbsParticipantHi NH,
Jesus the anointed one has come in the flesh! 1 John 4:2
I think this is a clear reference to the preexistence of Jesus the anointed one who has come in the flesh.
What do you think? Peace!
Danny
January 28, 2016 at 6:18 am#808023GeneBalthropParticipantDanny Dabbs. …INDEED Jesus was the “anointed” one who came in the flesh, he was the prophesied MESSIAH OR HUMAN ANOINTED ONE FROM HUMANITY, WHO WAS A “FLESH” BORN HUMAN BEING whose actual Father was God himself who impreginated MARY supplying his male DNA IN HER WOMB.
Danny any teaching that moves Jesus form our exact human idenity is a false teaching, it is exactly what Satan, wants people to do. Because it destorts what God the Father can do with “ANY” ORDINARY human being, like us. It makes people think Jesus was different and so they can’t “EXACTLY” relate and identify with him on a any real human level. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SATAN WANTS US TO THINK, that is what his DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION does in NEARLY “all” Christendom.
We were warned by the apostles JOHN, AND PAUL, and even JESUS himself about this , remember where Jesus said , “that “MANY” WOULD COME IN HIS NAME, saying ” I AM,”. Saying I am what? a “Prexistant” being, a God, he raised himself from the dead, he was an angel, he was morphed from another existence into a human being, he himself “IS” actually the word of God himself, the very “I AM” himself. And on and on it goes, but then what did Jesus conclude ?
“AND WOULD DECIEVE MANY”.
These LIES ABOUT JESUS was all started by Satan himself, to CAUSE US ALL NOT TO IDENTIFY WITH JESUS ON A PURE HUMAN LEVEL, THE ARE DESIGNED TO SEPERATE US FROM JESUS THE ANOINTED HUMAN BEING. HE WAS AND STILL IS A HUMAN BEING, A SON OF MANKIND, and also a HUMAN SON OF GOD. INFACT THE “ONLY” HUMAN BEING WHO GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF ACTUALLY BEGOT OF ALL HUMANITY,THROUGH A HUMAN BERTH PROCESS. Therefore he is the “ONLY” HUMAN BEGOTTEN BY GOD HIMSELF. BUT STILL A PURE HUMAN BEING EXACTELY AS WE ARE IN EVERY WAY.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
January 28, 2016 at 7:20 am#808025NickHassanParticipantHi DD,
Preexistence of a man is the fallback option for those who do not hear the Spirit speaking through Jesus Christ.
It seems to be the only logical way to align his words.
But it is not true.
January 28, 2016 at 8:39 am#808027GeneBalthropParticipantDANNY DABBS. …..Start to see Jesus as a ordinary human being, just as you are ,and you also can be anointed with that same spirit that Jesus our brother has. Remember where it say, “UNTILL WE ALL COME TO THE MEASURE AND “FULL” STATURE OF “CHRIST” THAT IS TOSAY THE FULL STATURE OF THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD, the same as the “MAN” JESUS DID.
My God help you to understand this brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
January 28, 2016 at 9:09 am#808028NickHassanParticipantHi DD,
There are clear statements in scripture that Jesus is a man. Acts 2.22-23 and 1Tim 2.5.
There are no suggestions in scripture than men pre-exist in heaven.
It is the anointing on the Son of Man that gave him his supernatural powers.
Take care not to deny the Holy Spirit
January 28, 2016 at 9:14 am#808029terrariccaParticipantNick
Hi t,
So in your view a GOD came down from heaven and dressed in flesh and then dropped it to go back to heaven.
So he was not conceived as scripture testifies?
A popular fairy tale.
yeah ,you got it ;
Phil 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Phil 2:11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’
and yes Jesus as to be covered by flesh through a women to fulfilling the scriptures and so did and was conceived but his mother was only a surrogate mother to him
January 28, 2016 at 9:22 am#808032NickHassanParticipantHi T,
He said she was his mother but you can argue with him.
Hear the Spirit.
January 28, 2016 at 9:26 am#808033NickHassanParticipantHi T,
The Word was God.
The Word was made flesh in a man.
January 28, 2016 at 9:30 am#808034NickHassanParticipantHi T,
God does not make it easy to understand.
Traps for the unwary to add their ideas.
January 28, 2016 at 9:35 am#808036terrariccaParticipantNick
yeah you fall down again ,scriptures are there read them ,those I showed you are only a few ,but you know all that
so it is your choice
January 28, 2016 at 9:35 am#808037terrariccaParticipantNick
yeah you fall down again ,scriptures are there read them ,those I showed you are only a few ,but you know all that
so it is your choice
January 28, 2016 at 9:47 am#808040NickHassanParticipantHi t,
You offer yourself as a leader of men but you only see in one dimension.
Scripture is spiritual.
January 28, 2016 at 11:21 am#808048kerwinParticipantTerrarica,
Phil 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,….Anyone with the attitude of Christ exists in the very nature of God. Adam and Eve were both created with that attitude as we are taught in the 1 chapter of Genesis.
Because they had that attitude they did not seek to be equal to God but instead emptied themselves of pride and took on the form of servants. Like Jesus they were made in the likeness of humanity.
After their fall they became ashamed as they had abandoned their robes of righteousness. In their shame and Spiritual ignorance they put on physical clothes to replace which was Spiritual.
As Nick points out you are seeing the physical when context is Spiritual.
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