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Quote (theodorej @ May 14 2008,23:57) Greetings Broncs….Let us not forget….We can not agree as to whether Jesus would know when the end is…but in same breath we acknoledge the scriblings of an ancient trib of canabals that sacraficed their own young on an alter before a hideous sun God….For all we know the Myans could be a monumental fraud with respect to their technology….Let us not forget the Conquistador with spears and bows and arrows conquered their decendents in the early centuries…
We have to consider a Satan derived plot here as some beleive.On one hand I feel much advanced thought has been lost through the centuries of many great “thinking” persons or civilizations. Yes, I shake my head at the reported bloodthirsty actions the Mayans practiced as religion…. truly horrible. They did, however, perhaps through Satanic promises and guidance, came to posses the knowledge they possibly had. As to the significance of this knowledge… who knows.
And again, the Spanish use of killing and looting of humans in the conquest for land and riches, or “Greed” all the while disgustingly parading it off as “Christianity” and for God with Faith in Jesus Christ. Deplorable and certainly God will exact his punishment on them.
Quote (Broncs453 @ May 14 2008,17:08) Quote (Not3in1 @ May 14 2008,16:09) Bronc,
I'm facinated – what changes will happen in 2012 as a result of this pull?Also, the bible didn't say there would be a future time that Jesus would know the time of his coming. You are adding this part to the story to help your mind along in believing it could be true. And who the heck reallly knows, bro, you could be right-O!
There are a number of websites that have very detailed information if you Google 2012. Also several different independent sources all arrive at the same time – 2012. The Mayan calendar, the Chinese I-Ching and others. There is a diagram of where the sun and earth will be relative to each other and the Milky Way at that time on one of those sites.Massive gravitational pulls could cause catastrophic changes and completely transform the earth, changing the shape of land masses, locations of oceans, and generally re-arrange the whole planet. I have heard that the North and South poles may become the new Equator and vice versa. It will be the greatest astronomical force ever exerted on the earth by far.
Some of those sites have very detailed info and know much more than I about it. Suffice it to say if this is indeed the kind of event that it is being projected to be, the most significant event I can envision occurring at the same time would be the Second Coming. IMHO.
Peace,
I think the single largest impact, of foreseable mass distorions of orbit would come from the Moon. Over the last few milling years the Moon has been moving away form the earth at a rate of app. 3.8cm/yr. It is acknowledged in the scientific comunity that changes in the moons orbit have made many dramatic changes to ocean locations. The Sahara dessert for example was once a living ocean, now a barron desert.Oh the power of God Almighty, Creator or Heavens and Earth!
Hi everyone,
I am unconvinced that RW and his wife are the two witnesses. With that being said, I however personally would not be surprised if the end was soon. I at least feel that there is a good possibility that there could be an end to our country and its prosperity as we know it. This nation has been richly blessed with knowledge. It is quite amazing to see the technology that has advanced within the past 100 years and even more so in the past fifty and even now more so in the last ten. Even though we have received so many blessings, Americans are growing increasingly wicked, and our nation is raising a next generation of vain self seekers whom have a totally lack of work ethic, respect, and empathy for others. Cable television shows just how nasty our culture is becoming. I would not be the least bit surprised if God gives us a swift kick in the pants.
Several people have brought up the fact that there have always been wars, and famines and natural disasters. As well, we all know that man has always been sinful. I believe however that sin and some of it's consequences have grown in astronomical proportions not just within governments and authorites, but within the heart of individuals. The well being of so many Americans is in a very fragile state. Things such as internet pornography is ramped in men, and depression has a major hold on men, woman and even our youth. Of course turning to God and changing ones lifestyle can't help, but a pill will.
The worse sign is that our culture is not only accepting sinful behavior, it is fully embracing it, as if it were cool. Like I mentioned previously, this can readily be seen on cable television.
I do believe that it is quite possible that this country could soon be in a world of hurt, of which the majority of people are not prepared for, which no doubt will make things all the more worse.
I think we all know it is not a matter of 'if', but when! I pray that it comes, let's get it over with. Praise and Honor to the Will of YHWH.
I don't know if many of you are following what is going on in Myanmar, but it is truly a tragedy. The ruling military regime in that country is indeed a powerful adversary. Personally I would like to take my pink AK 47 my husband custom built for me and blow those bastards away. What they have been doing to their own people is just unimaginable.
Quote (seek and you will find @ May 14 2008,20:08) The only thing that I know is that Israel became a Nation again in 1948 and this Generation will not pass away till all will be fulfilled. The Bible tells us that a Generation is 70 years. So that takes us to 2018.
Peace and Love Mrs.
So, “the Bible tells us that a Generation is 70 years” does it? Really? Where exactly? Please quote scripture where this is found.Don't believe you.
A “generation” can be interpreted as anywhere from 33 years to 100 years or more. I believe that it is 60 years because that is a long-term business cycle exhibited by several different markets.
That puts us to 2012.
Peace,
Quote (gtfoxy @ May 15 2008,06:19) Quote (Broncs453 @ May 14 2008,17:08) Quote (Not3in1 @ May 14 2008,16:09) Bronc,
I'm facinated – what changes will happen in 2012 as a result of this pull?Also, the bible didn't say there would be a future time that Jesus would know the time of his coming. You are adding this part to the story to help your mind along in believing it could be true. And who the heck reallly knows, bro, you could be right-O!
There are a number of websites that have very detailed information if you Google 2012. Also several different independent sources all arrive at the same time – 2012. The Mayan calendar, the Chinese I-Ching and others. There is a diagram of where the sun and earth will be relative to each other and the Milky Way at that time on one of those sites.Massive gravitational pulls could cause catastrophic changes and completely transform the earth, changing the shape of land masses, locations of oceans, and generally re-arrange the whole planet. I have heard that the North and South poles may become the new Equator and vice versa. It will be the greatest astronomical force ever exerted on the earth by far.
Some of those sites have very detailed info and know much more than I about it. Suffice it to say if this is indeed the kind of event that it is being projected to be, the most significant event I can envision occurring at the same time would be the Second Coming. IMHO.
Peace,
I think the single largest impact, of foreseable mass distorions of orbit would come from the Moon. Over the last few milling years the Moon has been moving away form the earth at a rate of app. 3.8cm/yr. It is acknowledged in the scientific comunity that changes in the moons orbit have made many dramatic changes to ocean locations. The Sahara dessert for example was once a living ocean, now a barron desert.Oh the power of God Almighty, Creator or Heavens and Earth!
The moon may play an important role. Without it, the earth would be wobbly and unable to maintain steady rotation. Centrifical force etc. Take it out of the picture and who knows what might happen.Peace,
Quote (theodorej @ May 14 2008,23:57) Greetings Broncs….Let us not forget….We can not agree as to whether Jesus would know when the end is…but in same breath we acknoledge the scriblings of an ancient trib of canabals that sacraficed their own young on an alter before a hideous sun God….For all we know the Myans could be a monumental fraud with respect to their technology….Let us not forget the Conquistador with spears and bows and arrows conquered their decendents in the early centuries…
Tim –How much do you know about the Mayans? They did worship the sun, which has to do with the fact that they were expert timekeepers. Modern day scholars have said they were mathematical geniuses, far advanced for their time.
Have you even seen or studied a Mayan Calendar? I have. Whatever their primitive customs, rituals, or whatever were, are irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that they were around for 1,000 years and they were expert mathematicians. Their work has been analyzed and their ancient calculations have been proven by scientists to be correct. There is no basis for “fraud” here.
If there is, please direct me to where this information can be found.
Peace,
Quote (Jodi @ May 15 2008,06:41) Hi everyone, I am unconvinced that RW and his wife are the two witnesses. With that being said, I however personally would not be surprised if the end was soon. I at least feel that there is a good possibility that there could be an end to our country and its prosperity as we know it. This nation has been richly blessed with knowledge. It is quite amazing to see the technology that has advanced within the past 100 years and even more so in the past fifty and even now more so in the last ten. Even though we have received so many blessings, Americans are growing increasingly wicked, and our nation is raising a next generation of vain self seekers whom have a totally lack of work ethic, respect, and empathy for others. Cable television shows just how nasty our culture is becoming. I would not be the least bit surprised if God gives us a swift kick in the pants.
Several people have brought up the fact that there have always been wars, and famines and natural disasters. As well, we all know that man has always been sinful. I believe however that sin and some of it's consequences have grown in astronomical proportions not just within governments and authorites, but within the heart of individuals. The well being of so many Americans is in a very fragile state. Things such as internet pornography is ramped in men, and depression has a major hold on men, woman and even our youth. Of course turning to God and changing ones lifestyle can't help, but a pill will.
The worse sign is that our culture is not only accepting sinful behavior, it is fully embracing it, as if it were cool. Like I mentioned previously, this can readily be seen on cable television.
I do believe that it is quite possible that this country could soon be in a world of hurt, of which the majority of people are not prepared for, which no doubt will make things all the more worse.
I think we all know it is not a matter of 'if', but when! I pray that it comes, let's get it over with. Praise and Honor to the Will of YHWH.
I don't know if many of you are following what is going on in Myanmar, but it is truly a tragedy. The ruling military regime in that country is indeed a powerful adversary. Personally I would like to take my pink AK 47 my husband custom built for me and blow those bastards away. What they have been doing to their own people is just unimaginable.
Greetings Jodi,I agree with you on most everything. I am still not 100% convinced that RW and his wife are the 2 witnesses. He is either a complete lunatic and really needs to check his meds, or he may be correct. That said, those on here seem to think I and others just “follow the man”, like we have drunk the Kool-Aid and can't think for ourselves. Sorry, that's not me. I have my own feelings for the future that continue to be molded by things I learn and experience.
I personally believe that the US govt is a Zionist organization that not only wants to destroy the middle class, but bring about the destruction of the US and a new one world govt. It has been a goal of theirs for a long time, starting with the formation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. The REAL control of this country lies in the hands of a few elite banking families.
Bin Laden, Bush (and Clinton) families go way back, Bin Ladens have been Bush's business partners. He's the convenient tool they used to distract people while they systematically looted our financial system, and give them a reason to attack Iraq. War is BIG BUSINESS. For the oil companies, for the defense companies, for all interests of the politicians. We have now spent $700 BILLION on the Iraq War. Most of it going to line these people's pockets. They couldn't care less how many of the “peasants” lives they have to sacrifice to get what they want. It's all an act.
McShame, Obamamama and Hitlery are all the same. It's all a grand illusion to make you think you really have a say in who's going to be elected. Amerika the free! LOL
High gas prices will soon cause a halt to the delivery of food and supplies, which will eventually lead to rioting and GWB to declare martial law. Don't think it can't happen in this country. Are you prepared for if and when it does? If you have people most worried about food and shelter, the last thing they're thinking about is being taken over by a foreign government.
My prediction: This summer will bring mayhem and an escalation of natural disasters etc that are happening right now. In 2009? I'll be right here, provided I haven't been blown to bits before then.
Peace,
Quote (Broncs453 @ May 15 2008,08:08) Quote (theodorej @ May 14 2008,23:57) Greetings Broncs….Let us not forget….We can not agree as to whether Jesus would know when the end is…but in same breath we acknoledge the scriblings of an ancient trib of canabals that sacraficed their own young on an alter before a hideous sun God….For all we know the Myans could be a monumental fraud with respect to their technology….Let us not forget the Conquistador with spears and bows and arrows conquered their decendents in the early centuries…
Tim –How much do you know about the Mayans? They did worship the sun, which has to do with the fact that they were expert timekeepers. Modern day scholars have said they were mathematical geniuses, far advanced for their time.
Have you even seen or studied a Mayan Calendar? I have. Whatever their primitive customs, rituals, or whatever were, are irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that they were around for 1,000 years and they were expert mathematicians. Their work has been analyzed and their ancient calculations have been proven by scientists to be correct. There is no basis for “fraud” here.
If there is, please direct me to where this information can be found.
Peace,
Don't know why you are asking me this.
I never mentioned Mayans.But I have seen the Mayan calendar. And I do know that it ceases in the year 2012. Don't know why though.
Tim
Jodi and Bronc,
Come on you guys, you're depressing the hell out of me! Didn't I tell you all I just turned 40? Have some mercy, huh?
MandyQuote (Jodi @ May 15 2008,06:41) Personally I would like to take my pink AK 47 my husband custom built for me and blow those bastards away.
We have a semi-automatic 45 that we call, “Sally”.One night when my husband was away on business, I thought someone was trying to get in through the downstairs window. I grabbed Sally (which takes some doing because she is locked up under combination and key). I didn't realize how heavy that gun was until I walked around the house with it in my hand – cocked and ready to blast!
I was scared out of my mind.
It turned out to be a family of coons looking for a late-night snack.
Mandy! It is a fact that this generation will not pass away and all will be fulfilled. When Israel became a Nation again in 1948 add 70 years to it, since a generation according to the Bible is 70 years. That brings us to 2018. You know what rather then constantly debating about this and that we should all pray together. We will never agree on all, but the main thing we do all believe in Jesus Christ that He came in the flesh and was crucified and He was resurrected and sits at the right hand of our Heavenly Father. I think we all agree on that.
That reminds me when my Husband used to work at nights and the kids were small, I slept with a riffle next to me in Bed.
One night I heard a noise downstairs, and I was so scared that I called my neighbor. He and I took the riffle and we went downstairs. Our Garage was next to the Basement and George had leftover wood staked on the ceiling in the Garage. You guessed it, all came down, no animal or Human.
I am not new to fear, I lived with it at a very young age. Running for our lives every day was something I would not want to go through again. I hope that God will have mercy on me and takes me Home before all hell brakes loose here. America will be punished this time. All this is prophecy that has been predicted a long time ago, not by Mr. Weinland, He just repeated it. And made Himself one of the Witnesses, that I do not belief. But time will tell, my friend told me. In any event a Nuke will go fast. Seen-ch and away we go. I know Mandy I am so full of it. Have been feeling rather negative lately do to all the debate and I have told myself no more. That is why I started the Positive Tread, but it so hard to type so much. I can always tell when somebody prays for me, somebody did today and I feel much better this afternoon. Thanks to all and mostly thanks to God.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (TimothyVI @ May 15 2008,09:08) Quote (Broncs453 @ May 15 2008,08:08) Quote (theodorej @ May 14 2008,23:57) Greetings Broncs….Let us not forget….We can not agree as to whether Jesus would know when the end is…but in same breath we acknoledge the scriblings of an ancient trib of canabals that sacraficed their own young on an alter before a hideous sun God….For all we know the Myans could be a monumental fraud with respect to their technology….Let us not forget the Conquistador with spears and bows and arrows conquered their decendents in the early centuries…
Tim –How much do you know about the Mayans? They did worship the sun, which has to do with the fact that they were expert timekeepers. Modern day scholars have said they were mathematical geniuses, far advanced for their time.
Have you even seen or studied a Mayan Calendar? I have. Whatever their primitive customs, rituals, or whatever were, are irrelevant to this discussion. The point is that they were around for 1,000 years and they were expert mathematicians. Their work has been analyzed and their ancient calculations have been proven by scientists to be correct. There is no basis for “fraud” here.
If there is, please direct me to where this information can be found.
Peace,
Don't know why you are asking me this.
I never mentioned Mayans.But I have seen the Mayan calendar. And I do know that it ceases in the year 2012. Don't know why though.
Tim
I'm sorry Tim my bad. I meant to say to theodorej, as he was the one who commented on the Mayans.The Mayan calendar ends in 2012 because that is supposedly the “beginning of a new age”. The Chinese I-Ching, written 5,000 years ago, also ends in 2012. The earth will experience a polar/axis shift at the end of that year that could completely transform it.
Peace,
Quote (seek and you will find @ May 15 2008,03:08) thedorej Who is Angela Merkel? If She was a child like my Husband and I was at the time, we had nothing to do with it, and find it ridiculous to apologise. And did you know that Hitler had sick people on the list to be gased also. My Grandmother was on that list and my Mother had to sign a paper never to have anymore children. I also think if Hitler would have made it, I would not be alive today, I have C.O.P.D. We have been called Nazi's before and have been looked down on just because we were born in Germany. I have every sympathy for the People in Israel and any kind of remarks against any person is wrong.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Greetings Mrs….Angela Merkel is the chancellor of Germany..Mrs….The reason I wanted to bring this event to you and your husbands attention is….It is my feeling ,this event has some profhetic significants…..I was not even alive during world war 2 but it is one of my favorite topics of modern history….Iam 60
Greetings Broncs…..The proof that speaks to the level of advancement of Mayan culture for the most part enjoys the aceptance as a concensus among archiologists and historians….of which Iam neither….and to answer your question….yes, I have seen the calendar and yes, I have studied the culture…What Iam not able to do, is to hold any of their contributions in high esteem….Because of the barbaric nature of their culture…..I would think that God will control any cosmic activity that would result in the destruction of HIS creation….In closing…I hardly think that almighty confided in Mayans…
Quote (Not3in1 @ May 15 2008,09:25) Quote (Jodi @ May 15 2008,06:41) Personally I would like to take my pink AK 47 my husband custom built for me and blow those bastards away.
We have a semi-automatic 45 that we call, “Sally”.One night when my husband was away on business, I thought someone was trying to get in through the downstairs window. I grabbed Sally (which takes some doing because she is locked up under combination and key). I didn't realize how heavy that gun was until I walked around the house with it in my hand – cocked and ready to blast!
I was scared out of my mind.
It turned out to be a family of coons looking for a late-night snack.
Mandy…..Sally may not be for you….Fire Arms are like clothes….They have to fit you…to be used effectivly…May I suggest a mini 14 or a rugar 2210Quote (gtfoxy @ May 15 2008,05:58) Quote (theodorej @ May 14 2008,23:48) Quote (seek and you will find @ May 14 2008,20:08) The only thing that I know is that Israel became a Nation again in 1948 and this Gewneration will not pass awy till all will be fulfilled. The Bible tells us that a Generation is 70 years. So that takes us to 2018.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Greetings Mrs……Did you know that Angela Merkel was in Israel on 3/18/08….She addressed the Israeli Knesset and apologized for the atrocities of the Holacaust and then placed a wreath in Vad Vashem ( Holacaust Memorial )….In her speech she voiced support for Israel….See it on YouTube it is in German….Notice the Pope was in the US….that got media coverage…No apologies from the Pope or even recognition of this courageous Women…
Is this a direct acknowledgement or a sarcastic refrain directed at the “king of the North” scenario spoken of by David?Not entirely sure of your intended direction of this statement… want to clarify.
Greetings Foxy…..This could open the door for a Euro Military force in the Holy Land….It is apparant that the US support for Israel is being questioned at home and as result Israels'enemies are becoming emboldened..Quote (theodorej @ May 15 2008,11:13) llor Quote (seek and you will find @ May 15 2008,03:08) thedorej Who is Angela Merkel? If She was a child like my Husband and I was at the time, we had nothing to do with it, and find it ridiculous to apologise. And did you know that Hitler had sick people on the list to be gased also. My Grandmother was on that list and my Mother had to sign a paper never to have anymore children. I also think if Hitler would have made it, I would not be alive today, I have C.O.P.D. We have been called Nazi's before and have been looked down on just because we were born in Germany. I have every sympathy for the People in Israel and any kind of remarks against any person is wrong.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Greetings Mrs….Angela Merkel is the chancellor of Germany..
I really have to laugh we as Germans don't know who the Chancellor of our former Country is. I really don't care. Neither is my Cousin who lives in Germany. He thinks very little of those in power.
Peace and Love Mrs.Quote (theodorej @ May 15 2008,11:59) Quote (Not3in1 @ May 15 2008,09:25) Quote (Jodi @ May 15 2008,06:41) Personally I would like to take my pink AK 47 my husband custom built for me and blow those bastards away.
We have a semi-automatic 45 that we call, “Sally”.One night when my husband was away on business, I thought someone was trying to get in through the downstairs window. I grabbed Sally (which takes some doing because she is locked up under combination and key). I didn't realize how heavy that gun was until I walked around the house with it in my hand – cocked and ready to blast!
I was scared out of my mind.
It turned out to be a family of coons looking for a late-night snack.
Mandy…..Sally may not be for you….Fire Arms are like clothes….They have to fit you…to be used effectivly…May I suggest a mini 14 or a rugar 2210
I agree! My husband said that if I ever had to truly fire that gun that it would knock me on my butt. And what good would that do? So, I guess I need to get “fitted' for one. I'd love someone to take me to a range and learn to shoot it.The only time I could ever pull the trigger would be if someone was trying to kill my children. I don't know what situation would cause me to ever use it? I hope I never have to know.
theodorej 60 years old, is not young. My Husband is going to be 71 in August and I am going to be 70 in July. So you were born about 6 years before we came to America. Its a lifetime ago. The last time I say my Hometown was in 1987. There are some beautiful pictures on the Internet from Germany, and our Hometown too. Sorry to rattle on about this.
Peace and Love Mrs.
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