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GB,
Do we need these additional concepts to read scripture your way?
The way of simplicity is better[2Cor11]David ……….do you want me to find Historical facts about the pagan teachings rebirth of divine beings for you , i thought you as a JW would already know that by now. But if you want i can begin a search where I read about it .
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Hi,
Satan is said to have a seat.Revelation 2:13
I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.His dominion is only through his minions and cannot have the unity that God's Spirit gives His church.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 27 2009,04:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 26 2009,13:08) GB,
No Job found humility after Satan's testing produced hidden pride.
Nick…….Scripture says it was GOd who brought all this on Job, God was the originator and finisher of the work on Job, not some spook. Satan is Just a Adjective for adversarial spirit and is not a person, but a state of evil and is part of God intellect and God uses to to balance out life, because life is a state of GOOD and EVIL. And God uses evil when needed as well as good. Wisdom is the balance of these to forces or SPIRITS (INTELLECTS). The Evil part of God intellect was used to teach Job what he needed. It had nothing to do with a bet between God and the Devil as some presume. One of the Spirits (intellects) of God is the knowledge of Evil and another is the Knowledge of GOOD. The balance of these is what gives him His Wisdom. IMOlove and peace to you…………………….gene
G,
You said this in another thread.
“Satan is the one who tries to appear as a angle of light and accuses the brethren before God day and night, who placed you as the Judge of anything,”Great you have realised the reality of Satan.
Nick……….Satan's seat is in the heart of Idolatry. Because this creates unreal GOD”S an is seated in the minds of those who do such things, And is an adversary to the one and only true GOD. Satan can find a seat in anyone Heart and must be Mastered as Jesus did. Resist the devil, and he shall flee from (YOU), that applies to all of us. So Satan can be in all of us and we must overcome Him as Jesus did when He was tempted in the wilderness. Jesus resisted Him and He fled from Him. We need to ask ourselves where is he seated at ,is it in the air as a being of some kind , or is it in our own heart and minds, and this is what we must master. If we master it at the door of our own hearts, then His kingdom will fall even as it fell in Christ Jesus' life. IMO
love and peace to you and yours……………………..gene
G,
Satan has a place called his seat as you point out.
Satan rules men by sin in the flesh.
We must be overcomers.Nick…………..I agree, the adversarial nature is in all of us and we Must overcome it brother. We must master it as GOD told Cain, it at the door of all our hearts. But thanks be to God we will master it, the same way Jesus did, and then ONLY ONE WILL will be done. May God grant us all the power of that victory.
love and peace to you and yours………………………….gene
G,
That sin which lives in us is under the control of king SatanLuke 11:18
If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.Nick….I said that Pergamon was the place where they manufactured Idols , i think that was not Pergamon, they were know for their a type of writing vellum from skins , But they had a large temple and Altar of Zeus which they all worshiped as GOD , Antipas would not worship it and was Himself thrown into a Large Kettle of copper and burned to death, as legions goes. I have just read some about it on the web.
peace and love……………………………..gene
Nick……..I didn't say that, GOD said it through Jesus. Satan's seat is in the heart of Idolatry brother. You keep wanting to see Satan as a Person, instead of the Spirit of Evil operating in people. “for you adversary (Satan) or Devil, goes around like a roaring Lion seeing who He may devour”. Sin is an adversary and will devour and destory us. Thats the Satan that devours. And it lies at everyone DOOR (heart) and must be mastered, as GOD told Cain. IMO
peace and love………………………….gene
Nick……we should rely on what the Spirit of GOD, teaches us brother, I will not be against the scriptures though. IMO
love and peace to you and yours………………………………….gene
Nick………Some have greater understand of Spiritual things then others, there are babes and there are some midway, and there are some more advanced, we are all at different levels and therefore our understandings will vary, but as we progress we will all become more in aline. so we need to be more patient with all. IMO
love and peace to you and yours……………………………….gene
Nick……….I would reply to you to pray and ask God to give you the Spiritual incite to see Who are the real satins and devils in this world and you will see its not some spook going around jumping in and out of People , it the People who are practicing evil who themselves are the Satan's and devils as Jesus the word of God, Jodi and I have both Said. When Jesus told Peter to get behind me SATAN he was not kidding Peter was a SATAN at the time of his life. You must learn to see thing through the Spirit Nick, Not through the Physical only.
peace………………………gene
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